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    • 1. That would violate the linearity of the Seal/Scroll chronology of Revelation chapters 4-11 (exclusive of 11:1-13). 2. Why are they mourning?  If you read a parallel account to the broad overview of the Seal/Scroll chronology, where the sixth Seal's sun/moon/star event lines up so well with Mt 24:29 - in the detailed account of just the one 'seven' with the Rise and the Fall of the anti-Christ in Revelation chapters 13-16 (inclusive) - then, in chapter 14, preceding the Harvest, three Angels warn the earth that Jesus is coming.  The first completes Mt 24:14 and the other two tell the wicked what's in store for them.  So of course they're not exactly excited to see Him come - it's why they're hiding and expecting His Wrath to fall next in Revelation 6:17 -- -- But that's not exactly the NEXT thing that is going to happen!  The Rapture is.  This is consistent with putting Mt 24:30 and then Mt 24:31 in order together - and buttressed as well as by linking the two events together as Paul does in 2Th 2:1 -- However, in Revelation 14:17-20 - following the Harvest - IS God's Wrath in the form of the FIRST Trumpet.
    • Well said.  We have similar backgrounds as pertains to study time and the transition out of the pretrib fallacy. I personally see "the sign of the Son of Man" in Matthew 24 as corresponding to what is seen by those on earth at the sixth seal, and "the Son of Man" being seen years later, immediately following the seventh trumpet.  The Noah passage I see as speaking more to a lack of awareness than to the timing of God's wrath.  Jesus is giving signs for the disciples to recognize concerning His return which is why God's wrath is left out of Matthew 24, and in my opinion, explains why Jesus skipped from the sixth seal to the seventh trumpet in verse 30; the seventh seal contains the wrath of God. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.  Matthew 24:30 What do you see, if anything, that conflicts with that view?
    • Exactly And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:47-48 Beloved And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:10 Mercy And Grace But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 Will Keep Me From My Wages For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 6:23 ~ Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
      The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
      The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace. And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 Love, Your Brother Joe ~  
    • It's neither a general proposition nor a proposed explanation. It's not a set of facts that belong to me. I didn't conjure a scenario. It's actual fact taken right from the words of Jesus. In fact, Matt 24 is the only outline of the major events of the end of the age. Some passages in the Epistles confirm the order of events as first outlined by Jesus, but Matt 24 is the standard bearer. I see where the confusion lies. Many of us are inured to the predilection of private interpretation of prophecy in the decidedly un-christlike religious community. Because of this many are left in swirling confusion over prophectic fact, and indeed a great deal of scripture is viewed with visceral suspicion. Here's a prophecy that has come to pass;  2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." This is the existing condition of the church of God today. For close to three decades I have looked into the timing of Jesus return. I was taught Pre Trib from the beginning and studied several of the authors and listened to the advocates preach this idea. But as I tried to find the correlations between what I was being taught and the relevant quoted passages in scripture, I realized there were no connections between  Pre Trib and what scripture records. The same for Mid Trib. So logically listening to man to find the truth of prophecy came to a crashing halt. The truth of God is not the mind or heart of man. No man is correct concerning prophecy. 
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      Hi George! Can I get passwords for the Ladies Lounge and the Womens' Chat? Thank you and God bless.
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    • Milionea  »  fromeasttowest

      Well bro,
      it's like this, if one believes that he is truly saved and know in his heart that GOD and Jesus dwell in him, than he is no longer dead, but alive in Christ!
      You are called to witness;  the Way, the Truth and the Life and that's Jesus Christ... In general, the two witnesses is referring to Believers, You!(Jews & Christians)in YESHUA, CHRIST JESUS. The disciples(Jews)were told to wait in Jerusalem for the promise and to be witness"(Acts1:8).
      NEVER BEFORE IN SUCH ALONG TIME, THAT TWO WITNESSES ARE UNFOLDING BEFORE OUR VERY EYES..
      THEY ARE ONCE AGAIN TOGETHER AND IN HARMONY WITH THE TRUTH GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST... You are that temple, put together by God. "They will come from far away to help build the temple"  Zachariah 6:15.
      That why John said, "he did not see the temple in Jerusalem, because "GOD and JESUS are the TEMPLE."
      Revelation 21:22.
      I hope this help you on the Two witnesses.
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