Forums

  1. Worthy Welcome

    1. Worthy Welcome

      Shalom! Welcome to Worthy Christian Forums, introduce yourself and join our Christian community!

      31,620
      posts
    2. Seekers Lounge

      Guests feel free to post any questions you may have!

      2,030
      posts
  2. Outer Court

    1. Outer Court

      A place for nonbelievers to ask questions and interact with Christians.

      49,052
      posts
    2. Worthy Q & A for Seekers

      ... for seekers asking serious questions.  We'll try our best to respond.  Please just one question at a time.

      105
      posts
    3. 93,866
      posts
    4. Soapbox Debate

      One on one discussions on specific topics! Nobody may reply, or start topics but everyone may read the discussions!

      629
      posts
  3. Inner Court

    1. Study Group

      Join our online studies! Only those part of the ministry can start topics in this forum, although anyone may reply to any topic started!

      5,863
      posts
    2. Worthy Q & A

      Ask a question, members can vote on the best answer.

      307
      posts
    3. 341,253
      posts
    4. 72,501
      posts
    5. Doctrinal Questions

      Have a doctrinal question? Ask it in this forum

      142,986
      posts
    6. Controversial Issues

      Anyone may read these forums, but you must be an Junior Member [100 posts] to join the controversy!

      115,488
      posts
    7. 42,757
      posts
    8. Prayer Requests

      Submit your prayer requests, and intercede for others who need prayer.

      19,816
      posts
    9. Praises

      What can you praise God about today?

      17,857
      posts
  4. Current News

    1. 28,299
      posts
    2. 58,948
      posts
    3. 26,533
      posts
    4. 90,606
      posts
    5. Christian News

      Discussions of news directly related to Christians and the persecution of Christians.

      6,037
      posts
    6. Finance

      Discussions of finance, stock market, and other financial matters.

      945
      posts
    7. 13,967
      posts
  5. Upper Room

    1. 251,812
      posts
    2. Absolutely Positive!

      Uplifting and Encouraging Discussions!

      15,596
      posts
    3. Humor! Need a good laugh?

      Share humorous jokes and stories

      44,908
      posts
    4. Testimonies

      Post your testimonials here!

      4,465
      posts
    5. 11,984
      posts
    6. 2,351
      posts
    7. 8,951
      posts
    8. 5,815
      posts
    9. Worthy Chatter Discussions

      Discussions pertaining to Worthy Chat -- our online live chat room!

      695
      posts
    10. 2,637
      posts
  6. Videos

    1. General

      All videos are will be reviewed before being published on WCF.

      3,428
      posts
    2. Comedy

      All videos are will be reviewed before being published on WCF.

      973
      posts
    3. Biblical Topics

      All videos are will be reviewed before being published on WCF.

      2,715
      posts
    4. Christian Music

      All videos are will be reviewed before being published on WCF.

      3,337
      posts
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      74,996
    • Most Online
      2,935

