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    • I say neither.  There are 144,000 and they are from Israel, 12,000 from each tribe.  What is their purpose.  Rev 12:1 - Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads... v3. and they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. And they follow the Lamb where ever He goes.  These are offered as first fruits to God and to the Lamb.  (First fruits of who or what?)  First fruits of Israel.  They were sealed sometime before the 2nd Coming, yet they do their work after the 2nd Coming. In Christ Montana Marv
    • I see Yeshua saying that 'as in the days of Noah', this and that person will be taken. (to death) In Esdras I read that some will also be taken (to destruction) and the ones LEFT are more blessed and will endure hardship. This is in complete opposition to the pre-trib rapture and I am wondering if the church has been doing what Yeshuah warned against saying: 'Many will come In My Name' (the church) and say this and that and deceive multitudes.
    • Our being gathered to Him was what Paul was writing about in 2 Thes 2:1.  Not the 2nd Coming, we would not worry or fret when we see Jesus.  But, if one thought he had missed the Rapture, Well, he would worry and fret would he not. The Pre-Trib Rapture stuff was well and alive in Paul's day.  Get your act together. I read Scripture, that is history, that is prophecy.  You have been duped.  Israel has not accepted their Messiah as promised in Daniel 9:24.  We will agree on very little.  You say; the 70 weeks has been fulfilled.  I say the 70th Week has not been fulfilled because Israel has yet to accept their Messiah.  So I do not believe in your mumbo jumbo with regard to the RCC or your 70th week placement. In Christ Montana Marv
    • No, I wasn't. "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." - Luke 13:2   And if anyone has to repent, it has to be in this life. "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment" - Hebrews 9:27   I was living in the darkness, where sin and death reigns. "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,
      and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." - Matthew 13:41-42   As far as I know they will all be judged according to the light they had received. But in this generation?! People are pretty aware of the light. "And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet.
      Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!" - Matthew 10:14-15   And even when they're aware of the light, and its expectations. They insist in the darkness. "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
    • If the Church didn't get into heaven as when 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8 reveal, then supposing you tell me how they are present for the marriage that take place in heaven, according to Rev.19:7-8, while the tribulation is taking place on earth.  Then return with Jesus from heaven in verse 14!  You remain refuted!  Case closed!   Quasar93
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