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  2. Wayne222

    Chal + earth -quake

    Praying I hope she is ok.
  3. john1

    Born again or from above?

    If your talking about your title. 1 John chapter 4 verse 7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. And your only born of God through love, not pointing out someone's sins.
  4. Daniel 11:36

    A Follower of Jesus is a Martyr ~ By Definition

    "In all your ways acknowledge Him, and he will make your paths straight" Just keep on this path and He will make it good for you
  5. Wayne222

    Finance to hire a car

    Praying for you to reach the village in a good way.
  6. Until we leave this life, the walk of a believer is always exactly at the place where God desires him at any given time, because He is using everything in our lives at all times to progressively “conform” our manner of life here. This means all that we encounter and obtain (no more and no less) is exactly what He not only already knows of but also uses to mature us in His Son Jesus. “Power Belongeth Unto God” “We have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us” (2 Cor 72:11). God never gives intrinsic (of its own accord—NC) power to His saints. “God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this, that power belongeth unto God (Psa 62:11). If this is important in the lives of the saints, how much more, if I may draw a distinction, is it for those who are called upon to serve in the Word. Yet in every service and in every action in the lives of God’s people, His power is needful, that they may walk and serve in the energy of the Spirit and in the manifestation of the life of the Lord Jesus in their mortal flesh. In order for the Christian life to be “not I, but Christ,” the Father’s discipline is suited and adapted to each individual soul. This is the reason why, I doubt not, that all speculations as to what was the nature of Paul’s thorn in the flesh, end in nothing. God has wisely seen fit to leave it untold. Were it made known, we would have perhaps settled that it was not ours (e.g. that we have no thorn—NC), and then have left it there. To have left it untold, gives us to see that there was a great principle of God’s dealings, seen in this man’s case, but applicable to all. Each would have his suited thorn, the very thing that would counteract his natural tendency; and so act to strip him of every pretension to power, and break any fancied strength of man. We see this on every hand, but we see it more clearly in our own soul’s history. For it is not always that another is permitted to know the secret thorn which rankles in the breast, such as that we would give the world to remove, until we know the “end of the Lord.” He presses home the “stake” which pins us to the earth, as it were, in much powerlessness. You see this at times, for instance, in incongruous marriages. The soul is worn away, especially in a sensitive, spiritual mind; and there is no earthly power which can change the sorrow, and heavenly deliverance is withheld. Again, there is a child whose conduct breaks the heart of a parent; every measure fails to deal with him, and the “thorn” rankles deeply in the wounded heart. It may be that some disgrace is permitted, as to which the soul feels that death were easier to beat. It may be that slander has stung the soul with deeper pain. There may be, too, some human weakness, which renders the afflicted one an object of pain to those who love him, or of ridicule to others. Such as these, and the many sorrows of the way are used of the Father as the thorn, to curb the energy of the flesh, to break the strength of “man.” Circumstances, friends, relatives, health and good name all are touched by Wisdom in this holy discipline of the soul. These things in the hand of the Father are like the river banks which on either side guide the stream of waters useful and fructifying, which, if flowing onwards without these guides, would devastate all around, instead of bearing a blessing on their bosom. How often have we not thought what good Christians we might have been if circumstances were different; in short, if the banks which carry the river were broken down. Nay, these are the wise dealings of our Father to keep us just in the channel and path where we are, in order to glorify Him. There is a “threefold cord” (Ecc 4:12) which must be found in the saint if he would serve his Lord aright: the motive, the energy and the end. At times the motive may be right and the end also, but the energy may be but the human vessel (Zec 4:6) working out, as it supposes, the things of the Lord. All three must go together, and this is the object of this disciplinary process that all may be of the Father, and not of us. - F G Patterson Excerpt from MJS devotional for June 20: “What becomes us now is to have the Lord Jesus before us, and not the correction of the old man. The snare of trying to improve oneself is very common, and it is important to see, that however well-meaning it may be, it is really a denial that our old man has been crucified, and a revival of that which has been judged in the death of the Cross.” – MJS http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
  7. angels4u

    I’m in need of prayers

    Welcome to Worthy Rosa, If you want to chat, please pm and I love to talk to you Trust God,stay close to Him, He is close to the brokenhearted! Psalm 34:18 and saves those who are crushed in spirit. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.1 Peter 5:7 Praying and God Bless , Angels
  8. Wayne222


    Praying hope you two get over it soon.
  9. Daniel 11:36

    Tribulation is not Wrath

    "If the antichrist is Gods wrath then no believer will have to deal with the antichrist. Remember? Believers are not appointed to wrath." This is true .... and the antichrist is definitely a part of the Lord's wrath during the coming tribulation period Today's believer is not appointed to the Lord's wrath
  10. angels4u

    Chal + earth -quake

    Hi Debp, Chal is a lady who is often in chat and she lives in Japan Praying....
  11. David the Prince

    Oneness Theology properly explained for Trinitarians

    Welcome. If you would like I believe I addressed John 1 in my recent reply to "shiloh357." So check that out if you get the chance.
  12. Gary Lee

    Good Day Brethrens

    Hello discapslo. I'm conservative, with occasional liberal moments. Have a nice lifetime....
  13. George

    Is it just me .... the legacy continues ...

