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    • The point isn’t this. I fully agree that sin is unmasked in the Church. What I don’t agree is in trying to control each member by force, using the fear of punishment for try to create a robotic Church. What would be the objective of creating a uniformly organized Church, with no errors, by force or violence (see Zechariah 4.6)? Nothing must be done guided by fear. After all, he that fear is not made perfect in love. (1John 4.18). Furthermore, if it was to somebody to control the Church by force, no one better to this than Jesus Himself. He has all power, authority, wisdom, knowledge, justice and love to this. Notwithstanding, he planted the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Gen 2.9) and have set before us life and death, blessing and cursing  (Deut 30.19). Not to mention the fact shown on verses below:   ·         “Behold, happy [ is ] the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.” (Job 5.17,18). ·         “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [ things ].” "(Isaiah 45.8). ·         “Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.” (Isaiah 54.16). ·         “Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” (Mathew 18.7). ·         “For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” (1Cor 11.19). ·         “Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: the one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: but the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice. (Phil 1.15-18). ·         “Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” (Rev 22.11).   And what was the motive for this?   ·         “[ What ] if God, willing to shew [ his ] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,” (Rom 9.22,23).   Beyond that, Jesus never did question that His disciples was robotically uniformed. Differently, He chose disciples that, if it was us, we never would choose: four illiterate fishers, one revolutionary, one publican and one thief (and on top of that to be treasurer). And, even Jesus knowing all this, nevertheless He never prosecuted, threated or censured him. But until in the moment that Jude was betraying, Jesus continued to offer His friendship to him (Mathew 26.50). All this happened to teach us that, instead of trying to keep the evil far away or to fight it with evil, we ought to overcome evil with good (Rom 19.21). Unfortunately, we believe more in the power of evil than in the power of God. Our problem isn’t in the size of the evil, but the absence of space within us to make the grace of our Lord Jesus superabound (Rom 5.20). The Eternal created and endured the vessels of wrath to make known the riches of his glory. Therefore, instead of wanting to control wolves, goats, vessels of wrath, that we strain ourselves to make room within us for everything that is Jesus can be known by all. Summarizing: instead of managing people so that they don’t make the evil (how intend to do the antichrist – Rev 13.16,17), that Jesus can show through us that there is no evil so great that His glory and grace can’t turn into something good for those who love Jesus (Rom 8.28). The proof of this is that, even Ha-Satan and Jude having total liberty to act, they finish contributing with the plan of redemption of all mankind. In other words, until the participation of Jude and Ha-Satan was take in account (see Ps 41.9; John 13.18) to teach us that when a man's ways please the LORD (Prov 16.7), nothing can be withholden from thee. (Job 42.2; Isaiah 43.13). At finally, hear the voice of the Lord, be guided for it (Rom 8.14) and everyone will can see the good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God in you (Rom 12.2) and, with this, make room within them to Jesus’ Spirit to convince them of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment (John 16.8). May Jesus bless you.  
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    • Hello brother, I read most of that, but in the #3. at the bottom you seemed to go astray. Those 10 Kings rule at the end with the Anti-Christ. I have a blog about Daniel 7 and 8, much shorter and it pinpoints where the Anti-Christ will be (was) born. God Bless http://mrrondonmon.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-birthplace-of-anti-christ.html
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    • Welcome~! And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. Colossians 3:17  (New International Version) ~ PS: IMO You Will Lose Both Feeling
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      And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:31 ~ Be Blessed Beloved Daughter Of The KING The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
      The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
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