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  2. Yes, indeed I most certainly am. This detailed description, was heard at least twice from the pulpit of two different ministers. Thoughts remind me of the film, The Passion. Thank the good Lord for His love and sacrifice. Shalom, David/BeauJangles
  3. Some writers use the proceeds to fund missions of the ministry they are partnered with and never touch a profit so to speak. But publishers need to run a business and paper isn't free or the rent in the stores who sell the books. Many people volunteer in editing and proofreading. Writing is very laborious especially to those who are called as teachers and pastors. Engaging with people is where their hearts are not cut off in a room. It's why books can take years to finish and many times not at all. I think holding back teaching CDs or printed material because a person is unable to afford them is wrong. Those of us who have the means to purchase should because solid ministries give freely. Those who purchase and give extra to a ministry help supply teaching materials, Bibles and books to those that are less fortunate. So some ministries have built on the concept of freely receive freely give but rent, food, travel, publishing, isn't free. If music, books, teaching CDs are part of a "Christian Industry" instead of a Christian Ministry then I agree in part with you, don't buy them. But usually good teaching, good books are a part of good ministry. I went last minute to a midweek study years ago and had forgotten my wallet in the rush. The speaker was profound so I went to the table their ministry had set up looking over the tapes and grabbing information when the man running the table asked what subject matter I was into at the moment and I said I was in such a hurry to get out of the house I forgot my wallet and he smiled and said "Freely receive, freely give. Take what you want." I still give to that ministry at times and it's been a few decades now. They have an aids orphanage in South Africa, plant churches, help the poor and supply schools for their children in a number of countries. It's not a huge ministry and mostly small communities but except for the orphanage leader, school teachers and a few missionaries, no one else receives any salaries, the administrators in any country or the head of the ministry itself do not receive pay. Travel costs are covered but most everyone makes tents so to speak. All book and tape proceeds go into these diverse ministries and the production of more materials. So ya in a perfect world everything is free, but this is not a perfect world. People need to work and people need money. Nothing wrong with money, just our attitude toward it. Fallen man is the problem. What's important is the content of the book and what ministry is the writer attached to? Discernment. At this point, I will not spend a dime on NT Wright material. I've listened to hours on the web and read a book given to me written by him but will not lend any help in that direction. I'll read his material and listen for discernment purposes only if it is free. The Lord's money needs to go to real ministry. Not some hierarchical gibber jab of intellectual hogwash ecumenism whitewashed sepulchre oxford accented politically motivated speech. But that's just me. We all have choices to make.
  4. A Physician's View of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ Related Content Find Power in your inbox with God's Word Related Topics Jesus Pain and Suffering Death Easter Dr. C. Truman Davis Share Tweet Email + WARNING: MATERIAL IN THIS ARTICLE MAY BE UNSUITABLE FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN. PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED. About a decade ago, reading Jim Bishop’s The Day Christ Died, I realized that I had for years taken the Crucifixion more or less for granted — that I had grown callous to its horror by a too easy familiarity with the grim details and a too distant friendship with our Lord. It finally occurred to me that, though a physician, I didn’t even know the actual immediate cause of death. The Gospel writers don’t help us much on this point, because crucifixion and scourging were so common during their lifetime that they apparently considered a detailed description unnecessary. So we have only the concise words of the Evangelists: “Pilate, having scourged Jesus, delivered Him to them to be crucified — and they crucified Him.” I have no competence to discuss the infinite psychic and spiritual suffering of the Incarnate God atoning for the sins of fallen man. But it seemed to me that as a physician I might pursue the physiological and anatomical aspects of our Lord’s passion in some detail. What did the body of Jesus of Nazareth actually endure during those hours of torture? This led me first to a study of the practice of crucifixion itself; that is, torture and execution by fixation to a cross. I am indebted to many who have studied this subject in the past, and especially to a contemporary colleague, Dr. Pierre Barbet, a French surgeon who has done exhaustive historical and experimental research and has written extensively on the subject. Apparently, the first known practice of crucifixion was by the Persians. Alexander and his generals brought it back to the Mediterranean world — to Egypt and to Carthage. The