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    • Finally God`s glory is removed from creation and it comes under bondage of corruption, groaning and labouring. (Rom. 8: 21 & 22) This removal of God`s glory is represented by the cherubim at the east of the garden, covering it. We know from the prophet Ezekiel that it is through the east (gate of the temple) that the Lord`s glory will come. `Afterwards he brought me to the gate, the gate that faces towards the east. And behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east. His voice was like the sound of many waters; and the earth shone with His glory.` (Ez. 43: 2) And this glory is of Christ, the Messiah coming to deliver Israel from its enemies, and set up Israel as the ruler over the earth. This is in the millennium.   So to me, I see that although Gen. 3 is a historical narrative there is much in there that God would have us appreciate through types and pictorial representations. When we place Christ as the focus, His character and God`s purposes through Him, then we gain the Father`s perspective. Marilyn.
    • Christ`s pre-eminence - in the midst. `The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.` (Gen. 2: 9) Christ has the knowledge of `good and evil.` (Gen. 3: 22)                                                  Christ made all things `good.` That is His divine nature - life. (Gen. 1) Thus I see that the two trees, although present, are also a pictorial representation of Christ in His pre-eminent position in the garden - in the midst. To obey Him, Adam & Eve would receive of His goodness, His divine nature, (life) whereas to disobey Him, brings the knowledge of good and evil, leading to death.   The `flaming sword,` is I believe another pictorial representation. It shows that God`s holiness bars anyone from receiving His divine nature while sinful. `...holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.` (Heb. 12: 14)   So as we read the narrative we see that Adam and Eve disobey God by heeding the `hissing, lies` of Satan through the serpent, and eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The fruit does not contain the `knowledge` but the consequences of disobeying the Lord brings about the knowledge of good and evil. God then reveals how this problem of sin will be resolved. The `seed` of the woman, the manifestation of Christ as man, (Gal.3: 29) will deal with Satan, the serpent. Christ`s blood will be the price to redeem man from sin. God reveals this through the shedding of animal`s blood to make the tunics for Adam and Eve. (Gen. 3: 21)  
    • So this is how I interpret Gen. 3 with the focus of God the Father revealing Christ to us.  I believe Gen. 3 is a historical narrative with some parts needing more explanation - eg. the serpent talking, the two trees, the flaming sword, and the cherubim at the east gate.   Adam, a type of Christ. ` Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.` (Rom. 5: 14) Adam, the father of all mankind, was given dominion over the earth by God. (Gen. 1: 28) Christ, the `last Adam,` (1 Cor. 15: 45) the `life-giving spirit` to those who receive Him, was given dominion and authority in heaven and earth. (Matt. 28: 18,  Eph. 1: 20 & 21,  Rev. 5: 12)   So we see that right at the beginning God gave man dominion of the earth, however as we read more of God`s word we see that God gave His Son, greater dominion - authority and power in heaven and earth. Genesis is the true story of God`s dealing with man, yet it highlights the pre-eminence of God`s Son through the use of `types.` And here Adam is a type of Christ, - Christ, the one who would give true life, and have the greater dominion.    
    • Hi Shiloh, My thoughts on interpreting Genesis chapter 3. I believe that the most important principle in studying God`s word is that -`God`s Word reveals Christ, His character and God`s purposes through Him.` `And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27) It is the Father`s great delight to reveal His Son to us. This He does through various symbols, types, shadows etc using creation and manmade objects. All these help us to come to understand more of Christ, His deity, His character, and why He came from heaven to earth. The Father desires that Christ may in all things have the pre-eminence. (Col. 1: 18) We need to understand this and place this as a focus when reading God`s word, otherwise other agenda`s take precedence - ie. us, or Israel, or the world being restored....All these are within God`s plan however it all comes, I believe under Christ being pre-eminent. As we read Genesis we see that it is a historical narrative, (as Shiloh also believes); it reveals how sin mars creation, and how Christ was manifest as a man to pay the price for man`s redemption, plus regaining possession and restoration of creation. It is the problem and solution in a nut shell from which all of God`s word unfolds in greater detail. Next I will show how I interpret Gen. 3 with the focus of God the Father revealing Christ to us.
    • My point was to share why these false prophets keep getting rapture (caught up) wrong, it happens but not in sequence they think. When people ask questions or call something "Rapture Thoughts," is not all views allowed?: "What do you guys think? Anyone have any thoughts about the details of the rapture?" I am fine with people having belief in Pre-Trib Rapture, I am not in here to debate them. I am offering my thoughts according to Scripture. If there is offense over my words, take it up with the One who wrote Matthew 24:29-31, and 2 Thessalonians 4:16-17, not me.  I happen to believe the closest thing to Rapture happens after Jesus appears on clouds according to these passages:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn (Revelation 1:7), and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory (Revelation 19:11-16). 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matthew 24:29-31). "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)  But I have never berated, or ridiculed someone who believes in a Pre-Trib Rapture. In fact, I hope they are right about missing out on the Trib, believe me I prefer that if it were so, but elsewhere I have shared why I do not hold the Rapturist view (Revelation 13:7, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 7:1-11, and the verses I have shared).  I think we should be able to share our different views without being threatened, arguing, and causing offense with each other. I actual recently watched a video End Times, Amazon.com, with Tim Lehaye, and I was fascinated by his thought, "The Tribulation will causes the Jews to confess Jesus at long last."   
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