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1) They can provide no scripture that prophesies the rebuilding of the Temple prior to the Second Coming of the Messiah. Also, they can provide no scripture that says Jerusalem will be destroyed in the End Times. (Damaged, yes; destroyed, no.)  Daniel 9:24-27 makes no mention at all of “end times,” “latter days,” or any similar term that unequivocally points to the seven events being fulfilled in OUR Latter Days.

 

If I take the Word of God seriously, then I know a temple is required for the man of sin to declare himself god in. The abomination of desolation, as defined by Daniel's vision of Antiochus IV to which Yeshua points, requires a temple within which to place an idol and make it desolate. Whether that is one carved with stone or a man demanding worship. It is also implied if there are daily sacrifices happening in the context of Israel and Jerusalem, that some sort of temple or tabernacle is in place.

 

Daniel 12:11

And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

 

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

 

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

Revelation 11:1-2

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months.

 

Matthew 24:15, 29-31

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) ... Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

So we see a temple that is measured, therefore physical in nature while also tied to a 42 month period of time. It is tied to the abomination of desolation and the stopping of the daily sacrifice, which is pivotal in defining the start of the 42 month reign of the antichrist according to scripture, and comes before the return of Christ to gather His elect to Himself. Now one can symbolize this away as many have. For some, only the Jews rebuilding the temple will convince them, and for some not even that I suppose. We will have to wait and see. I will adjust as needed.

 

Regarding the destruction of Jerusalem, given that is the seat of the man of sin during his 42 month reign, it is not destroyed until the end of the week and the end of God's wrath. The destruction in verse 26b is referring to 70 AD however.

 

Revelation 17:2, 4b, 6

With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. ... having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: ... And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

 

Revelation 14:8

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

 

Revelation 18:2-3

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

 

Revelation 18:24

And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

We’ve seen how this whore was arrayed, the world commits fornication with her, and that fornication is tied to dragon’s wrath and the blood of the saints. The final piece that defines this woman riding the beast comes in her definition as that great city that rules over the kings of the earth, the center of power of the kingdom of the dragon and his man of sin and false prophet.

 

Revelation 17:5

And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

 

Revelation 17:18

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

 

Revelation 11:7-8

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

 

Luke 13:33-34

Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the [day] following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen [doth gather] her brood under [her] wings, and ye would not!

 

This woman is identified with a great city and nicknamed mystery Babylon, but John also calls this great city spiritually Sodom, Egypt, and where Yeshua was crucified. It is Jerusalem that kills all the prophets and stones those who are sent to her and Yeshua made a point of returning there to fulfill God’s plan of redemption from Jerusalem so that it would be in Jerusalem that His blood was spilled for all mankind. Therefore, mystery Babylon is none other than Jerusalem.

 

Revelation 17 and 18 are all about the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters. As we will see we get a lot of great insight about the kingdom of the antichrist from these chapters as well, but the focus is on the judgment of Jerusalem and her inhabitants. At the time her judgment comes, almost 3½ years after the abomination of desolation, it’s hard to believe anyone not part of the beast’s kingdom would remain there, but a warning is given before the destruction.

 

Revelation 16:17-21

And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, [and] so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, [every stone] about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

 

Revelation 18:4-8

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

 

Revelation 17:12-13, 16-17

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. ... And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

 

So Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, which Daniel 9:26 conveys, and it will be destroyed in the wrath of God and by the 10 kings, razing it so Yeshua can build it up in His return to rule for the Messianic Kingdom for 1,000 years.

 

I agree that 'Daniel 9:24-27 makes no mention at all of “end times,” “latter days,”' Examining the whole council of God, I don't require it to in order to see it is meant for the end. I do think that it's possible some of the elements of verse 24 in context of Israel and Jerusalem are yet future such as finishing the transgression, since Israel is still blinded and not right with God, but He will bring her back to Him, those written in the book. I would say sealing up vision and prophecy could be taken several ways. I don't think any new prophecy is required, but that which is already given is not yet fulfilled and will be when Christ takes the kingdoms and reigns on earth.

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2) Daniel 11:40-45 does say that an End Time commander/leader, “the King of the North,” shall enter and occupy the Holy Land. But nothing in that passage speaks anything about a Temple – a notable omission, if one were to actually exist.

 

If you will not take the whole council of God into account then you will miss out on a lot IMO. Take the next verse following 11:45, ignoring the chapter breaks that did not exist originally.

 

Daniel 12:1

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

 

Matthew 24:15-22

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

Mark 13:14-20

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter [therein], to take any thing out of his house: And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. For [in] those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

 

Jeremiah 30:4-7

And these [are] the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah. For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for that day [is] great, so that none [is] like it: it [is] even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

 

Now we have the time just after the lack of mention of a temple in the next chapter, which was not separated by chapters originally, the declaration of the unparalleled time of Jacob's trouble that he will be saved out of. Now if there is a time that is unparalleled in all of history and three different places lay claim to it, they are speaking of the same time. Please note the Olivet discourse related to the future abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet in Daniel 8:9-14 and Daniel 11:31 historically and Daniel 12:11 and Daniel 9:27. Yeshua gave us a foreshadowed fulfillment to understand what the abomination of desolation is and a future one that will be fulfilled by the man of sin just before Christ returns to gather His bride and begin His wrath on the earth.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

Assuming the day of Christ and our gathering to Him has not already come, it is implied when taking the scripture seriously that the revealing of the man of sin will include what Paul considered the temple of God.