Romans apparently learned the practice from the Carthaginians and (as with almost everything the Romans did) rapidly developed a very high degree of efficiency and skill at it. A number of Roman authors (Livy, Cicer, Tacitus) comment on crucifixion, and several innovations, modifications, and variations are described in the ancient literature. For instance, the upright portion of the cross (or stipes) could have the cross-arm (or patibulum) attached two or three feet below its top in what we commonly think of as the Latin cross. The most common form used in our Lord’s day, however, was the Tau cross, shaped like our T. In this cross, the patibulum was placed in a notch at the top of the stipes. There is archeological evidence that it was on this type of cross that Jesus was crucified. Without any historical or biblical proof, Medieval and Renaissance painters have given us our picture of Christ carrying the entire cross. But the upright post, or stipes, was generally fixed permanently in the ground at the site of execution and the condemned man was forced to carry the patibulum, weighing about 110 pounds, from the prison to the place of execution. Many of the painters and most of the sculptors of crucifixion, also show the nails through the palms. Historical Roman accounts and experimental work have established that the nails were driven between the small bones of the wrists (radial and ulna) and not through the palms. Nails driven through the palms will strip out between the fingers when made to support the weight of the human body. The misconception may have come about through a misunderstanding of Jesus’ words to Thomas, “Observe my hands.” Anatomists, both modern and ancient, have always considered the wrist as part of the hand. A titulus, or small sign, stating the victim’s crime was usually placed on a staff, carried at the front of the procession from the prison, and later nailed to the cross so that it extended above the head. This sign with its staff nailed to the top of the cross would have given it somewhat the characteristic form of the Latin cross. But, of course, the physical passion of the Christ began in Gethsemane. Of the many aspects of this initial suffering, the one of greatest physiological interest is the bloody sweat. It is interesting that St. Luke, the physician, is the only one to mention this. He says, “And being in agony, He prayed the longer. And His sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground.” Every ruse (trick) imaginable has been used by modern scholars to explain away this description, apparently under the mistaken impression that this just doesn’t happen. A great deal of effort could have been saved had the doubters consulted the medical literature. Though very rare, the phenomenon of Hematidrosis, or bloody sweat, is well documented. Under great emotional stress of the kind our Lord suffered, tiny capillaries in the sweat glands can break, thus mixing blood with sweat. This process might well have produced marked weakness and possible shock. After the arrest in the middle of the night, Jesus was next brought before the Sanhedrin and Caiphus, the High Priest; it is here that the first physical trauma was inflicted. A soldier struck Jesus across the face for remaining silent when questioned by Caiphus. The palace guards then blind-folded Him and mockingly taunted Him to identify them as they each passed by, spat upon Him, and struck Him in the face. In the early morning, battered and bruised, dehydrated, and exhausted from a sleepless night, Jesus is taken across the Praetorium of the Fortress Antonia, the seat of government of the Procurator of Judea, Pontius Pilate. You are, of course, familiar with Pilate’s action in attempting to pass responsibility to Herod Antipas, the Tetrarch of Judea. Jesus apparently suffered no physical mistreatment at the hands of Herod and was returned to Pilate. It was then, in response to the cries of the mob, that Pilate ordered Bar-Abbas released and condemned Jesus to scourging and crucifixion. There is much disagreement among authorities about the unusual scourging as a prelude to crucifixion. Most Roman writers from this period do not associate the two. Many scholars believe that Pilate originally ordered Jesus scourged as his full punishment and that the death sentence by crucifixion came only in response to the taunt by the mob that the Procurator was not properly defending Caesar against this pretender who allegedly claimed to be the King of the Jews. Preparations for the scourging were carried out when the Prisoner was stripped of His clothing and His hands tied to a post above His head. It is doubtful the Romans would have made any attempt to follow the Jewish law in this matter, but the Jews had an ancient law prohibiting more than forty lashes. The Roman legionnaire steps forward with the flagrum (or flagellum) in his hand. This is a short whip consisting of several heavy, leather thongs with two small balls of lead attached near the ends of each. The heavy whip is brought down with full force again and again across Jesus’ shoulders, back, and legs. At first the thongs cut through the skin only. Then, as the blows continue, they cut deeper into the subcutaneous tissues, producing first an oozing of blood from the capillaries and veins of the skin, and finally spurting arterial