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    • fixerupper I'll explain this.  It's long, but please read.  I'm showing you how the clues are scattered, and you just have to put them all together.   DANIEL CHAPTER 2 - IN THE 2ND YEAR OF KING NEB'S REIGN Daniel 2:1   And in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep brake from him. Daniel prophesied during the whole reign of Babylon at various times, starting from the 2nd year of King Nebuchadnezzar (also called Belshazzar) by interpreting his dream of the statue. Daniel showed King Neb (Belshazzar) that his kingdom would not go on forever, and others will rise after him.   The statue starts with Babylon (the head), and goes all the way down to the feet, ...the 10 toes (end time kingdom) At the time of this prophecy, all was future because it was during the beginning of Babylon's reign. You know the story of the statue.  I wont post those scriptures. Notice now how chapter 2 was interpreted in the 2nd year of Babylon's reign, and chapter 7 was prophesied in the 1st year?   DANIEL CHAPTER 7 - VISION GIVEN DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF KING NEB (AKA BELSHAZZAR) Daniel 7:1   In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

        Daniel 7:2   Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

        Daniel 7:3   And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

        Daniel 7:4   The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. Daniel is seeing the next King to come after King Neb's kingdom is finished.  I already explained that it was DARIUS, the MEDE, who made the decree that men worship the God of Daniel.  He was the proud king who humbled himself (wings clipped).  God is the one depicting Darius as an eagle.  All these kings and kingdoms are depicted as beasts, because it's like a jungle out there, where the strong eat the weak.  But in the end, Darius was given the heart of a man (not of a beast)

        Daniel 7:5   And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. This bear has 3 ribs in his mouth.  The 3 ribs are three kings before him.  He is raised up on one side because he inherits his kingdom, and not through conquering.  This bear is the fourth king of Persia.  Part of the puzzle is solved here, as prophesied during the reign of the Mede's now after Babyon's gone ;  Daniel 11:1   Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.

        Daniel 11:2   And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
        During the reign of Medo/Persia, and specifically, when the fourth king of Persia comes, Medo/Persia will be taken by Alexander.
        Daniel 11:3   And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will. Alexander the Great - Grecia

        Daniel 11:4   And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those. Alexander was not conquered.  He died and his kingdom was divided between his four generals. continue/...Dan 7
       Daniel 7:6   After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
        Here's the LEOPARD - ALEXANDER.  His Kingdom was left to the 4 heads.  Out of one of these 4 generals, the Roman empire came up.  The he goat is the Leopard.  It's the same one.   This helps understand the statue.  The kingdom of Brass.  After Babylon four beasts arise 1. Medo 2. Persia 3. Greecia then skips to; 4. End time Rome.
        Daniel 7:7   After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
            DANIEL CHAPTER 8 - VISION GIVEN DURING THE THIRD YEAR OF KING NEB (AKA BELSHAZZAR) Daniel 8:1   In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first. Daniel 8:3   Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last. (ram with 2 horns) = Medo/Persia (horns = kings) = 2 kings.  Daniel 8:4   I saw the ram  pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great. Medo/Persia was a mighty strong kingdom.

        Daniel 8:5   And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. He Goat = Greecia 1 horn = one king.  Alexander the Great.  He conquered so fast his feet didn't touch the ground.  The notable horn shows his strength.
        Daniel 8:6   And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
        Daniel 8:7   And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. Alexander (Greecia) conquers Medo/Persia. These all gel together to form a clearer picture, because more details are given.  Now we can understand the statue with more clarity. The fourth beast is the same as the 10 toes on the statue.  The end time kingdom, and the other beasts, we know who they represent and how they progress to the end. I hope this helps.
    • I think you are looking at it from the wrong point of view. What you say "its the same each week with a couple of different readings that are set by the church(es) for the year (in my understanding) and i think to myself where is the spiritual growth here?" That stuff that's the same every week is called worshipping God. At our Church there are paraders that are said every week. That's because we are there to worship God. We are not there to be entertained. We are there to give ourselves to the Lord, and we are not there to say what are you going to give me.  Yep, Catholic is not a denomination it's a world to identify one true faith. The universal faith. The Orthodox Churches call themselves as such because they view their faith as the original Catholic faith therefore "returning" to Orthodoxy. In most cases there is so very little difference between the two that they can receive communion together. 
    • I said that to dozens of people while Obama was in office, and the main reason why I didn't vote for Hillary.  Islamic terrorism is a more serious issue than abortion today.  
    • While abortion is never listed as the "main" reason, it is the only non-negotiable issue for most people.   I have never known anyone that said "I will not vote for that person due to their stance on terrorism" or some other such thing, but I hear all the time "I will not vote for that person due to their stance on abortion". 
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