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    •   God's throne is in heaven, I have never suggested it is anywhere else.  You are aware that there is more than one layer of heaven aren't you?  If not Retrobyter has given some really nice explanations of that in the past, you should  take a look at them.  God's throne is found in the highest level.  The sky you look up and see with your eyes is the lowest level of the heavens, which is what Matthew and Paul are speaking of when they say the living will meet Him in the air or are gathered in the clouds.  You can see the clouds in the sky right?  You can't see God's throne though can you?   As to the great multitude, first you have to acknowledge this part.   Revelation 6:9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.   Their souls are in heaven, they are dead, or asleep if you prefer.  They are given their white robes here and told to wait until other believers are killed as they were.   Revelation 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,   The number of dead people has grown because other believers have been killed during the war against the saints.   Revelation 7:13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.   Same group, refer back to the fifth seal, these are the ones who are killed for the word of God and the testimony they maintained.  Dead people, still not in their spiritual bodies, they are souls.  All of these believers will follow Him out of heaven because they are already dead, but those who are alive and remain meet Him in the air, in the clouds. God bless
    • Pasta based dishes such as spaghetti work well for church pot lucks and such, as it's fairly simple in large quantities.  
    • THANK YOU, FOR BRINGING UP THE SUBJECT LEADING ME TO A REVIEW  OF MYSELF AND MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY CREATOR. Sorry for the all caps. I wasn't shouting , just dragged a tired finger across the caps lock.
    • Shalom, Allroses48. I'm not a Trinitarian per se, but I'm certainly NOT an "Anti-Trinitarian." I'm more of a "practical Binitarian." I do believe that G-d is in TWO Persons. Romans 1:1-7
      1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
      2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
      3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
      4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
      5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
      6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
      7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
      KJV 1 Corinthians 1:1-3
      1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
      2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
      3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
      KJV 2 Corinthians 1:1-2
      1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:
      2 Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
      KJV Galatians 1:1-5
      1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
      2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
      3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
      4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
      5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
      KJV Ephesians 1:1-6
      1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
      2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
      4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
      5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
      6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
      KJV 1 Timothy 1:1-2
      1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;
      2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
      KJV 2 Timothy 1:1-2
      1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,
      2 To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
      KJV Titus 1:1-4
      1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
      2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
      3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
      4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
      KJV Hebrews 1:1-4
      1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
      2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
      3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
      4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
      KJV James 1:1
      1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
      KJV 1 Peter 1:1-5
      1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
      2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
      3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
      4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
      5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
      KJV 2 Peter 1:1-4
      1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
      2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
      3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
      4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
      KJV 1 John 1:1-3
      1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
      2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
      3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
      KJV 2 John 1-3
      1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
      2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
      3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
      KJV Jude 1-2
      1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
      2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
      KJV Revelation 1:1-2
      1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
      2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
      KJV Almost every one of the Epistles and the book of Revelation begin with the acknowledgement of the TWO! Regarding the "Spirit," we have TWO "Spirits" recorded again! The "Holy Spirit" is usually said to be the "Spirit of God," the "Spirit of the Father," the "Spirit of glory," "the Spirit of life," or "His Spirit." We also have "the Spirit of Christ" or the "Spirit of Jesus Christ." This is found in three places: Romans 8:9
      9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
      KJV Philippians 1:19-20
      19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
      20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.
      KJV 1 Peter 1:10-11
      10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
      11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
      KJV And, it originated HERE: John 20:21-23
      21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
      22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
      23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
      KJV One will also find Scripture that says,... John 4:24
      24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
      KJV Yeshua` (Jesus) doing the talking! The word "spirit" comes from "ruwach" in the OT and from "pneuma" in the NT: OT:7307 ruwach (roo'-akh); from OT:7306; wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible ["feel-able"] (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively, life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension, a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions):
      KJV - air, anger, blast, breath,  cool, courage, mind,  quarter,  side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest,  vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y). OT:7306 ruwach (roo'-akh); a primitive root; properly, to blow, i.e. breathe; only (literally) to smell or (by implication, perceive (figuratively, to anticipate, enjoy):
      KJV - accept, smell,  touch, make of quick understanding. NT:4151 pneuma (pnyoo'-mah); from NT:4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's spirit, the Holy Spirit:
      KJV - ghost, life, spirit (-ual, -ually), mind. Compare NT:5590. NT:4154 pneoo (pneh'-o); a primary word; to breathe hard, i.e. breeze:
      KJV - blow. Compare NT:5594. (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.) So, the Breath of God is "the SPIRIT of God," who IS a "SPIRIT," A BREATH! The word "pneuma" has been used in various ways in the NT: It can mean a "ghost"; it can mean an "attitude"; it can mean a "voice"; it can mean a "thought"; it can mean an "idea." It's been so nebulous in interpretation, that I cannot pinpoint, yet, what exactly it means in translation! The word "spirit" has been used in translation, but even that word is nebulous in meaning! and But, looking at this last "ORIGIN" portion - the etymology of the word - it, too, comes from Latin words (the language of the Roman Empire) meaning "a breath" and  "to breathe!" So, if the "Holy Spirit" is God, "a Person of the Godhead," and "God the Father" is God, who is "thrice Holy" and is Spirit, then what's the difference between the "Holy Spirit" and "God the Father?" Therefore, I believe in TWO Persons: God the Father (who is EQUAL to the "Holy Spirit") and the Son of God, Yeshua` the Messiah, who is also called the Word of God (John 1) because He was God.
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