    Newest Member
    Peasant
    Joined
  • Join our Christian Community

    Join our Community

  • Latest Posts

    • I use the NASB (1972 only) for reading and studying, but oddly I prefer to listen to the KJV.  I voted for the ESV for I'm thinking it is the closer of the others to the NASB
    • So:
      After the Parousia of Jesus at night, and the terror it will instill upon the wicked world, (and this is aptly described in a single verse in Isaiah: 17:14 In the evening, sudden terror! Before the morning, they are gone!) When He alights upon the earth and the 144,000 are "mustered" with Jesus on the newly cleft Mount of Olives from Zechariah 14:4 (as per Acts 1:11).  (Again Isaiah sees this in chapter 13: The LORD Almighty is mustering an army for war.  Read 13:2-6 and 5:26.  I think Isaiah saw the 144,000 there.)  ~ Three Angels warn the world, the first with the eternal Gospel which will convert many who never heard it before, the second in summary, and the third who warns the wicked -- THEN the wicked go into hiding: AND this is perfectly preserved in Rev 6:15 because it comes after sun/moon/star sign and the second earthquake of the sixth Seal. The "sealing" of the 144,000 happens after they are mustered.  It is during this time that I think Jesus goes to that dimensional realm of Paradise, where He went with the thief on His Right on the day He was crucified, to sound the Last Trumpet and so resurrects the Dead in Christ when He calls out (John 5:25).   Then He comes with them (1Th 3:13) to gather the Elect who remain and are left from all over the world, (Mt 24:31, 1Th 4:17, Rev 14:14-16) east to west I would add as my opinion, and every eye will see Him.   And we are taken up (paralambano - to receive our inheritance, also used when someone "receives" Christ into their heart)  My wife had a prophetic dream years ago when I started this inquiry of mine.  She "knew" before she saw Him, that He was on the earth.  The spiritual adviser we knew then, said that knowledge was the mark of a prophetic dream.  My wife then described seeing Jesus come, and from the vantage point of her dream it was from the east, which didn't strike her as anything worth noting, just the setting as she described it immediately told me it was from the east - and she had no way of knowing how this fit with Scripture - and she described the feeling she had inside as beautiful and indescribably wonderful.  This exchange will not be painful I think.  Not all of us will die, and this exchange is not like dying.  But taking the word in 1Co 15:51, allasso, as such, leaves the world with inanimate bodies: they're "dead". In sequence fashion, only when both parts of the Harvest are in hand, does Jesus deliver them to Heaven, where John sees them before the Father, arrayed in white robes and holding palm branches (not harps) (and I want to know - where did they get all those palm fronds?) having been taken out of the Great Tribulation. The seventh Seal is broken, and there is silence for half an hour.     AM 8:3 "In that day," declares the Sovereign LORD, "the songs in the temple will turn to wailing. Many, many bodies--flung everywhere! Silence!" The world awakens with the dawn to dead bodies. The people they had sought to eliminate are now lifeless forms.  Imagine if you will that this exchange leaves bodies scattered all about - without a mark on them!   Now imagine as you will, that as Jesus begins to trample out the Wrath of God upon the world - the wicked begin to get their due and their fears are partially realized.  They don't understand, nor will they be able to comprehend, the ever-deepening pit in which they will be drawn into only to die in the end.  And the longer they hold on, the worse it will be. For Americans on the Day of the Lord, far removed from Israel, imagine if you will that the Yellowstone Caldera blows.  Think of Mount St. Helens on steroids, a thousand-fold stronger!  This catastrophe, when mountains "smoke", would wipe out their food supply in the Midwest and short out their electrical grid over most of the country.  What the wicked had deprived us during the Great Tribulation, food and power - will not be denied them for even longer.  Their struggle to stay alive will be a lot tougher when they come out of their shelters - but the Wrath of God is only just beginning.   I don't give them much chance at all to surviving it, in fact, I know they won't. But when the Day of the Lord dawns, and they find the bodies, won't the wicked also be shocked?  Here are those pesky Christians who hadn't taken the mark.  Their Lord has come and gone - and they're dead!  Why, 'If He did that to them, what is He going to do to us?' they might cry.  And those foolish Christians who took the mark will assemble in their church buildings and wail and moan.  Theirs is a terrible end; they were so close - they had a hope of Heaven, and now they get to live and die in Hell on earth. Yes, the rich and powerful will survive the catastrophe of the Day of the Lord.  They will hunker down in their bunkers and maybe come out later, but their lives won't be as comfortable as they were.  The effect of the first Trumpet alone will have them clawing for survival for a year or more until they can rebuild their infrastructure and with their will power, bend creation to their liking... but then sometime later, the second Trumpet will sound, and all their work will be for naught. And the 144,000?  During the Day of the Lord, you can read what they do in Joel 2, as Jesus tramps out His Wrath in Israel.  I wouldn't want to be there...
