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    • Greetings Just a Mirror What I am saying is that the 144,000 are those who follow the Lamb, regardless of Jew or Gentile, and they are the only ones sealed with the Father's name on their foreheads.  How God will provoke Israel to jealousy, is through the resurrection of all the saints combined at the Coming.... Because Israel rejected Christ, his Word went out to the gentiles and they received him, therefore taking part in the resurrection FIRST whereas it should of gone to Israel if they believed. I am not ignorant of the fact that there were Jews who believed in Christ during his days, and these will also be in the resurrection of the saints, but concerning Israel as a nation, of all generations, the majority will not be bought into the kingdom in a changed spiritual body, but in "THE FLESH".  That's the difference.  The majority of saints who will rule with Christ are gentiles who received Christ and his teachings, and found worthy at Christ's coming. The remnants of Israel chosen to be bought back in the flesh will not be jealous with a bitterness, but a godly jealousy, a good one, and together with the resurrected saints all will rejoice in the Lord.  I cannot say the same however for the remnants of Israel that are rejected from entering the kingdom, as it's only by election.  I suspect there will be bitterness and weeping and gnashing of the teeth for them as the scriptures tell us.  
        No, I am not claiming to be part of the 144,000, for to do this I would be exalting myself.  I take the lowest seat, and pray that I be accepted in the resurrection of the saints and make it through the tribulation without fault.  I take my salvation with trembling and fear, and do not claim for the prize before the race is over, and even though I have all faith to endure what is coming, and prepared with all knowledge, I can only pray that God make me strong with all perseverance, and thank him for showing us his truth, and deliver our souls from all the evil that is coming.   Yes, but the truth is such a beautiful thing, and according to the scriptures nothing can compare to it.  It's our foundation and comes before works, and helping people should just come naturally. Blessings to you also my brother.  
    • Blessings Lady  I've joined in here 3 pages late & have not read the replies,perhaps someone else may have mentioned what I will offer?   I believe the gallup poll still has America around 77% Christian.....that would reflect a "majority" & it could be safe to say the USA IS a Christian Nation or is it? Well,I know it is MORE Christian than any other country and it would be nice to turn back the hands of time and get back to our roots....which was indeed founded on Christianity & the Word of God.....it is simply a matter of putting forth some effort in researching History,a bit of study & a lot of due diligence to learn what hopeful dreams AMERICA was supposed to make come true for the man that wanted to live according to the Way God says one should live,worshipping & glorifying Him!One Nation UNDER God!     But we cannot turn back the hands of time ,we can only do our best to make a better tomorrow & every day is the first day of the rest of our lives,our HOPE is ALWAYS in CHRIST  Perhaps it would be best to turn of the TV(news),log off the computers,forget about youtube & facebook & walk out the front door to engage in real life with real people? I do & you know what I see? A beautiful out pouring of Gods Spirit on America....I see many young people coming to Christ,I hear the Name of Jesus proclaimed,I witness love,kindness,Miracles,goodness & Godliness more so than ever before........you see,you have to interact in society to really get a feel for what is going on in this Nation.....we only hear about the 2 horrible plane crashes in the past 6 months but never the hundreds of thousands of safe landings each week,,,,,,     Just be accountable for what WE DO & SAY.......Be the Image of Christ,boast for Him,provoke others to jealousy,Praise His Name proudly,spread the Gospel to every creature,lets make a better tomorrow and tell ALL MEN Jesus offer of Eternity in Paradise                       With love-in Christ,Kwik
    • Shalom, Sister. Who says that the resurrected are "spirit?" We get our BODIES back! And, they shall be like unto His glorious body (Phil. 3:21)! Sure, Paul said that they would be "spiritual bodies" (Greek: soomata pneumatikos), but that's in contrast to "NATURAL bodies" (Greek: soomata psuchikos). These words mean that we will not be resurrected as mere "air-breathing bodies," but as "wind-blasting bodies!" If we're going to be like the Master, remember how His body was! Luke 24:36-43
      36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
      37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
      38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
      39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
      40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
      41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
      42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
      43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
      KJV So, His resurrected body has "flesh and bones"; He said that He wasn't a "spirit"; He could be seen; He could be handled and felt; He could talk to them, and He could eat food! Now, granted, there were some things that were different about this new body He had become, but that's because He is incorruptible and immortal! It's because He will be a SUPER body, able to appear in rooms with the doors being shut! I also believe that He will have the ability to appear with His normal appearance (like the "gardener" Mary saw, John 20:15) but will also have the ability to appear as bright as the noonday sun with eyes like burning flames and glowing clothes, whiter than any bleach on earth could whiten them (Matthew 17:2; Mark 9:2-3; Luke 9:29; Revelation 1:13-16). But, He's a body nonetheless. Now, can such a body reproduce? I don't know, but then, if you're honest, neither do you. Did you know that there's a passage of Scripture (Psalm 45:9) that suggests that the Messiah as King of Israel will have a Queen? And, I DON'T mean the "church," either!
    • Well then you must be deriving your theology from somewhere else.  All those who are justified by grace through faith are righteous with the righteousness of Christ (2 Cor 5:21). For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.  
    • Man, I sure didn't mean to kill the thread....
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