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    • Proof in the Bible about a pre-trib rapture ___NO____ Proof in the Bible about a post-trib rapture ___YES ____ It really is that simple !!!!
    • And Rapture comes from Harpazo............
    • They do not even understand the "ALL ISRAEL" will be saved scriptures. They think it means all the Church will be saved, but in the end it means that ALL Israel will be saved after the Gentiles time is fulfilled. All Israel being Saved doesn't mean all people of Israel will be saved, it means Israel as a Nation turns back to God. There are now Messianic Jews, always have been some here an there, most who live in Israel and turn to Chris Jesus are castigated by their families, they are despised and hated. Jews do not hate Christians per se, they hate other Jews who become Christians. This is what Paul meant by "All Israel" will be saved. He is speaking about that day that the nation of Israel is turned back unto God. Just as Daniels 70th Week Decree prophesies will happen, just as Zechariah 12:10 prophesies will happen, just as Paul promises will happen, just as many prophets prophesied will happen. 

      No Law can justify any man/men anywhere. The very reason Israel was considered unjust is because they turned to false gods and didn't keep the Law, which no one can. Israel then refused to accept the Lamb of God, the express image of God, one Jesus Christ, their promised Salvation or coming "SEED". Yeshua (Jesus) means Salvation. So when Paul says all Israel will be saved he is in NO WAY saying that everyone in the "Church" is going to be saved. He is saying Israel as a nation is going to one day turn back unto God, just as Malachi 4:5-6 promises, and in the very passage in which he speaks about this. 

      Romans 11 starts off with Paul asking the question has Israel been lost, Paul says God forbid, God has kept 7000 men ( I think this represents the fullness of Israel repenting at some point, not 7000 men) who have not bowed the knee to Baal. He then says there is a Remnant according to grace, and that it can never be of works, if so it could not be Grace. Then Paul says God has given Israel the spirit of slumber even unto this Day.....Now 2000 years later even unto this day also. Paul then tells them why Israel was cast aside, it answers everything we need to understand the whereto/wherefore and all the WHYS !!

      KEY BELOW.............That solves the question 

      19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

      23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

      25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (Israel and the Gentiles are Two different entities by Paul's own Words)

      26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

      So what does this passage mean/imply ? That Israel (branches) was broken off because of their UNBELIEF and will be Grafted back in when they BELIEVE AGAIN !! BOOM. So when does Israel believe again ? When the Fullness of the Gentiles is come in, PLAIN AS DAY !! And then what happens ? All Israel, or Israel as a Nation repents as a Nation and turns back unto God/Messiah, just as Zechariah 12:10 prophesies. 

      It is true, all of us are Gods children, in Christ Jesus, BUT for anyone to say that Paul when he said that there is neither Jew nor Greek was referring to the nation of Israel as having no place in future prophecy and is only the "Church" is people ignoring Paul's very words right here in this very passage. He says WHEN THE FULLNESS OF THE GENTILES BE COME IN ! This shows there will be TWO ENTITIES !! All Israel will be Saved, when the Time of the Gentiles is come in.

      So Israel is a separate entity from the Gentile nations. We as individuals are all the same, children of Faith/Belief on/in a God who justifies us BY FAITH, but Israel and the Gentile Nations have separate callings, Israel brought forth the Messiah, the Gentile Nations brought forth the Gospel of the Messiah to the World, the Church will be Raptured to Heaven when the Gentiles time has been Fulfilled, then all Israel will be Saved, as a NATION, not all Jews will be saved, that can only happen via Jesus Christs blood. But a large majority of Israel will turn to God, and Israel as a Nation turns back to God. Not ALL ISRAEL Turned from God, there were still Godly men and prophets like Daniel who kept Gods commandments and they were Holy men before God, but ALL ISRAEL turned from God, as a NATION..........And likewise all Israel will turn back unto God in like manner. 

      Thus ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED.........When they believe in God again as a Nation. This proves the Gentiles and Israel are separate entities, and is the number one Mistake all post-tribbers make. When the Fullness of the Gentiles is come, they/we will be Raptured (I hope people don't think we will just lose our power of prayer and Israel will take over, THAT'S SILLY). and then All Osrael will come to God as a Nation.   
    • 1 Corinthians 15 is indeed linked to the events of 1 Thess.4, as BOTH Scriptures speaking of the RESURRECTION ON THE LAST DAY OF THIS WORLD. Per 1 Thess.4: 1. The "asleep" saints are RESURRECTED FIRST, and Jesus brings them with Him as He DESCENDS FROM HEAVEN 2. The saints still alive on earth are 'changed' at the 'twinkling of an eye' to the "spiritual body", and are then gathered with the "asleep" saints and Jesus COMING FROM HEAVEN. 3. Then all go to JERUSALEM ON EARTH to reign over the nations for 1,000 years.   What your Pre-trib Rapture doctors forgot to tell you is that the resurrection of the 'alseep' saints can ONLY OCCUR on the FINAL DAY OF THIS WORLD WHEN THE RESURRECTION IS SET TO HAPPEN (John 6:39-54; John 11:24; John 5:28-29). That means NO RAPTURE UNTIL THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION (a simple Biblical fact and Biblical doctrine).  
    • JESUS CHRIST IS GOD, THE ALMIGHTY. JESUS CHRIST IS THE 'I AM' The name Jesus is only a translation from Greek Iesous, which comes from the Hebrew Yehowshuah, which means 'Yah is Salvation'! So you cannot separate JESUS CHRIST apart from The FATHER.
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      Hi, I'm back. I Read Ezra's answer to someone in the RCC. Ezra s right on point regarding baptism. This is going to be very interesting conversing with rccs on biblical topics. I left the RCC, was baptized in the Jordan River on my first 2011 trip to Israel after Mike died....and my dad says... Why? Once wasnt  good enough for ya? I laughed, dad, you could have lied about my infant baptism, i was to young and don't remember and being baptized as an adult is on outward sign to show others I'm a follower and believer in Christ. My dad's 86, in poor health and I've given him the gospel message many different ways and times, he's still lost but I still pray! He has until his last breathe to repent and trust Jesus, amen! I know heavy topic, no reply needed.😃
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