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    • BTW- As a note, this man never ever asked to see a picture nor description of the lady  he was to soon marry. And, she never asked for one of him. A year of cyber romance was built much like a pen pal relationship of old might have been. The meeting at San Antonio River Walk hit a snag when the meeting point was unavailable. Seems we had picked a weekend of a rock and roll group's reunion tour concert, and places were jammed. Great eh? Anyway it was  a bit like one of those silly romance movies plot. Complete with - "are you the one I'm looking for" and  a moment of "starting a new life" too. The two songs played out even in that first meeting. Praises and thanks to God for the fun of it all. In the midst of life's very hard knocks, extremely hard ones, came  an opportunity  for love to flourish yet again.
    • Vanity is it's own enemy.  I know a mature and older man that lost 37 pounds getting to the point he was walking/slow running  a full five miles a morning in order to be in better form  to go to the San Antonio River  Walk and meet a lady  he had become interested in. Now don't ask if he kept it off. Or even if he still walks/runs those five miles a day.   Any old geezer that has a desire for a companion had better learn to look in the mirror before thinking  a new companion need look like they think they too once did in days of old. Thing is most of us never did look that way,  and are very unlikely to ever in the future look it either. I try to think  of the line that it is like being an old Ford truck  with dings dents and some rust to boot. Makes for character, beautiful character lines to be appreciated and cherished for the earning of each of them. Besides as to the female of the species all are beautiful, for God created them that way!  May all women be protected by many angels from such a vanity in a man if he doesn't know that. For he likely isn't much worth seeing, never mind getting to know. A man should honor what God has made wo-man, specifically because it is good that He did. God saw that Himself and said so. A man should see the glory of her in every form in which she she may be manifested by God.  Amen?  Amen from here.
    • Thank you Eilleenhat, your courage to speak the truth is commendable.  Nowhere does the Bible say that God will take His people to live in heaven. It is only by inference and assumption that the rapture lie is construed.  Isaiah 66:4  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, no one answered; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before My eyes, and chose what displeased Me.  Ezekiel 20:25 With the rapture cult, the initial error is that of separating Israel and the Church, so they could still look for salvation to come to ethnic Israel, as a major tenet of their doctrine: Israel on earth, the Church in heaven.   The pre-Trib rapture teaches removal to ensure survival from tribulation, but salvation has always been stated to redeem us from our fallen sinful state,  in our earthly situation.     Acts 20:21 I know that when I am gone, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 2 Peter 2:1-3, 2 Timothy 4:3-4 The rapture idea is that God will “save us” from that which must occur – thus equating this supposed removal with salvation. After so many Christians saw the inadequacy and misappropriation of the verses used to promote Pre-Trib, the Post-Trib alternative was then built around surviving the tribulation – thus sustaining the illusion that survival is somehow related to salvation. The “delusion” the LORD chose, is the strong delusion referenced in the New Testament:    2 Thessalonians 2:11  And for this reason God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. This “delusion” has people looking forward to the 2nd Coming (in the so called rapture, Pre, Mid, or Post) believing in an evacuation. The reality is, we experience  His glorious salvation when we enter in to the blessed assurance that Christ’s Death means the penalty for our sin has been paid because of His sacrifice on the cross. Our salvation was assured at the first coming, not the second. Ever since then, believers must trust in Jesus for their salvation and for their protection during the testing times to come.  Isaiah 43:2, Psalms 31:23-24 And if the Lord does not save them, as has happened to the millions of martyrs in the last 2 centuries, then we must die trusting in His promise of resurrection. Revelation 12:11 Our souls will be kept under the heavenly Altar, Revelation 6:9-11, and Jesus will bring them with Him at His Return, then bring us to life again, to reign with Him for 1000 years. Revelation 20:4        