    Y'all have issues ... cause it's unrealistic that anyone will be last but me ... but you can live in your delusions of grandeur ... thinking that you can be last! LOL!
  14. Daniel 11:36

    Revelation and the Study of Woe

    This is the Lord speaking as the narrative goes on .... His is omniscient and omnipressive And He is referring to His coming as thief at the beginning of His muster and actions to bring the coming tribulation period His first action will be to make Christians on this side of His wrath and judgment immortal [Revelation 7:9-17] He will then immediately begin His process to bring judgment upon an unbelieving world including the battle of Armageddon at the end of the 70th week decreed [Revelation 6:12-17] Make certain that you get this fact
  15. The_Patriot2018

    Is it just me .... the legacy continues ...

    I am never in denial of my last, there is no need to.
  16. FresnoJoe

    Oneness Theology properly explained for Trinitarians

    Mary In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. John 1:1-2 (New International Version) Was Not The Beginning Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross. Philippians 2:6-8 (New Living Translation) Of My LORD, My God And My Savior, Jesus Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John 20:26-29 (English Standard Version) ~ Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace. And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible) Love, Your Brother Joe ~ Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160 (King James Bible) The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable. Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you. It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword and the Christian’s charter. Here too, Heaven is opened and the gates of Hell disclosed. Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents. From The Inside Of My Gideon New Testament
  17. (Worthy News) - Bowing to pressure from anxious allies, US President Donald Trump signed an executive order Wednesday ending the process of separating children from families after they are detained crossing the US border illegally. It was a dramatic turnaround for Trump, who has been insisting, wrongly, that his administration had no choice but to separate families apprehended at the border because of federal law and a court decision. The news in recent days has been dominated by searing images of children held in cages at border facilities, as well as audio recordings of young children crying for their parents — images that have sparked fury, question of morality and concern from Republicans about a negative impact on their races in November’s midterm elections. [ Source: Times of Israel (Read More...) ] The post In reversal, Trump signs order stopping family separation appeared first on Worthy Christian News. View the full article
  18. David the Prince

