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    • Hi Bonnie - Thanks for your reply. I agree much with your statement and I believe it is during the times of hardness when we are most reassured by God's Spirit (Rom 8:16).   Blessings!
    • HI MD - Thanks for your reply, and what post of your's are you referring to? Blessings!
    • Hi brakelite Sorry my reply is so long.  I hope you take the time to read... Yes the different parts taken from scripture do suit my argument, but for only one reason....they all agree to a certain place in time that has never happened before.  A time of restoration, and a time of peace involving Israel and the gentiles.  We must "discern" the scriptures.  Line upon line, precept upon precept.  This is where the deep things are hidden.  Discern is to separate and know what is past, present and future and slot them into the right places to form a picture.  We can see the picture at the end of it, if we know the prophesies and exactly what order they come.  Also if I printed the whole chapter it would be too much to read.  It's easier to give the main verses proving my point and you can look up the rest at your own leisure.
        You see this as a contradiction, I see it as a prophesy leading up to the coming.  When the trouble starts (tribulation), it will start with Jerusalem.  They have something standing there on holy ground that has to be "removed", so that their temple can be built and the abomination of desolation set up.  The king of the North will be the one to do this job.  The millennium has not started yet...and as for all those "inhabitants of the earth", their punishment will follow shortly after, as WAR is coming... and all the nations will be involved, with all the inhabitants who are spiritually part of Babylon. Revelation 9:16   And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.  Revelation 9:18   By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
        The whole earth are those joined to Babylon, and yes they will be punished. First they have all the plagues from the seven angels and many will die, and then more will die during the war of "nation against nation" where a third of men die (that war is held in Israel), then all the armies will die when they war the Lamb in the valley of Jehosophat (just outside Jersualem), and then when the Lord comes he will "punish" all the inhabitants of the earth and more will die.  But please note; not everyone will die, but punished with torment, sorrow, and loss. Everyone joined to Babylon will experience this.  Affliction comes, but not necessarily death to all.  There will be "remnants" left of the gentiles and Jews.  Not many, but remnants.   Do you see that word "wicked" there?  For example, my very lovely extended family who don't know the Lord may not appreciate his grace, or how important it is to seek the Lord, but I would hardly call them "wicked".  Many of them have very good hearts, and are not murderers or thieves, they don't oppress the poor, and would give the shirts of their backs to help someone in need.  So because they have a certain amount of love inside them, and do no harm to their neighbour, I would hardly call them "wicked".  What I would call "wicked" are those who love a bribe, those who kill, those those who rape, who steal, who rob the poor, who commit adultery, who bear false witness and oppress others...those types. These ones, God will make sure will be killed during "war".  This eliminates the very bad, for the sake of the few good "of heart" who know not the Lord.  But those good of heart will still experience punishment to a great degree but not all will experience death.
        This is still the lead up to the Millennium.  There will be a lot of death that's for sure...but not everyone.
        The land of "Babylon" shall be utterly emptied.  All joined to her come from all walks of life. Everything Babylon has produced, even all her merchandise will be taken off her.  This will affect everyone remaining.  All the things that they have lived for are now taken away and destroyed.  No homes, no cars, no telephones, no internet, no electricity, no planes, no buses, no boats, no shopping malls, no hairdressers, no toilet paper even unless you want to go through the rubble.
        The earth is clean dissolved now of "Babylon".  Her system is no longer.  Her  wicked ones are destroyed.  Her buildings all gone, her factories no more.  Everything she has produced will be finally be destroyed by the big earthquake, and fire and brimstone, and hailstones, and she "Babylon" will never rise again, for the Lord will take dominion, and will rule with fairness and truth from here on ruling with a different system not based on greed but truth. Do you agree this is the coming?  These high ones, and kings will be put in prison. These are not the 10 kings of Rev (the beast) because they will be thrown into the lake of fire at the coming with the false prophet.  These are the others who have ruled unfairly and allowed God's people to be killed, who helped with the job.  These are the other oppressors.  They will live to see everything being taken off them and will be oppressed themselves serving time in prison.  So hopefully you can see that not all are killed at the coming, even these very wicked ones, who will feel what it's like to be abased and put in prison for their crimes against God and man and they will be wailing. The New Jerusalem is the "City of Truth".  A heavenly city built of truth.  The saints at the resurrection become one with the city as they are wearing her righteousness.  This is what comes down, the same laws of holiness in heaven will be done here on the earth.  It's a spiritual city consisting of "truth".  Christ will bring this down, a holy system and will rule by this system.  It's not a building made out of stone, it's not heaven, but it's a spiritual building made up of truth.  Heaven's laws come down and will be established on the earth, and all men have to abide by it now.  Zechariah 8:3   Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain. Jerusalem lies in waste because of the two wars there.  She is flattened which is why she will be restored.  She will become like Eden again.  It will be cleaned up.  The cities of the nations however will not be allowed for future dwellings.  They will become out of bound areas and will not be cleaned up.  They are full of the dead, and destroyed buildings, and wild animals will live there.  Over time it will become like a forest with grass and trees covering the ruins.  Man will start again and build houses outside of the cities. Isaiah 13:19   And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

       Isaiah 13:20   It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

       Isaiah 13:21   But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

        Isaiah 13:22   And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.    Jeremiah 4:26   I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

        Jeremiah 4:27   For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

        Jeremiah 4:28   For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.
        I hope I have shown you how all this does not contradict the millennial kingdom on earth, because most of the above is the lead up to it.  
    • "No idea" is a bit of a stretch.  Who are the ones who will  have discernment? But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.  Hebrews 5:14 Those who are doers of the word and not hearers only, the ones God refers to as "wise."
    • Not to mention the mysterious deaths of people who were about to expose her crimes. One or two may be a coincidence but I believe that the tally is now over forty. The latest high profile one to my knowledge is the lawyer who declared that he had enough information to put her in jail then mysteriously got himself hit by a train. The media claimed that it was suicide but the guy had a family, kids, was said to be happy and left no suicide note. Mary Mahoney was killed in 1997. She was closing up a coffee shop when gunmen broke in a shot her all her staff. No money was taken. Mahoney was a former White House employee whom it was believed was to be giving evidence against Bill Clinton in a sexual harassment case. There are many more deaths just google "Clinton body count" or "Hillary Clinton death list". In fact there are presumed to be five more in just the last couple of months. I realise that it's just a conspiracy theory but the amount of people on the list is too many for it to be mere coincidence. Nobody appears to be able to stop Hillary's run to the White House, but maybe this illness of hers will do!
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