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    • Retro - could your head get any bigger? My post was not a personal attack on you. If you took it that way, I'm sorry. But, I am calling out the fact that your post is false teaching. I am not threatened by you or your posts at all. We are called to point out any false gospel that is being taught, and Scripture is full of examples of believers calling out the names of those who teach falsely. My issue is with the teaching that raptured individuals will not go to Heaven but will be transported to the Middle East. I cannot find that anywhere in Scripture. What I do find is that we will meet Christ in there air, where He will take us to the place where He has gone to prepare for us, a place with many mansions....the New Jerusalem, in Heaven. Further, Paul himself stated, in 2 Corinthians 5:8, that "Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord." (NLT) Body or no body, until the Rapture, the Bible teaches that we will go to be with the Lord and that He will give us Resurrected bodies at the Rapture if we have gone before. As for taking a colored pill, I do not think so. I believe what I believe because I have read it in Scripture. In plain text, in context. No pills. But maybe someone has been drinking the Kool-Aide of deception or of self-aggrandizement. Perhaps they (if the shoe fits...) should stop throwing out drivel and take Scripture literally instead of trying to teach error to those who know better. I won't waste any more of my time or words with you. Error is error and I have pointed it out, so, less power to it! 
    • I had two years of speech in high school and the second semester both years was formal debate.   I found it was very helpful to be able to discuss both sides of a subject  with myself to get somewhat of a heads up on what an opponent might say or do. it works extremely well if you can see ahead and speak against what a person has planned ahead so you can do a rebuttal before they even start.    I've won debates on Capitol Punishment taking one side or the other using this.        Drove my managers crazy at work when they asked questions and I had instant answers that they could not refute as to why thier ideas were not going to pan out.   Makes for some fun times also unless you come across me when I don't know anyone is around and doing so outloud....   one would think I was possessed or skitzoid  LoL.
    • Yes God gave us free will so either refute with scripture or accept His word, I’m really not interested what your opinions have to say. Refute with scripture what exactly is not CLEAR of oil being a symbolism of the Holy Spirit?   Isaiah 61:3, those who will be converted in the Millennium and receive the Holy Spirit, will receive “the oil of joy” — since the Holy Spirit is a Spirit of joy (Galatians 5:22; Acts 13:52) Christ gave His disciples the same ability to heal sick people by the power of the Holy Spirit (Mark 16:18), which presence is symbolized by the anointing of the sick person with oil (James 5:14). Mark 6:13 that Christ had His disciples anoint sick people with oil, and they were healed. We know that Christ healed the sick with the power of the Holy Spirit (Luke 8:43-46) Holy Spirit rested upon Christ (Isaiah 11:2). At the same time, we read that the Father anointed Christ with the “oil of gladness, more than” His “companions” (Hebrews 1:9) Samuel anointed Saul with oil (1 Samuel 10:1), and Saul received the Holy Spirit Samuel anointed David with oil, and at that moment, David received the Holy Spirit (1 Samuel 16:13). Genesis 28:18-19 that Jacob poured oil on the pillar stone, calling the name of the place “Bethel.” Jacob understood that God was present). Please explain to me scripturally what is the difference between a whore and a virgin in the context of worship. Refute the following are Hebrew Idioms of Rosh Hashanah “no man knows.” – Matthew 25: 13 (parable of the wise and foolish virgins) Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming. / Matthew 24:36-37 But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the malak (angels) of heaven, but my Father only Just a brief background of Rosh Hashanah The temple doors were only open for a short period of time, and those who were slack in running to the temple were left out of the feast because the “doors were shut,” and, no man could get in. This feast began at sundown, they had to make sure that their oil lamps were filled so that they could find their way in the dark towards the temple. 