bleeding from vessels in the underlying muscles. The small balls of lead first produce large, deep bruises which are broken open by subsequent blows. Finally the skin of the back is hanging in long ribbons and the entire area is an unrecognizable mass of torn, bleeding tissue. When it is determined by the centurion in charge that the prisoner is near death, the beating is finally stopped. The half-fainting Jesus is then untied and allowed to slump to the stone pavement, wet with His own blood. The Roman soldiers see a great joke in this provincial Jew claiming to be king. They throw a robe across His shoulders and place a stick in His hand for a scepter. They still need a crown to make their travesty complete. Flexible branches covered with long thorns (commonly used in bundles for firewood) are plaited into the shape of a crown and this is pressed into His scalp. Again there is copious bleeding, the scalp being one of the most vascular areas of the body. After mocking Him and striking Him across the face, the soldiers take the stick from His hand and strike Him across the head, driving the thorns deeper into His scalp. Finally, they tire of their sadistic sport and the robe is torn from His back. Already having adhered to the clots of blood and serum in the wounds, its removal causes excruciating pain just as in the careless removal of a surgical bandage, and almost as though He were again being whipped the wounds once more begin to bleed. In deference to Jewish custom, the Romans return His garments. The heavy patibulum of the cross is tied across His shoulders, and the procession of the condemned Christ, two thieves, and the execution detail of Roman soldiers headed by a centurion begins its slow journey along the Via Dolorosa. In spite of His efforts to walk erect, the weight of the heavy wooden beam, together with the shock produced by copious blood loss, is too much. He stumbles and falls. The rough wood of the beam gouges into the lacerated skin and muscles of the shoulders. He tries to rise, but human muscles have been pushed beyond their endurance. The centurion, anxious to get on with the crucifixion, selects a stalwart North African onlooker, Simon of Cyrene, to carry the cross. Jesus follows, still bleeding and sweating the cold, clammy sweat of shock, until the 650 yard journey from the fortress Antonia to Golgotha is finally completed. Jesus is offered wine mixed with myrrh, a mild analgesic mixture. He refuses to drink. Simon is ordered to place the patibulum on the ground and Jesus quickly thrown backward with His shoulders against the wood. The legionnaire feels for the depression at the front of the wrist. He drives a heavy, square, wrought-iron nail through the wrist and deep into the wood. Quickly, he moves to the other side and repeats the action, being careful not to pull the arms too tightly, but to allow some flexion and movement. The patibulum is then lifted in place at the top of the stipes and the titulus reading, “Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews,” is nailed in place. The left foot is now pressed backward against the right foot, and with both feet extended, toes down, a nail is driven through the arch of each, leaving the knees moderately flexed. The Victim is now crucified. As He slowly sags down with more weight on the nails in the wrists, excruciating pain shoots along the fingers and up the arms to explode in the brain — the nails in the wrists are putting pressure on the median nerves. As He pushes Himself upward to avoid this stretching torment, He places His full weight on the nail through His feet. Again there is the searing agony of the nail tearing through the nerves between the metatarsal bones of the feet. At this point, as the arms fatigue, great waves of cramps sweep over the muscles, knotting them in deep, relentless, throbbing pain. With these cramps comes the inability to push Himself upward. Hanging by his arms, the pectoral muscles are paralyzed and the intercostal muscles are unable to act. Air can be drawn into the lungs, but cannot be exhaled. Jesus fights to raise Himself in order to get even one short breath. Finally, carbon dioxide builds up in the lungs and in the blood stream and the cramps partially subside. Spasmodically, he is able to push Himself upward to exhale and bring in the life-giving oxygen. It was undoubtedly during these periods that He uttered the seven short sentences recorded: The first, looking down at the Roman soldiers throwing dice for His seamless garment, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” The second, to the penitent thief, “Today thou shalt be with me in Paradise.” The third, looking down at the terrified, grief-stricken adolescent John — the beloved Apostle — he said, “Behold thy mother.” Then, looking to His mother Mary, “Woman behold thy son.” The fourth cry is from the beginning of the 22nd Psalm, “My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?” Jesus experienced hours of limitless pain, cycles of twisting, joint-rending cramps, intermittent partial asphyxiation, searing pain where tissue is torn from His lacerated back as He moves up and down against the rough timber. Then another agony begins -- a terrible crushing pain deep in the chest as the pericardium slowly fills with serum and begins to compress the heart. One remembers again the 22nd