    • You know, the thing here is that when the wicked hide from the paraousia of Jesus -- as a meteor shower (falling stars) acts as the celestial fireworks to what a friend of mine described as a dimensional rift, and I immediately thought he was onto something - when the night sky scrolls back and the earth is pierced by the Light of God - just the opposite as to how the precursor sun/moon/star sign starts out with clouds darkening the earth at the brightest part of day: noon -- their imminent destruction is NOT NEXT. Nor will all of them die in the ensuing firestorm/volcanic eruption (mountains will "smoke") which affects a third of the earth on the following daylight portion of the Day of the Lord. I'm pretty sure they will "make it" through the Day of the Lord if they're not in Israel for those two battles that happen that Day: one around and in Jerusalem and the other to its South around Bethlehem in the "Valley of Decision."   I'm also pretty sure there will be "church services" going on too... for all those left behind like the five foolish virgins. Reading the sixth Seal's sequence of events and the companion, parallel account to it in Revelation 14, I do not have to change what I wrote, - the sequence-of-events I assembled and produced for you is correct - but I do have to change how I envisioned it.   I had always thought the hiding took place during the previous day when the foreboding darkness took hold; as the progressive cloud cover enveloped the earth.  I'm sure the cable news boys will ALL be in panic over that.  Can you imagine the coverage?  That is when I thought the powerful would hide.  Not so.  And have you been watching what's going on?  The rich are in a frenzy to build these things, these underground bunkers.  Read about it here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bunker-builders-anticipate-lucrative-trumpocalypse-932748 - it's up on the DrudgeReport. No.  Their destruction is not next. Our Rescue is. And that Rescue, the Rapture, is not what everyone might expect.  In fact, I think the word Paul uses in 1Co 15:51 - allasso - has a double meaning.  It can mean to "change" or "exchange".  Now I have read commentaries and most all prefer "change", however, that does not answer Jesus' cryptic answer to the Disciples about where "we" go in Luke 17:37: as dead bodies where the birds of prey go.  (Various Bible versions use different birds here, but even great predator birds are not above eating carrion.) Now we don't like that idea, of discarding our bodies.  We are quite in love with ourselves.  But God does not need to reconstitute bodies which no longer exist in the ground to resurrect the Dead.  But as Paul says, what was planted in one form (buried) rises in another.  So the old form is no longer needed. Likewise with those who remain and are left - which is an important qualification IF you look at the Rapture as happening after the shortened Great Tribulation - their bodies are also not needed in order for us to be rid of flesh and blood which cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.  So what if we exchange our bodies for new ones and the old ones, no longer needed, are simply discarded?  Would not that answer where we "go" in such mysterious and cryptic fashion? Question:
      Could these new, immortal, and imperishable bodies be the "places" God has prepared for us from John 14:3?
    • Lol sounds like me😁👍 Have you read the book, cant remember by whom and title(!!) but its about Joseph and the Egyptian evidence pointing to who it was and statues, writings etc. It was very interesting reading especially with the generally accepted known Pharoahs and this authors thoughts about who ruled when and the spellings of their names etc. 
    • I agree with this. Probably my favorite preacher outside my own denomination is Paul Washer. People need a straight message today for there is no time now for sleeping in church. It is time now too trim the lamps and ensure we have God's Spirit abiding in us, and the ONLY evidence fr the presence of the Spirit of God is a life lived in harmony with God's, not man's, standards. And yes, the scriptures are the only basis for faith and practice. But a pope? No thanks. I can listen all day to a preacher who will encourage and direct us to the Bible and to live in accordance to holiness and the righteousness of Christ. I can not abide one who instructs or teaches according to the commandments and doctrines of man. The former is directing man to live in surrender to the chastisement of a loving Father. The latter directing us to live under the slavish control of man's philosophy and vain deceit. After the rudiments of man, and not God.
  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

    • 7Dove77

      Ecc,10;10>  Solomon said,better tools are profitable -like cutting a tree down with a dull ax or chainsaw,Wisdom gets the most done with the Least Effort...Amen
      · 0 replies
    • Leerah

      I had a rough few days and this beautiful scripture just came to mind:
      "I myself will prepare your way, leveling mountains and hills. I will break down bronze, gates and smash their iron bars. I will give you treasures from dark, secret places"
      -Isaiah 45:2    
      · 0 replies
    • RonNicky

      as the deer panteth for the water
      so my soul longeth after thee
      You alone are my hearts desire
      and I long to worship  thee
      You are my strenght, my shield
      to You alone may my spirit yield
      You alone are my hearts desire
      And I long to worship thee....

      · 1 reply
    • RonNicky

      Dont allow any one to bring you down..

      · 1 reply
  • Popular Contributors