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    • 35 Jesus heard that they had put him out, and finding him, He said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?" 36 He answered, "Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?" 37 Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you." 38 And he said, "Lord, I believe." And he worshiped Him. 39 And Jesus said, "For judgment I came into this world, so that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind." 40 Those of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these things and said to Him, "We are not blind too, are we?" 41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains."
    • If we heed our Lord, He also told us to be on guard against false prophets and deception. The other extreme, which sadly much of the Church is following today due to the 'emergent church' influence, is to downplay prophecy and doctrinal error. Mat 24:4-5
      (4)  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
      (5)  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Mat 24:11
      (11)  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.  Mat 24:24-25
      (24)  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
      (25)  Behold, I have told you before.  1Ti 4:1
      (1)  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;  2Ti 3:13
      (13)  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.  2Pe 2:1-2
      (1)  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
      (2)  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.  2Pe 3:3-4
      (3)  Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
      (4)  And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.  Jud 1:3-4
      (3)  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
      (4)  For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.  So yes, there are devices of the enemy that we are not to be ignorant of.
    • I guess it's possible that such could be the case.  We know that there have been other "world" kingdoms so what's so special about those seven heads?  I think it has to do with the sons of Israel. The beast I see as an evil angel, not a man, since he comes up out of the abyss.  Do you know of anything in scripture that suggests that anything other than evil spirit beings inhabit the abyss?  I haven't found anything.  I understand that people say "who is like the beast" so you might be inclined to think that they actually see him, but it is also said that they worshiped the dragon.  I see it as a proxy situation having to do with the interplay between the evil trio (Satan, the beast, the false prophet).  Worship of one is worship of all. I think the question needs to be asked, "Why would Satan give his power, throne, and great authority to anyone else?"  I think he does so for the purpose of entering the false prophet and deceiving the world by tapping into that power he just gave to the beast, hence the phrase "in the presence of the beast".  Being confined to the fleshly shell of the false prophet must limit his power so he temporarily gives it to the beast so he can access it.  I see the Satan possessed false prophet as the only human in the evil trio. And I agree with your earlier thought on the 10 horns.  I see them as evil angels who also have human counterparts. I think this is born in the fact that three of them (human) are torn out by the roots (destroyed, dead Daniel 7:8), while all ten (angelic) wage war against the Lamb (Rev 17:14).  
    • Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur Yom Kippur is "the tenth day of [the] seventh month"[5] (Tishrei) and is regarded as the "Sabbath of Sabbaths". Rosh Hashanah (referred to in the Torah as Yom Teruah) is the first day of that month according to the Hebrew calendar. On this day forgiveness of sins is also asked of God. Yom Kippur completes the annual period known in Judaism as the High Holy Days or Yamim Nora'im ("Days of Awe") that commences with Rosh Hashanah.   thanks for pointing that out Shiloh. Yes Yom Kipper= Day of Atonement comes after, but not far after. Yeah that makes sense then , that Christ Jesus was born around sukkot time (the first night).
    • I agree and I'm not opposed to this idea. I do think the fallen angels have kingdoms connected with them because in Daniel 10 we see them directly called the "the prince of Persia" or the "prince of Greece" who Gabriel and Michael fight with. These underworld agents are working behind the scenes but I wonder if they will take on a more physical form on earth. When I read things like, "the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast." in Rev 3:3 or “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” in Rev 13:4 it makes me think this king is beyond earthly like the pre-flood angels are described in extra-biblical sources. Every description of the anti-christ has him as more than just a human king. I think it's at least possible that this agent of the abyss is more than just a human. Isaiah 14:12  “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! If that is true then is it not also possible that his 7 heads and 10 horns are also part of the league of underworld angels? I'm not sure it's all the same angel since we see. I also wonder, in Rev 17:10-11 the term "fallen" has been regarded as kingdoms that have passed on in history but could it mean fallen in the Rev 9:1 sense? There does seem to be a succession of fallen angels in Rev 17:10 considering that the 7th and the 8th is from the abyss and going back to perdition. Also, if we connect these fallen angels to kingdoms, do they have to be historical or can they be angelic beast kingdoms that are combined at that latter time suggested in Rev 13:2 by the leading fallen arch-angel? Could John simply be referring to the progressive falling of these angels according to their judgment timeline throughout the tribulation? It's good to think out loud you might say and try these ideas on for size. I appreciate your feedback and ideas. Look at how closely Rev 12:3-4 texts aligns the 7 heads and 10 horns to his fallen angels.. Revelation 12:3-4  And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems.  (4)  His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.  
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      Encouragement for today. Blessings  
      Psalms 16:7-8 (NLT) I will bless the Lord who guides me;  even at night my heart instructs me. I know the Lord is always with me. I will not be shaken, for he is right beside me.
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    • Saved.One.by.Grace

      I'm getting tired of the constant battles and bickering.  To be clear, it is physically and mentally affecting me.  Why am I here?  Would I even be missed if I was gone?  I am losing my enthusiasm for interacting with fellow Christians here.  The anti-science thinking here is a bit much to take at times.
      I am thinking of confining myself to just Secret Societies in the Controversial section, Firearms and maybe Photography.  If people aren't interested in what I think and just what to change my thinking to theirs, what am I doing here?  They don't need me to validate their own opinions.  I value my time more than that.
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    • secularhermit  »  Willa

      Hi, willa! Good afternoon!
      I paid you this visit to tell you that, a week ago, I watched this type of parrots (
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