Psalm, the 14th verse: “I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.” It is now almost over. The loss of tissue fluids has reached a critical level; the compressed heart is struggling to pump heavy, thick, sluggish blood into the tissue; the tortured lungs are making a frantic effort to gasp in small gulps of air. The markedly dehydrated tissues send their flood of stimuli to the brain. Jesus gasps His fifth cry, “I thirst.” One remembers another verse from the prophetic 22nd Psalm: “My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou has brought me into the dust of death.” A sponge soaked in posca, the cheap, sour wine which is the staple drink of the Roman legionaries, is lifted to His lips. He apparently doesn’t take any of the liquid. The body of Jesus is now in extremes, and He can feel the chill of death creeping through His tissues. This realization brings out His sixth words, possibly little more than a tortured whisper, “It is finished.” His mission of atonement has completed. Finally He can allow his body to die. With one last surge of strength, he once again presses His torn feet against the nail, straightens His legs, takes a deeper breath, and utters His seventh and last cry, “Father! Into thy hands I commit my spirit.” The rest you know. In order that the Sabbath not be profaned, the Jews asked that the condemned men be dispatched and removed from the crosses. The common method of ending a crucifixion was by crurifracture, the breaking of the bones of the legs. This prevented the victim from pushing himself upward; thus the tension could not be relieved from the muscles of the chest and rapid suffocation occurred. The legs of the two thieves were broken, but when the soldiers came to Jesus they saw that this was unnecessary. Apparently, to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance through the fifth interspace between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart. The 34th verse of the 19th chapter of the Gospel according to St. John reports: “And immediately there came out blood and water.” That is, there was an escape of water fluid from the sac surrounding the heart, giving postmortem evidence that Our Lord died not the usual crucifixion death by suffocation, but of heart failure (a broken heart) due to shock and constriction of the heart by fluid in the pericardium. Thus we have had our glimpse — including the medical evidence — of that epitome of evil which man has exhibited toward Man and toward God. It has been a terrible sight, and more than enough to leave us despondent and depressed. How grateful we can be that we have the great sequel in the infinite mercy of God toward man — at once the miracle of the atonement (at one ment) and the expectation of the triumphant Easter morning. Are you moved by what Jesus did for you on the cross?
  5. You and your family are in my prayers. I started writing on my computer every blessing. No matter how small or big I would write it down. It helped me know that God is working in my life more than I realize it and lifted my spirit.
  6. GOD's Righteousness is imputed to lead us into doing the Will of God as we are led by His Spirit. It is not given us to continue in sin....it is to do God's work in us to save us - ongoing.
  7. Hi Blood Bought, when he was in the temple... yes he wasn't worried. I stay with my opinion, this is highly disrespectful, especially when you know they are there... Everyone can read, this is a public fourm - even atheists can read that you call them "swine" and "pig". Even if you say getting called "pig" and "swine" helped you... disrespectful behaviour is disrespectful behaviour. If you appreciate being beaten... that doesn't mean that others appreciate being beaten by you, too. Regards, Thomas
  8. You can do math when you play basketball. Calculate the momentum, use statistics to gauge whether you want to take the shot or not... Or you could just dribble the ball and play it by instinct. Honestly, the vast majority of jobs you have to go to college for could just do on-the-job training, but then that lacks prestige. Think of it like driving. The manual makes it kind of complicated, but then you get used to driving and it almost becomes second instinct. College is a bunch of technical babble to explain something that's more simple in practice. While numbers are important, one must never forget the element of people. If you make a good enough impression, you're willing to put in that extra effort to succeed, someone can give you a chance. If you have all of the qualifications for a job, but you show up wearing pajama bottoms and the most that they get out of you is a grunt or two, the job is going to be given to the more enthusiastic prospect. You would have to study hard, but i'm sure that if you want to, you can succeed. I was also going to suggest non-college options, as many jobs don't require a degree and still pay as much if not more than college careers, but then I read that you're seeking social work. I don't think that social workers are held to an exceptional standard; you're dealing with people, not doing brain surgery. One of those community places might be good enough. Even then, do you have a set career path in mind? I can think of a few trades a person could go to trade school for as well, if their intention is to work with people.
