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    • I enjoy studying revolutionary and civil war history and also ancient history. It always amazes me how such monumental things that happened are forgotten in time yet the Word of God and His story remains. Just another "proof" of the bible's authenticity. 
    • No the difference between fruit and good works is that fruit will always be reflect the character of God and will be those things that actually matter for the Kingdom of God.   Anyone can do good works.   But fruit is what Christians bear, not what they do.  We don't produce the fruit.  God produces the fruit; we bear the fruit.  
    • Well, what about a person who is a bit of both? I guess I am part liberal because I believe in feeding everybody, peace over war, affordable healthcare and individual rights. I guess I am part conservative because I believe in less government, the right to life, working hard for what you get and freedom.  I think it is easy to run into trouble when we start labeling large groups of people. The apostles were very different but all (except 1) loved Jesus.   I am a Christian 1st over anything else I may or may not be. I am very anti abortion, anti death penalty and anti government bureaucracy though for different reasons.  Obviously abortion is a horrible, evil thing. I am against the death penalty because it doesn't deter crime, it is too expensive and I do not trust our legal system to enforce it properly. Odd that in the 1st post you said the death penalty was biblical then one sentence later said it is only for God to take a life.  Jesus told me to love my enemies, I will go with that. Oh, one last thing, as I grow as both a Christian and a human I am libel to amend these opinions of mine, though I can never see a time when I would support abortion. Of course making abortion illegal does not put much of a dent in the number performed. To do that we must heal a society that is rampant with premaritial sex and fornication. To do that we must change as a society so people do not feel hopeless and they can turn towards God. Of course that is much more complicated than simply being "pro life" so many Christians will not want to discuss the socio-economic and political situations that cause such hopelessness and amoral behavior.......see it really is not so simple as liberal or conservative after all. 
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