    Oneness Theology properly explained for Trinitarians

    I believe you completely twisted the meaning of that phrase to mean something completely opposite of what it means. The words "beginning" and "firstborn" are translated from two completely different Greek words which have nothing to do with each other. The word "arche" used in Revelation 3:14 always means "beginning" and is translated as "beginning" in every other occasion in Scripture. And in Revelation 3:14 we are introduced to another title of Jesus which is that he is "the beginning of the creation of God." You have an unfortunate mistranslation here. Let's examine the version you quoted again: Colossians 1:16 16 For *by* him were all things created, that are *in* heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created *by* him, and for him: The same word first translated as "by" in this verse is the same word that is correctly translated as "in" in the same verse. If you don't believe me, see for yourself... http://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-16.htm And the Greek word for "in" here which is erroneously translated as "by" by the translation that you are quoting literally means "in"... http://biblehub.com/greek/1722.htm Ironically the Greek word for "in," "ἐν"(transliterated as "en") which always means "in" except in verses where proper syntax in needed, is 99.9% of the time translated as "in" everywhere else in the Bible... http://biblehub.com/greek/en_1722.htm To incorrectly translate the Greek word "ἐν" which means "in" as "by" in this verse completely misleads the reader because it tries to make it sound like Jesus helped in the creation, a notion debunked by Isaiah 44:24. The second time the word "by" appears in this verse is also mistranslated from the Greek word "δι"(transliterated as "dia") which actually means "through" and/or "on account of". http://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/1223.htm The phrase, “in him were created” proves that all of God’s creation was created “on account of him”, (on account of Jesus the Messiah). All created things were first “placed together” “in him” (in the Messiah) “in advance of all” things which were later physically created because God first created His detailed blueprint for all of His creation “in him”, “on account of him”, and “for him.” In this light we can understand why Jesus said in Revelation 3:14 that he is “the beginning of the creation of God” in God’s mental conception and why the apostle John wrote that Jesus was already “the Lamb which was slain from the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8)” before the Lamb of God was actually slain. The context of the Greek grammar in Colossians 1:16-17 proves that Paul was addressing the pre-creation or foreordination of all human ages “in” the Messiah, “on account of” the Messiah and “for” the Messiah before the human ages actually took place. This helps us make sense of other Scripture: Ephesians 1:4-5 “For He [the Father] chose us in him [Jesus] before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ…” Ephesians 1:4-5 describes our Heavenly Father as having already “predestined” His elect “IN (en) Him (Christ)” and “through (dia) Jesus Christ” “before the foundation of the world.” Ephesians 1:4-5, “He chose us IN (en) HIM (Christ) before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love. HE PREDESTINED US to adoption as sons THROUGH (dia) JESUS CHRIST to Himself …” If God’s elect can be “predestined … THROUGH (DIA-on account of) JESUS CHRIST,” then so could the entire creation be “predestined … THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.” Almost all of the English translations of the Bible before the King James version which were based off of the Greek text properly read like this: Geneva 1 In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. 2 This same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. 4 In it was life, and that life was the light of men. William Tyndale 1In the beginning was that word, and that word was with God: and God was that word.2The same was in the beginning with God.3All things were made by it, and without it, was made no thing, that made was. 4In it was life, And life was the light of men, Besides those, The Great Bible (1539-40), the Bishops’ Bible (1568), and Matthew’s Bible (1537) all properly translate the verse there as "it." As well as many others. In fact the first eight English translations before the King James that were based off of the Greek text read like that. What the Greek actually says is "All things were made through it, and without it was not anything made that was made." If you actually read the verse without any trinitarian bias it actually becomes very clear. What do I mean by trinitarian bias? Well as I'm sure you know, the trinitarian interpretation of John 1:1 would be "In the beginning was the Son, and the Son was with the other two persons of the trinity, and the Son was also God." If you actually read it without any bias it would say "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Father, and the Father was the Word."-That's the correct word order from the Greek btw. The Greek word for "Word" there is "Logos" which simply means, "[someone's] expressed thought or self expression." So this is what John is trying to convey here in these verses: In the beginning there was God's divine word(divine plan) and it was stored in God’s heart and was his own creative self-expression(the Father was the Word). All things came into being through that divine word and without it nothing was made that was made...And the word/plan became flesh — was realized in a human person and dwelt among us. The Apostle John interpreted what he meant by this when he opened his first epistle by stating "That [the Word] which was from the beginning." Actually, when the Apostle John wrote of a person who was with another person, he never used the Greek preposition (pros) as in John 1:1. Hence, when John wrote that the word was with (pros) God, he was not saying that the logos was an actual distinct person with God before that logos was made flesh. If the apostle John had meant that a person (the Son) was actually in view with another person (the Father), he would have used one of the two Greek prepositions, “PARA” or “META,” meaning with. These are the words that he used elsewhere in his gospel narrative to describe a person actually being with another person. For example, in John 1:49 we read: "They stayed with (para) him for the day." Here John used “para” for persons staying “with” (para) another person. Likewise, in John 4:40, we read: “They asked him to stay with (para) them.” Here again we see that John regularly used the Greek word PARA for a person staying with (para) other persons. Many other examples show that John always used the Greek words “para” or “meta” for a person actually being with another person (or other persons), but we never find the apostle John ever using “pros” for a person being with another person(s). John 14:17 says, “he remained with (para) you.” John 14:25 says, “These things I spoke to you while I was with (para) you.” John further employed the use of the Greek preposition “META” (with) throughout his gospel narrative for persons being with other persons, but he never employed the Greek preposition “pros” for people being with other people. For example, John 3:22 reads, “They stayed with (meta) him.” John 3:25 says that John the Baptists disciples had "a discussion with (meta) a Jew." Here again, the preposition META is used for John’s disciples having a discussion “with” a Jew about purification. If the apostle John had meant, “in the beginning was the Son, and the Son was with the Father,” he would have used one of the two Greek prepositions PARA or META for a person actually being with another person. Since John used “pros” for God's (logos) plan or purpose being with (pros) God, he had to have meant that His foreknown plan (or message) was with Himself in the same way Paul wrote that the gospel message was with the Galatians in Galatians 2:5. “So THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL (not a person but the message) may stay WITH (PROS) you (hymas – a personal pronoun).” Galatians 2:5
  19. JoeChan82

    Revelation and the Study of Woe

    Revelation 16:12-16 ¶ And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
  20. Behold

    Your best advice in 4 or less words?

    1. Never Repeat A Mistake 2. Finish What You Start 3. Never Betray A Friend 4. Think Before You Act 5. Always Tell The Truth 6. Maintain A Thankful Heart 7. Be First To Help 8. Let The Past Go 9. Don't Waste Your Time 10. Try Till You Suceed
  21. JoeChan82

    Revelation and the Study of Woe

    These verses seem plain to me. I don't know how to else to explain them. Revelation 21:9-10 ¶ And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
  22. Then why are you in denial. it's obvious you are not last. and In fact you deny the fact of me being last
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  24. Debp

    Chal + earth -quake

    NHK news...100,000 still without gas. Should be turned on by Monday. Temporary baths have been set up for people. Weather rainy so homes losing their roofs are affected. The people are still so pleasant but scared as there are many tremors. (I visited the Osaka and Kyoto area years ago so always am interested in Japan.). Is Chal a Japanese person living there? Praying for them.
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