  9. leaving isn't an issue, as if you need safety or have difficulty living with each other- but that doesn't require you to divorce. But for the verses where I find it's not the will of God EVER that you divorce; Matthew 19:6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” I believe when it says let no man separate, I believe that includes the couple themselves not to separate. And do you understand the very chapter you brought up in that tells couples not to divorce. That chapter actually would recommend for a couple to stay together, which i will bring up a little later here. Matthew 19:8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so." This verse tells us simply by the Lord, that people wanted divorcements for the evilness of their hearts, and so Moses allowed them to divorce since they wouldn't get over it and constantly keep bringing it up and making such a big deal about it. But it says in the beginning, God didn't want that, it wasn't supposed to be like that. But if God is going to allow it, he only does under a certain condition, that is if one or the other or both have committed sexual immorality, basically cheating. What people really go wrong is what scripture clearly commands what to do and not to do if you choose to divorce. Even Jesus brought this point up to the Pharisees in chapter 19 of Matthew. Matthew 19:3-9 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” ... Mark 10:12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.” I mean, wow. That was hardcore wasn't it? Do you have any clue how many Christians alone even disobey God's word here? So many Christian women I have met have divorced even twice and keep jumping to another man. Here says they have committed adultery if they have divorced and married someone else. Matthew 19:9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.” Same thing, but here you see where the Lord says "except." Here's a very clear verse not to marry someone else or divorce, unless you divorce and remarry who you were first married to, and this is right before the part you were talking about in Chapter 7 of 1st Corinthians. It says they are to remain unmarried to anyone unless they remarry who they have divorced. 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife. And I point out the aspect of someone's love, their godly love, when they claim they want or they were not wrong for divorcing, that here it shows you don't love who you married if you divorce them, simply divorcing shows your selfish, evil, sinful heart; Malachi 2:13-16 13 Another thing you do: You flood the Lord’s altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer looks with favor on your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands.But you say, “Why does he not?” Because the Lord was witness between you and the wife of your youth, to whom you have been faithless, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant. Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union? And what was the one God seeking? Godly offspring. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth. “For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the Lord, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the Lord of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.” This tells us clearly, it bothers the Lord that we want a divorcement. The only places I find where it says someone is free to marry someone else and not be guilty of sin, is when their spouse has died. Verses like this; Romans 7:3 Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Corinthians 7;15 says you can let someone "leave," that doesn't have to mean divorce. Even so, Paul still told us just before this, 1 Corinthians 7:12-13 12 "To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him." That being said, even if they are an unbeliever, it shouldn't be the Christian's desire to ever leave, but if the unbeliever wants to leave, then it's okay to let them leave. Especially if you study other languages like Greek, it doesn't implicate that it means they should or need to divorce. Not at all. Separation, as in, living elsewhere or going somewhere separately, does not mean a couple is divorced. Still, we must not ignore all these other countless scriptures about divorcement. We should never assume in our own understanding that God is "okay" with our reasons for wanting to divorce. We should take Him at His word in scripture and obey it. We are not simply dealing with a piece of candy being stolen, or even simply a crime, though they are both sin and deserving Hell, we are dealing with the symbol of Christ's marriage with us, the Church! Our physical marriages in flesh are a symbol of our spiritual marriage with Christ. As if man was Christ being the groom, and wife was the Church being the bride. We are taking the symbol of what God has made to show how He wants us to view how we should love someone as God loves us. That no matter what happens and until the end of everything, we are there for each other in love, forgiving and staying together through everything, that we are even sacrificing and even surrendering our lives for someone else. When you keep in mind for any reason that you would want a divorce, you are showing you are putting yourself before the one you married, and that you have set certain conditions they must follow or else you are breaking your covenant you made with them, you even went against such vows as "for better or for worse-" we constantly see that being broken, because when times comes to the worst, it's over and they lied about their vows. If the Lord had set conditions for our marriage with Him, we'd all be doomed for Hell. That isn't how Christ wants us to love our spouses. What also to keep in mind, is not once to we ever see God literally tells us, or anyone, that we SHOULD or MUST divorce, but rather it says in the beginning divorcement wasn't the plan, if you can then stay married, if you divorce then remarry if you can, let no man separate what couple God has joined together, etc- verse after verse telling us to stay committed to that person. And only under 1 condition will God "allow" someone to divorce and not be guilty of sin. Divorcement is NEVER glory to God, but rather a disgrace and dishonor to the symbol of His marriage with the Church, His bride. Remember, Jesus told us that Moses had made a law that we could divorce because of the hardness of our hearts. Anyone thinking about divorcement, dwell on these scriptures, and pray, and ask yourself "Do I want a divorce for my will, or God's will? How can I give glory to God through breaking a covenant unlike the covenant God still hasn't broken with me? Is my heart hardened that I desire a divorcement through my fleshly desires, or is it the Holy Spirit giving me a desire to divorce?" In everything we do, we are to do it for the glory of God. And I cannot find any glory or a good reason to praise God for a divorcement. I never see that as an option in our marriage with my wife, even if she cheated. Because like God chose to love me despite my sin, I want to do the same for my wife and love her and be with her till the very end of my days no matter what she does. I want to love how the Lord loves His Church. God has never forsaken any of those whom He saved, so I don't believe we should forsake our spouses. And surely, we have done much worse before God and to God than our spouses could do to us in a lifetime.