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3) Likewise, nothing in that passage says anything about the Sanctuary being overwhelmed and destroyed. And the proponents of “the Antichrist” theory can provide no other scripture that says that either.

 

I'm not sure what passage you mean, 26b you have "“…and people of a leader/commander, the one coming in, he shall cause to destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end shall be with a flood of attackers…" If you mean destruction in the middle of the 7 years, I agree. The temple will be the center of the beast's reign.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

Assuming the day of Christ and our gathering to Him has not already come, it is implied when taking the scripture seriously that the revealing of the man of sin will include what Paul considered the temple of God.

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4) Neither can they provide any secondary scripture that prophesies a 7-year covenant in the End Times, or even mentions any such 7-year event.

 

The only mention of a 7-year covenant is in Daniel 9:27, agreed. This does not preclude it from occurring in the future. There is some mention of an abomination of desolation and 1,260 day, 42 month, 3 1/2 year period, which is 1/2 of seven years. I would agree that these periods that will happen in the future when the dragon and his proxy beast will be given power over the saints only covers one half the time required to be considered a 7-year period. But the other points from scripture are what lead me to place this 7-year period at the end, not some other mention of it tied to the end times. It's the events it speaks of that are clearly referenced elsewhere, many times in Daniel's writings themselves.

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5) Plenty of presumptions are offered that string together two 1260-day prophecies (of which there are a number), which theories purport to prove there is a 7-year period broken exactly in its middle when “the Antichrist” reneges on his covenant. But, like the witnesses that testified against Jesus at his trial, “their testimonies [do] not agree” with each other. Mark 14:56

 

How so?

 

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Also, they can provide no secondary scripture that speaks about blood-sacrifice [זֶבַח] being resumed before the return of the Messiah. Daniel 12:11 does not use this term; 9:27 has its only use in Daniel.

 

The same can be said for several other verses, which we knew Antiochus IV forbade all the sacrifice and oblation.

 

Daniel 11:31

And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

 

Daniel 8:11

Yea, he magnified [himself] even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [sacrifice] was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

 

The daily was the continual sacrifice to be offered evening and morning according to the Law of Moses.

 

Exodus 29:38

Now this [is that] which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually (H8548 - Daily). 39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even: And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an hin of wine [for] a drink offering. And the other lamb thou shalt offer at even, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD. [This shall be] a continual burnt offering throughout your generations [at] the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee. And there I will meet with the children of Israel, and [the tabernacle] shall be sanctified by my glory.

 

In the context of this same chapter, Daniel states his vision began about the time of the evening oblation.

 

Daniel 9:21

Yea, whiles I [was] speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.[H4503]

 

I would say the context from scripture and history is pretty clear that when the "daily" is stopped, it is in references to the sacrifice and oblation that was part of perpetual statutes God gave Israel in the Mosaic Covenant to perform.

 

Regardless, in the larger context of the reason behind the daily sacrifice, it is not the stopping of the daily Yeshua told us to look for, it's the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel in regards to the future revealing of the man of sin. That is in Daniel 9:27 as well. However, it is typically paired with the stopping of the daily sacrifice that was dictated in Exodus 29:38, probably because it would be the most constant aspect of Jewish worship of God that is trying to be stopped.

 

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

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6) They can provide no secondary prophecy about idol worship taking place somewhere on the edges/extremities of a Latter-Day Temple or Sanctuary. (Within such a sanctified place, yes: Matthew 24:15 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4. Outside of such place, no.)

 

Does one need more than these? Perhaps the wing is more literal than a building on the edges of the temple? "And upon/over a wing/corner shall be abominations/idols of a destroyer" Note

 

Exodus 25:17-22

And thou shalt make a mercy seat [of] pure gold: two cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. And thou shalt make two cherubims [of] gold, [of] beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: [even] of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings(H3671) on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings(H3671), and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

 

The wings stretched over the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant, which was the seat of God in His temple. The abomination that makes desolate could therefore be the setting up of an idol to be worshiped in place of God in His house amongst His people. Historically that idol might be some carving of another god, or later a man declaring himself to be god demanding worship. He will destroy God's people, whether through deception to worship him over their God, or by death for refusing to worship him over their God.

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7) There are scriptures that say the King of the North will “come to his end” in the End Times, as will 2 Thessalonians 2ʼs Son of Perdition, and also the Little Horn of Daniel 7. However, the context of Daniel 9:26b-27 indicates that “the one coming in” is a commander who causes an army of his people to overwhelm and pour out destruction on someone else who has already brought desolation. But nothing in the passage says anything at all about the commander himself being overcome. That, however, is what most proponents of “the Antichrist” theory claim to be the case.

 

Verse 26b, IMO, is referring to 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem, the temple, and eventually all those who stood up against Rome until they were utterly defeated by Rome. The commander is not overcome, although I think he is killed and resurrected as depicted in Revelation 13. Indeed he is given power over the saints for 42 months starting at Daniel 12:1 just after he came to his end in Daniel 11:45. His ultimate end is when Yeshua returns to take the kingdoms at the end of His wrath in Revelation 19:20.