      In the parable of the wise and foolish virgins it also states the following - 6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; 
      That cry that was heard, were the two witnesses, who made that cry because in ancient Jerusalem, there would be “two witnesses” who would  stand on the walls of Jerusalem and “watch” for the first sliver (crescent) of the new moon to usher in the feast that “The day no man knows” Rosh Hashanah.   Teshuvah (repentance) Yom Teruah (the Day of the Awakening Blast [Feast of Trumpets) HaMelech (the Coronation of the Messiah) Yom HaZikkaron (the Day of Remembrance or memorial) The opening of the gates Kiddushin/Nesu'in (the wedding ceremony) The resurrection of the dead (rapture, natza1) The last trump (shofar) Yom Hakeseh (the hidden day) Now having the above knowledge, lets examine some of your false ideas: You refuted no such thing, God gave the wedding customs, service, and ceremonies to the Jewish people (Romans 3:2; 9:4) to teach us about Christ (Colossians 2:16-17)…..what you claim as refuting my argument is an example of how you have cherry picked scripture to support a distorted view. With that in mind, you are commanded scripturally if you wish to learn anything about Christ to examine the biblical wedding ceremony that God gave to the Jewish people, you will also find with the feasts to be a holy convocation.
      24 Speak unto the children of Yisra’el, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall you have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, a holy convocation. Now what does holy convocation mean? It means rehearsal (Strong's Exhaustive Concordance – 4744)
      What is the rehearsal? Why it’s the wedding rehearsal of cause. And now look what happens in the Millenmium when Christ is reigning with His Queen for both brides will then be only one bride (Israel and Church)  Feast of Tabernacles aka Sukkot,
      Zechariah 14:16–21
      16 Then everyone who survives of all the nations that have come against Jerusalem shall go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Booths. 
      Again mere opinions. We find a prophetic pattern in Genesis when Christ marries His other bride Israel in the story of Isaac and Rebekah Genesis 24:53 And the servant brought forth jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment, and gave them to Ribqah (Rebekah): he gave also to her brother and to her mother precious things. Isaiah 54:10-11 prophecies about the day when God will restore Israel as a bride and he will give her jewels. Genesis 24:54 And they did eat and drink, he and the men that were with him, and tarried all night; and they rose up in the morning, and he said, Send me away unto my master.
       Genesis 24:55 And her brother and her mother said, Let the damsel abide with us a few days, at the least ten; after that she shall go.
      Rebekah’s family ask her to remain “ten days” before going to marry Isaac and this is an allusion to Revelation 2:10 where the Congregation at Smyrna is going to go through tribulation for ten days. Eleazar (a type of the Holy Spirit) does not want to be hindered from taking the bride to the bridegroom
      As mentioned you treat the 1000 year reign of Christ literal 1000 year, you treat the 5 month of the 1st woe as literal 5 months, you have no justification to treat the 10 days of tribulation other than literal 10 days of tribulation unless the text or context dictates otherwise which is not the case.
       
      Strong’s Hebrew Concordance for the word “awe:”
      #7264: ragaz: to quiver with violent emotion, especially anger and fear; be afraid, stand in awe; fall out, quake, shake, tremble, trouble. Rev 2:10 ...and you will have awe for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.
      Unless you going to tell me I’m forbidden from translating Greek to Hebrew now? .
      Im prebowl resurrection
      So? Are you not aware they carry well into the trumpets?
      Pay attention here
      examining Rev 7:9, John “looked” (Tense: Aorist) and "behold" (Tense: Aorist)  the multitude but when we get to Rev 7:17 For the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd. He will lead them to fountains of living water, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’” He will shepherd them (Tense: Future) Lead them to fountains of living water (Tense: future) Now Fountains of living water means immortality, why if Rev 7 is your rapture and resurrection does John not see the multitude immortal, but something that is still to occur for them?
             
    • I was in debate in high school. Were you oo?
    • I have spent many hours pondering that question Ayin....   have had many conversations with myself over the subject.   I don't know if I am the only one here that can argue with him/herself, but it is an interesting talent....   developed it in high school debate classes.
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