  10. True, we can not attain righteousness by WORKS of the law.....nobody is claiming WORKS to save us.
  11. Agree with you NEIGHBOR Grace and law (Commandments) go hand in hand.
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  13. They really happy that they were able to kill Jesus. And they are unhappy because He rose from the dead. They want to kill Him again but they can't. Nevertheless they can kill us. Our deaths and our injuries mean celebration to them! If we died, they will gloat over us and will celebrate by sending each other gifts. "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell on the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelled on the earth." (Rev.11:7-10) They made us suffer ... and suffer ... and suffer... because of Jesus. Brothers, they already make our lives miserable. But does that make sense? How can anyone want to live like that? We don't want to die. And we can't live like that But we don't have a choice, because: - they can and want to kill us because of God - we can't stop loving God All we can do is pray: “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” ' Revelation 6:9-10 Does God have a choice? Is this really the right thing to do?
  14. When it comes to medical proceedures, I like to think medical staff are there... Sort of like a tool. They may try to save a person's life, but it is ultimately up to God whether they live or die. That is, of course, assuming the staff is behaving with honor and are not mere money schemers not looking to fix anything, but rather, get that dough. Commercialism is what makes the most sense in this world, it's just that it has a really bad inevitable habit of becoming rampant and hyperactive. Greed is very present in our industry. It used to make sense with merely breeding the best of the crop, but then food companies have to compete with one another. One decided to add a little bit of this to make their apples look more red, then another adds something else to make their apples look bigger... Soon enough, we're not eating apples so much as we are eating 30% apples 70% chemicals. That has negative effects on humans and animals both. Not to mention how much the FDA has become unreliable. They had a noble goal at the start, but it seems like if you pay them enough, they'll put it on the shelves anyway. Even then, many products are placed on shelves even without FDA approval. AnOrangeCat makes a point in that regard. Doctors even used to prescribe whiskey and cigars to people. Having breathing difficulty? Get a Cuban. Life got you down? You can find happiness at the bottom of a bottle. Even with the FDA in place, when they try to convince people that they are upright and honorable, you still have an endless supply of snake oil merchants. In my opinion, medicine and the likes thereof should be the last solution. We have become overly dependent on medicine to solve our ailments, and to me, that has created many weak immune systems. The proper ones may turn their noses, sure, but it's the pus in the wound that makes the blood stronger. I'm not saying we should forgoe medicine altogether, but it's a very dangerous road. Nothing comes without a price, and the convenience we've had in avoiding sickness will crumble someday.
  15. I'm sitting in the docs office waiting for my z-pac prescription to get rid of this pesky sinus issue. Cause enoob was stingy worth the pillz
  16. No, all these are right and proper on a sunday or any other day but negating and rejecting GOD's Holy day instead is the problem .
