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  1. I have to disagree with John being a prophet per se. He was an apostle. Apostles having the highest office, it is more likely they can function in the roles of all the offices (prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist) without being considered by that office.
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  2. Actually, there is a difference between someone who gives the occasional prophecy and someone who holds the office of the prophet. Recall that prophecy is considered one of the Gifts? So someone can exercise the gift of prophecy yet not be considered a prophet. To be considered a prophet holds an element of authority, and it takes more than prophecying a couple of times for the Body to recognize one as a prophet (the office).
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  3. Paul being a prophet is common knowledge being that he wrote 14 out of 66 books. I just assumed you knew. Paul is considered an apostle, not a prophet. The only prophet mentioned in Acts is Agabus. How does this not describe Paul...http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prophet Definition #3 - One of a class of persons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. Paul is always addressed as an apostle. He is never addressed as a prophet.
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  4. Yes you are, but if you use the correct definition of the word prophet then you're probably not. However, tell me a future event and I'll give it the litmus test that we are supposed to use to test for prophets. So if you tell me who you think will win the Superbowl in 2016 and what the score will be, I'll let you know in a couple of year's time, if you're a prophet or not.
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  5. Yes, I would consider that as 'supporting' the actions. It doesn't matter if someone has the right, that doesn't always make the action moral. It's like abortion...does a woman have the legal right to have her unborn child killed? Yes. But the action itself is completely immoral and wrong. So no, regardless of whether or not the person has the right, I do not support it. And I base my lack of support on Christ. Not earthly legalities or someone's personal 'right to themselves'. Take a moment to remember 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 "What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" "For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." Getting drunk out of one's mind, aborting one's own unborn child, marrying and then only 71 days later flippantly divorcing, ect... All of these actions are wrong and immoral and should never be supported by any believer in Christ. This is my opinion.
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  6. I agree, but I often wonder if these people would see execution as being some sort of 'martyrdom'. Still, a dead terrorist cannot re-offend. Perhaps this should be a lesson to Israel next time they release thousands of terrorists as a goodwill gesture to the Palestinians.
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  7. My parents have died. I do try to plant seeds with my sister. She is a tough one. She needs prayer, Gods love and to know Jesus as Lord. Pleas pray for her. God bless you
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  8. 75% of churched youth leave the church altogether within two years of graduation from high school. Many of these Christian youth grew up in a social church bubble and their lazy youth leaders never taught them any critical thinking skills, never exposed them to the challeges they would face in college and how to respond to them. As a result many churched youth attend university science classes and their atheistic/agnostic professors convince them that the Bible is wrong, that God didn't create the earth in six days and that Genesis is a fairytale. They graduate from college with a shipwrecked faith and are unable to believe the Bible, not just about Genesis; they can believe any of it. None of it can be trusted. We have one member on this board who is a good example of what I am talking about. She is a young girl just out of university or just about to graduate and she was on fire for Jesus going into college and is a professed atheist now and she credits her atheism, in part to the science professors at her university. OEC puts science in the dirver's seat when it comes to the interpretation of Scripture. It means that the Bible must bow the knee to theories of fallible, little men. It means that science wields more authority than God does, since God's word can't be trusted as a true and accurate record of history. I didn't agree with nonessential. I said I didn't believe that a person had to be YEC in order to be saved. There is quite a bit of difference between saying it is a nonessential issue and saying it is nonessential for salvation. There are all kinds of essential teachings in the Bible that are nonessential for salvation. Do you honestly believe God needs all of us to believe exactly as you do in these nonessential matters in order for us to be effective Christians and ambassadors for Christ? Not at all. But God does expect us to honor and trust His word even when trust His word makes us look foolish in the eyes of the world. Trusting in God's word above everything else DOES make you a more effective Christian and Ambassador for Jesus. In fact, I have never seen an effective Christian who didn’t have that kind of trust. Do you see your light any brighter than theirs? Do you see their belief in these "false doctrines" (your words) in any way hurting their Christian witness? I don't. Do you? The potential is there. You have no idea who all is reading and those who diminish the authority of God’s words in deference to science may be planting seeds that eventually will bring a harvest they didn’t intend. It may not be something you are even aware on this side of eternity. How devestating to find out that someone read your words and agreed that the Bible’s account of creation can’t be trusted to be factual and that maybe one day, down the road, maybe years later that seed is watered by others who don’t think the Bible can be trusted and some day, it germinates and grows in to unbelief, and that person teaches their children the same thing. You never know what kind of harvest will come from seeds of compromise you sow today. I would not want their blood on my hands when I stand before the throne. Look at Abraham. He compromised on God’s word to him and we are still reaping the harvest of that error, 4000 years later. No that doesn’t occur to me because no one’s faith has ever been shipwrecked by those who teach us to trust God’s word. There is not one reported case of someone losing their faith solely based on what the Bible says. I can find scores of people whose faith was shipwrecked when they decided to abandon the biblical record. It didn’t happen overnight, but they end up walking away. OEC is one step down that slope for some people. If someone looks at the Bible and says, I can’t believe that, it is because there is a competing influence that tells them the Bible can’t be trusted to be true. Actually, OEC strengthens faith because there is more scientific evidence to support it and many Bible verses that allude to an old earth and the dateless past. It is more of a stretch to make YEC fit and as Spock said could be a stumbling block to those who are seeking, but cannot get past a mere 24 hour period being the initial creation of the earth. OEC explains it scientifically, with Bible references and does not compromise G-d as the great and wonderful creator; who has been creating from the very, very, very beginning. Before earth was formed.
