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  2. Cletus had the definition SPOT ON RIGHT . Behold failed massive .
  3. At least I am not the culprit on all this biting for a change.
  4. We “ should” but we don’t.......we need a loophole....
  5. And they have forgotten , that while the law is not made for a righteous man . it can be used as correction and reminders . If not , why did paul quoate the fifth commandment when he said CHILDREN OBEY YOUR PARENTS . KADOW . GOT THEM . While we don't seek the law to justify us for both of us knows full well ONLY Faith in CHRIST justifies , we know How to apply correction when correction is necessary . If using the law to correct or remind is a legalist . LOOK OUT PAUL who himself spoke so much about not seeking to be justified by the law . HE USED the fifth commandment . IN fact surprise , surprise , he used more than that . What did paul say , LET HIM he who stole steal no more . OH NO , OH NO that is using the law , OOOPS . WE GOT them. No murderer JOHN says has enternal life , OH NO , thou shalt not murder , he is using the law . WE GOT THEM NOW . I knew it would come . LET the warners warn and leave them be . THEY do as they do for the sake of the church . OH no , paul said not to commit adultery , OH NO he is a legalist for the law says not to also . WRONG the law was on his heart . OOPS . we got major problems .
  6. I can't believe I ate the whole thing.
  7. What truly terrifies me is this . If we truly have the Holy SPIRIT in us , and we have learned Christ , we would long by now be identical and see sin the exact same way the apostles who warned about it did . Men are destroying the churches . Grace would be teaching us all things necessary to walk holy and to be grave and serious when error is spotted . Grace would not make light of sin . JESUS DID NOT . Don't we KNOW JESUS IS the comforter . WHY would the SPIRIT then approach sin differently than did Christ or the apostles who I KNOW HAD the SPIRIT . We must do an all out exodus of mens acroynms and doctrines and do a massive ENTRODUS back into THE BIBLE . DO IT NOW . DO it now before its too late .
  8. Well this is as close as I've seen OO get to making a smart remark! enoob on the other hand says everything OO was thinking using the rudest vocabulary imaginable. You two make a perfect comedy team. pass me a cookie, muffy
  9. Every day I grow more and more worried for blood bought . He is giving folks a license to sin . He may not support sin , but he is giving folks a free pass to will full sin . He has no idea the danger he is in . There are others here who may be osas , but I do not even see them saying what blood bought implies . We should examine how he approaches sin and how all the apostles did . And what a major difference in the two . Yet our pattern should be identical to the pattern set in that bible . If not we are misunderstanding something big time . I know what the problem is , anything to do with working out our own salvation with fear and trembling , Has been turned into legalism . They took a big part of the original pattern set by CHRIST and kept by the apostels away from the church . is it then any wonder why error only begat more error . We gotta do something . They think we are legalists , and have no idea we are simply keeping the same pattern the early church did . Guess paul, james and some of us are all legalists . Cletus you just don't know how worried I am about this for some . Wait , you actually do , you seem worried for them too .
  10. Agreed, where people get a wee bit confused in that passage is the Holy Spirit is ordered to stop blocking the Anti-Christ/Man of Sin from coming forth, or he is taken out of the way, or so that used to be my thinking. Try this on for size brother. It is the Church with the Holy Spirit working through it that blocks the Man of Sin from coming forth, thus the Church is taken out of the way via the Pre-trib Rapture !! Jesus told Peter, the gates of hell will not prevail against my Church. Thus the Beast {Rome} received the Mortal Wound, which can only be healed after the Church is Raptured. So I have come to see that which is take out of the way as the Church or body of Christ holding back evil via the Holy Spirit working through us. Think of the void on the earth when we are gone. Well I see after reading we are in perfect agreement pretty much.....I was going to go point by point, but we are pretty much in sync. Great post.
  11. There he goes again with his split personality. Have you been taking your meds enoob???
  12. For consideration: There are references to incarnations or Christophanies by the Son of God long before He again took on the flesh of man by Mary. He appeared in the firey furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego likened to a son of the gods. He wrestled Jacob ( Israel), and Jacob who had wrestled the man ( Jesus) all night declared I have seen the face of God and I have not died. Jesus makes clear declaration within much of John 8 that he has always been the Son of God. That He and God The Father are one. -------------
  13. Yeshua, being the Person of God, knew the Cross was ahead of Him. The Lord's prayer has nothing to do with the Law or with Grace, much like the 10 Commandments, do not have relationship to the Law or Grace. And we should always abide by them, especially the ones that Yeshua redefined.
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