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    • No, OneLight, I am not a Jehovah’s Witness, but I am a witness for Jehovah. There is no room for the truth in whatever little box you want to put it in. The truth and understanding has nothing to do with denominations.  The truth has to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. Whether you see it or not, the bible is very clear about not following the traditions of men, and documented historical fact proves that Christmas, Easter and birthdays, among other things, are traditions of an ungodly people. If anyone genuinely wants to follow the Lord, and not their own path, then they will read and listen to the following links prayerfully. The History Of Easter.pdf is at the bottom of the page. The History of Birthdays    The History of Christmas Not keeping or partaking in the ungodly traditions of men, in and of themselves, does not make a person a true follower of Christ, alone. But it is a small part of taking up the cross and following Him. It’s part of dying to self.   The information in those 3 links is based on historical facts. I have nothing to do with any of the websites where those three links came from. I do not know the people that wrote the information at the links, and I had not heard of any of them before I found the links through Google. Also, I have not read anything else on these websites, therefore I don’t espouse to anything else they have written that you may find on there. These links are solely for the purpose of proving proof by historical fact that Christmas, Easter and birthday celebrations are not God given traditions, and in fact, are the machinations of a people that don’t love the Lord, but just want to live to please themselves and worship their false gods. There are many such writings on the internet for those who genuinely want the truth. It’s the Lord, not me, that says He is a jealous God and it’s the Lord that commands us to stay away from false idols. The fact that people so vehemently want to hold onto things that clearly have their roots in ungodliness, worshipping their flesh nature, just goes to prove where their hearts lie. Just try and take a person’s right to celebrate Christmas, Easter or birthdays off them and see what ugly beast rears its head. There was an error that I made in one of my earlier posts where I said “Secondly, don't you find it interesting that throughout the whole bible, there are only two birthday celebrations, and both of those for pagan royalty?”. A friend of mine has rightfully reminded me since my post, that there was in actual fact another mention of birthday celebrations in the bible. This one even more damning for those who say they follow the Lord, yet want to hold onto their birthday celebrations. There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job. That man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God, and turned away from evil. There were born to him seven sons and three daughters. His possessions also were seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen, five hundred female donkeys, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the children of the east. His sons went and held a feast in the house of each one on his birthday; and they sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them. It was so, when the days of their feasting had run their course, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned, and renounced God in their hearts.” Job did so continually. (Job 1:1-5 WEB) Verse 1 says “There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job. That man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God, and turned away from evil.” Job didn’t even go to his own children’s birthdays. On the contrary, each time his children celebrated one, when the partying was over, he would offer burnt offerings to God to try and hopefully cover their sin. If birthday celebrations were acceptable to God, don’t you think that Job would have been at his own children's birthdays? But no, he stayed well away, knowing that birthday celebrations were in fact ungodly. And where were all of Job’s children when they died? It turns out that on that day they were celebrating in the oldest brother’s house, and that day was more than likely the oldest brother's birthday based on verse 4 from the previous quote, communicating a reason why they would get together to eat and to drink wine. It fell on a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house, that there came a messenger to Job, and said, “The oxen were plowing, and the donkeys feeding beside them, and the Sabeans attacked, and took them away. Yes, they have killed the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” While he was still speaking, there also came another, and said, “The fire of God has fallen from the sky, and has burned up the sheep and the servants, and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” While he was still speaking, there came also another, and said, “The Chaldeans made three bands, and swept down on the camels, and have taken them away, yes, and killed the servants with the edge of the sword; and I alone have escaped to tell you.” While he was still speaking, there came also another, and said, “Your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother’s house, and behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young men, and they are dead. I alone have escaped to tell you.” Then Job arose, and tore his robe, and shaved his head, and fell down on the ground, and worshiped. He said, “Naked I came out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return there. Yahweh gave, and Yahweh has taken away. Blessed be Yahweh’s name.” In all this, Job didn’t sin, nor charge God with wrongdoing. (Job 1:13-22 WEB) Birthdays, even if someone is not given to drinking much wine, is a fleshly celebration that is all about “ME”. This is my day, people are going to wish me happy birthday, people are going to give me presents to honour me on my day, I am going to get the attention, the focus is on me because this is my day. You could be as wicked a person that has ever lived, yet on your birthday, the cake and candles come out, people honour you with their lips, even singing you a happy birthday song. How many people in this world are horrid, rebellious, ungodly people, yet on that one day a year, oh how they get honoured. Many parents do it with their rebellious children. Their children are ungodly, disrespectful little beasts, but once again on that day, they get their presents and their cake and candles, they get all their special wishes, yet to turn around and cry and chuck a tantrum because they didn’t get the present they wanted. I am not saying this is the case with everyone, but I am saying that birthdays for everyone are a day of having themselves honoured. How many husbands abuse their wives, how many wives abuse their husbands, how many children disrespect their parents, how many parents abuse their children, but yet, come their birthdays, or Father’s Day, or Mother’s Day, or Christmas, or Easter, or Valentine’s Day, for example, those same obnoxious people are given a place of stature and honour. Many times it is given to them out of fear and guilt, and out of pure tradition. Not every time, but on many, many occasions it is like that. People honour each other in their wickedness, yet the Lord calls on people to “repent of their sinfulness and wicked ways”. The world and its worldly ways does exactly the opposite of what the Lord does and the opposite of what He commands those who are His, to do also.  Whether it be birthdays, Christmas, Easter, or any other ungodly man made tradition, the Lord calls us out of those things, He calls us out of following the world and He calls us to follow Him.   “To the angel of the assembly in Laodicea write: “The Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of God’s creation, says these things: “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, and have gotten riches, and have need of nothing;’ and don’t know that you are the wretched one, miserable, poor, blind, and naked; I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may become rich; and white garments, that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. As many as I love, I reprove and chasten. Be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, then I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with me. He who overcomes, I will give to him to sit down with me on my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.” (Rev 3:14-22 WEB)
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    • 2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV) 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. It is the lifting of the veil that you were blinded by to see the Light  of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL OF CHRIST.   Now you can see clearly, the entirety of the whole gospel which entails, death, fear, future and promises. 
    • that is what causes a Child of the King to live like a pauper---- when we hold on to a sin its like an anchor in out Life of faith- it holds us back from having the abundant life that Jesus wants us to have. So many of us live like beggars because of our one or two cherished sins when we should be living like conquerers like God intended us to. I am not talking about monetary blessing- I am talking about a close fellowship with the Lord-- that sin will keep us 6 feet away from the Lord when we should be in his arms~~~~~ 
    • Shabbat shalom, Marilyn. That's fine, but just know that IF you are wrong about the WHERE, then the rest of this thread is useless and a waste of time.
    • That's coming from movements like Joseph Prince, the once saved you cannot ever be accounted for sin anymore. Obviously, those propbably have torn out the Revelation 2 & 3 chapters where our Lord Jesus rebuked five of the seven Churches in Asia for sins they were doing.
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