  17. There are a lot of poeple who criticize christians for making money using the Word of God. would it be wrong to write a christian book and sell it? Matthew 10:8 says "Freely you have received; freely give." So, selling christian stuff would be wrong? Thanks
  18. “Again, you have heard that our fathers were told, ‘Do not break your oath,’ and ‘Keep your vows to Adonai.’[e] 34 But I tell you not to swear at all — not ‘by heaven,’ because it is God’s throne; 35 not ‘by the earth,’ because it is his footstool;[f] and not ‘by Yerushalayim,’ because it is the city of the Great King.[g] 36 And don’t swear by your head, because you can’t make a single hair white or black. 37 Just let your ‘Yes’ be a simple ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No’ a simple ‘No’; anything more than this has its origin in evil. אַל־תְּבַהֵ֨ל עַל־פִּ֜יךָ וְלִבְּךָ֧ אַל־יְמַהֵ֛ר לְהוֹצִ֥יא דָבָ֖ר לִפְנֵ֣י הָאֱלֹהִ֑ים כִּ֣י הָאֱלֹהִ֤ים בַּשָּׁמַ֙יִם֙ וְאַתָּ֣ה עַל־הָאָ֔רֶץ עַֽל־כֵּ֛ן יִהְי֥וּ דְבָרֶ֖יךָ מְעַטִּֽים׃ Keep your mouth from being rash, and let not your throat be quick to bring forth speech before God. For God is in heaven and you are on earth; that is why your words should be few. 2 כִּ֛י בָּ֥א הַחֲל֖וֹם בְּרֹ֣ב עִנְיָ֑ן וְק֥וֹל כְּסִ֖יל בְּרֹ֥ב דְּבָרִֽים׃ Just as dreams come with much brooding, so does foolish utterance come with much speech. 3 כַּאֲשֶׁר֩ תִּדֹּ֨ר נֶ֜דֶר לֵֽאלֹהִ֗ים אַל־תְּאַחֵר֙ לְשַׁלְּמ֔וֹ כִּ֛י אֵ֥ין חֵ֖פֶץ בַּכְּסִילִ֑ים אֵ֥ת אֲשֶׁר־תִּדֹּ֖ר שַׁלֵּֽם׃ When you make a vow to God, do not delay to fulfill it. For He has no pleasure in fools; what you vow, fulfill. 4 ט֖וֹב אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־תִדֹּ֑ר מִשֶׁתִּדּ֖וֹר וְלֹ֥א תְשַׁלֵּֽם׃ It is better not to vow at all than to vow and not fulfill.
  19. I keep telling last she should try that She's never been outside of our little town
  20. I have prayed for you. God bless.
  21. Prayed for you dear PrayerWarrior. I have made many a mistake in the past too. I made bad choices but it's ok. People are not perfect. God loves us and helps us through everything. It will be ok one way or another everything will be fine. God is for you and loves you. Do not be overwhelmed trust God each day do the best you can in God's strength. He is with you and for you .. he knows everything that is happening and working it out for good. Mostly do not fear, continue trusting God and following him. Hour by hour, day by day. You will be on the other side this. Praying for God's wisdom and strength for you and blessing and your husbands and children's salvation and he would get the right job. Love to you and a big huge hug. Keep strong! It is going to get better.
  22. Yes, it all started with Satan since the Garden. In Christ Montana Marv
  23. Hi There are actually more than two gospels: And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Galatians 3:8 The gospel was given to Abraham. A gospel is glad tidings, good news. The obligation of mankind is to believe what God said. Abraham believed. And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. Genesis 15:5 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Genesis 15:6 The gospel was given to Israel in the wilderness. (Hebrews 3:17) For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. Hebrews 4:2 What gospel was the writer of Hebrews referring to ? Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them. Deuteronomy 1:8 The gospel of entering into God's rest thru belief in the book of Hebrews is not the same gospel given to Israel in the wilderness to possess the land. We can see how the word gospel can have more than just one use in the Bible. The everlasting gospel preached during the tribulation. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Revelation 14:6 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Revelation 14:7 Paul said ...Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Now here is an angel preaching the everlasting gospel, another gospel, so what Paul said must be rightly divided. Peter was not preaching another gospel and was not accursed. Peter was commanded to preach the gospel to Israel. Israel's gospel at the time was not the same as Paul's and for a time overlapped. God by each gospel, given by each Peter and Paul, through Israel and the Gentiles, was reconciling heaven and earth to himself.
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