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    • Yes. The Day of th LORD has nothing to do with the Church, and in fact it would correspond to the Great Tribulation (a period of judgments).  One must review all the OT passages concerning the Day of the LORD, but this should suffice for now (Joel 2:1-3,6,10,11): ALL WILL TREMBLE 1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A PERIOD OF DARKNESS 2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. A PERIOD OF BURNING 3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them... A PERIOD OF GREAT PAIN 6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness... A PERIOD OF CATACLYSMIC COSMIC EVENTS 10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: A GREAT AND TERRIBLE TIME 11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
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    • I remember Paul saying that, and in the translation of the bible it said, do not greive the Holy Spirit of God, that time I did not know what to think about that, but now I got some perspective as to what Paul wanted to emphasize, that's what I think.  To be disapprove about something from the Holy Spirit, even better than that, to receive a strong warning from the Holy Spirit, that in knowledge of the Holy Spirit's guidance someone may do something else than what the HS wanted to be done, that affected the outcome and upset the plans of what the HS wanted to be done in a very specific situation. This is can be seen, when Peter shaw the vision , and the Lord was asking him to go to Kornilious home and visit his family, the Gentile, who was considered unclean and not just from his culture but from their Law of purification.  Simply to put it, it was forbidden from the Law and their culture to enter a Gentiles home.  In Peter's culture, even as a believer it was a taboo a no, no to enter in a Gentiles home. We see Peter with a strong hesitation he went to Kornilious home, considering the consicouenses he initially refuse, and the Lord put him in a situation, by having the Gentiles knocking on his door, and telling him (in case Peter or his host got the scare of their lives initialy that their propose was to arrest Peter),  that the reason for them knocking on the gate it was for another propose. Because we know what followed, it is obvious to see how the plans of the Holy Spirit would have been upset if Peter had refuse to go with them, or when he went with them but refuse to enter their home, believing that the Lord want come with him and he will be on his own.  If Peter had not spoken the words given to him by the Holy Spirit, which not only him, but none other disciple had in the past spoken these words to a Gentile, inviting a Gentile to faith as he was, which it was against their guidelines.  Peter would have greived the Holy Spirit, and he would know it, because the Spirit will tell him, and he will know it from the strong mood of the Spirit's disaproval within him.  The same way Peter could sensed the joy of the Spirit within him, the same way he could sense the unhappiness and the upsetting of the Spirit for not following the instructions, because the Spirit represented the Lord, and that meant that the Lord was happy for his obedience or greaved by his disobedience. We see that with Paul in Philipie when he ended up in prison and beaten up together with the others, thinking what did he do wrong and feeling weak and disappointed, and how he may have disobeyed the Lord by what he did and ended in prison, but suddenly he said he felt the Spirit joyous within him, rather approving than dissaproving and his strength came back knowing he had follow the guidance of the Spirit to end in the prison, and that his mission was to meet the Warden, the Macedonian man.  In a similar way to appear before Ceasar he had to go to what he went through and be brought before him.  In both those situations both disciples abide and nourish by the vine, they complete their mission, and the propose of the Lord was accomplish, they were useful to him, he could guide them, they obey both of them his commandment to go to where he sent them. As he had said, if you love me,  obey my commandments, and they did.   
    • Yes. Before the Fall. After that grace came into play, hence the coats of skins.  Many believe that the shedding of the blood of innocent creatures to provide coverings for Adam and Eve represented the finished work of Christ.
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      Psalm 40 (KJV)
      40 I waited patiently for the Lord; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry.
      2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.
      3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord.
      4 Blessed is that man that maketh the Lord his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.
      5 Many, O Lord my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.
      6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
      7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
      8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
      9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O Lord, thou knowest.
      10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.
      11 Withhold not thou thy tender mercies from me, O Lord: let thy lovingkindness and thy truth continually preserve me.
      12 For innumerable evils have compassed me about: mine iniquities have taken hold upon me, so that I am not able to look up; they are more than the hairs of mine head: therefore my heart faileth me.
      13 Be pleased, O Lord, to deliver me: O Lord, make haste to help me.
      14 Let them be ashamed and confounded together that seek after my soul to destroy it; let them be driven backward and put to shame that wish me evil.
      15 Let them be desolate for a reward of their shame that say unto me, Aha, aha.
      16 Let all those that seek thee rejoice and be glad in thee: let such as love thy salvation say continually, The Lord be magnified.
      17 But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord thinketh upon me: thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God.
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      Thanks for chatting with me about Thomas today. It was lots of fun. And Mater is best!!! Lightening McQueen is definitely a close second. You rock, buddy!
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    • BacKaran  »  da_man1974

      Hi, I'm back. I Read Ezra's answer to someone in the RCC. Ezra s right on point regarding baptism. This is going to be very interesting conversing with rccs on biblical topics. I left the RCC, was baptized in the Jordan River on my first 2011 trip to Israel after Mike died....and my dad says... Why? Once wasnt  good enough for ya? I laughed, dad, you could have lied about my infant baptism, i was to young and don't remember and being baptized as an adult is on outward sign to show others I'm a follower and believer in Christ. My dad's 86, in poor health and I've given him the gospel message many different ways and times, he's still lost but I still pray! He has until his last breathe to repent and trust Jesus, amen! I know heavy topic, no reply needed.😃
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