    • Galatians 3:27-29....there is now no difference between Jew and Gentile, they are all one in Christ.... The ruse you have fallen for, Daniel 11, is the fanciful notion of a rapture to heaven, that is never mention in the Bible.  Isaiah 66:4  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, no one answered; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did evil before My eyes, and chose what displeased Me.  Ezekiel 20:25 With the Rapture Cult, the initial error is that of separating Israel and the Church, so they could still look for salvation to come to ethnic Israel, as a major tenet of their doctrine: Israel on earth, the Church in heaven.   The pre-Trib rapture teaches removal to ensure survival from tribulation, but salvation has always been stated to redeem us from our fallen sinful state,  in our earthly situation.     Acts 20:21 I know that when I am gone, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 2 Peter 2:1-3, 2 Timothy 4:3-4 With the rapture theory, the idea is that God will “save us” from that which must occur – thus equalling this supposed removal with salvation. After so many Christians saw the inadequacy and misappropriation of the verses used to promote Pre-Trib, the Post-Trib alternative was then built around surviving the tribulation – thus sustaining the illusion that survival is somehow related to salvation. The “delusion” the LORD chose, is the strong delusion referenced in the New Testament:    2 Thessalonians 2:11  And for this reason God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. This “delusion” has people looking forward to the 2nd Coming (in the so called rapture, Pre, Mid, or Post) believing in an evacuation. The reality is, we experience  His glorious salvation when we enter in to the blessed assurance that Christ’s Death means the penalty for our sin has been paid because of His sacrifice on the cross. Our salvation was assured at the first coming, not the second. Ever since then, believers must trust in Jesus for their salvation and for their protection during the testing times to come.  Isaiah 43:2, Psalms 31:23-24 And if the Lord does not save them, as has happened to the millions of martyrs in the last 2 centuries, then we must die trusting in His promise of resurrection. Revelation 12:11 Our souls will be kept under the heavenly Altar, Revelation 6:9-11, and Jesus will bring them with Him at His Return, then bring us to life again, to reign with Him for 1000 years. Revelation 20:4      
    •   The non descript beasts I want to compare 2 beasts, they are beasts with no direct description.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Dan 7:7-8 (7)  After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. (8)  I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. Rev 13:11-12 (11)  And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. (12)  And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.           Concerning these 2 beasts, there is no description of what kind of beasts they are, but it seems concerning these 2 similarities, that these 2 beasts (even though being 2 separate beasts after a manner) seem to be related to each other.   And also we can see, direct relations concerning other beasts such as the feet of a bear mentioned in Revelation 13:2 and the bear of Daniel 7:5, and of course the beast like a leopard in Revelation 13:2, and the leopard in Daniel 7:6. Now the non-descript beast of Daniel 7:7, of course refers to the Roman empire, but the 2nd beast of Revelation 13:11-12, is known as the false prophet, which we will mention in our next scripture. Rev 19:20 (20)  And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.     The false prophet refers to a religious leader, that is tied to the Roman empire in some form, but in what way?   Well it says of the false prophet beast, that it has 2 horns like a lamb, and what do those 2 horns like a lamb point to?   They point to the city of Rome, and the Roman Catholic religion, which appear as lambs, but are not true lambs.   And the false prophet will be a certain pope.   The false prophet is the leader of the Roman Catholic church, and will no doubt be the last pope.   And this ties in also with the whore, which is a religious system, and the city of Rome.   Rev 17:18 (18)  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.   Rev 18:23-24 (23)  And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. (24)  And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.       The whore is a church full of sorceries, and many have tried to reform her such as Martin Luther with his theses, but to no avail, and even though she is full of sorceries, she still mentions bible verses here and again, but twist the scripture to fit her ways.     The false prophet
          Here is interesting information, concerning the Vatican hill which is where the Vatican is:     (www.encyclopedia.com)   (...The Vatican stands on Vatican Hill (not one of the ‘seven hills’ of Rome) whose Latin name was Mons Vaticanus from vaticinator ‘prophet’ or ‘soothsayer’. The soothsayers were located here in Roman times and the hill took its name from them....)   A soothsayer refers to a false prophet, thus the Vatican hill, which is the headquarters of the pope, is the hill of the false prophet.   This is not a coincidence, and a certain pope will be the false prophet, and his 2 horns are the Roman Catholic church, and the city of Rome, and the Vatican is a city within the city of Rome.   Thanks.            
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