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  9. 75% of churched youth leave the church altogether within two years of graduation from high school. Many of these Christian youth grew up in a social church bubble and their lazy youth leaders never taught them any critical thinking skills, never exposed them to the challeges they would face in college and how to respond to them. As a result many churched youth attend university science classes and their atheistic/agnostic professors convince them that the Bible is wrong, that God didn't create the earth in six days and that Genesis is a fairytale. They graduate from college with a shipwrecked faith and are unable to believe the Bible, not just about Genesis; they can believe any of it. None of it can be trusted. We have one member on this board who is a good example of what I am talking about. She is a young girl just out of university or just about to graduate and she was on fire for Jesus going into college and is a professed atheist now and she credits her atheism, in part to the science professors at her university. OEC puts science in the dirver's seat when it comes to the interpretation of Scripture. It means that the Bible must bow the knee to theories of fallible, little men. It means that science wields more authority than God does, since God's word can't be trusted as a true and accurate record of history. I didn't agree with nonessential. I said I didn't believe that a person had to be YEC in order to be saved. There is quite a bit of difference between saying it is a nonessential issue and saying it is nonessential for salvation. There are all kinds of essential teachings in the Bible that are nonessential for salvation. Do you honestly believe God needs all of us to believe exactly as you do in these nonessential matters in order for us to be effective Christians and ambassadors for Christ? Not at all. But God does expect us to honor and trust His word even when trust His word makes us look foolish in the eyes of the world. Trusting in God's word above everything else DOES make you a more effective Christian and Ambassador for Jesus. In fact, I have never seen an effective Christian who didn’t have that kind of trust. Do you see your light any brighter than theirs? Do you see their belief in these "false doctrines" (your words) in any way hurting their Christian witness? I don't. Do you? The potential is there. You have no idea who all is reading and those who diminish the authority of God’s words in deference to science may be planting seeds that eventually will bring a harvest they didn’t intend. It may not be something you are even aware on this side of eternity. How devestating to find out that someone read your words and agreed that the Bible’s account of creation can’t be trusted to be factual and that maybe one day, down the road, maybe years later that seed is watered by others who don’t think the Bible can be trusted and some day, it germinates and grows in to unbelief, and that person teaches their children the same thing. You never know what kind of harvest will come from seeds of compromise you sow today. I would not want their blood on my hands when I stand before the throne. Look at Abraham. He compromised on God’s word to him and we are still reaping the harvest of that error, 4000 years later. No that doesn’t occur to me because no one’s faith has ever been shipwrecked by those who teach us to trust God’s word. There is not one reported case of someone losing their faith solely based on what the Bible says. I can find scores of people whose faith was shipwrecked when they decided to abandon the biblical record. It didn’t happen overnight, but they end up walking away. OEC is one step down that slope for some people. If someone looks at the Bible and says, I can’t believe that, it is because there is a competing influence that tells them the Bible can’t be trusted to be true. The reason youth are leaving the church and not seeking to go there can be for what they perceive as a lack of love, judgmental attitudes and critical spirits. I hear Christians on the radio and TV talk disparagingly of others and especially if they do not agree with them politically or religiously . They point out the sins of the world, but do little to really show the love of Christ to others. They are not warm, welcoming, understanding, seeking the good of their neighbor, being there for those in need, inviting them to their homes and showing hospitality. They are not truly being like their Master. I have, at times been guilty of this behavior, during my Christian life. I wonder how many I have repelled for Christ, rather than attracted for Christ. I hope G-d gives me more time to make it up. It makes me sad to see the state of the Church today. It is hard to sometimes to tell the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian in the US today.
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  10. Perhaps if people like you did not make them ignore science while growing up, if people like you did not make the age of the universe a litmus test for one's faith, then perhaps they would not fall away. It is not OEC that drove these people from Jesus, it is the instance they ignore science and being told that to deny the earth was created in less than 140 hours is tantamount to deny God. Those of us who believe the earth is a bit more than 6000 years old also believe the Bible, we do not deny it. Just think how different things would have been for this young girl you speak of if she had not grown up being told that she has to choose between believing in a 144 hour creation cycle or walking away from her faith. If anything is driving people from God, it is YEC not OEC.
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  11. I agree there are scientists who want to disprove the Bible and G-d. There will always be enemies of G-d and we cannot prevent them from seeking their own purposes. Their bent does not invalidate the science. But what a wonder to be able to point to aspects of science in the Bible and see that G-d stated it before man was even able to think of it and discover it. He is the greatest scientist of all! I marvel at ALL the works of His hand.
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  12. The way some posters have "misunderstood" everything I write here makes it hard for me to believe that I was ever a published author.Should I stop posting, or just change my screen name from OldSchool to "Cassandra"? It's an old Greek myth that is fast becoming a reality on this thread.http://voices.yahoo.com/the-tragic-greek-myth-cassandra-548427.html Hey old school, Mind me asking what you have published? Also, would it be impertinent to ask you for a signed free copy of whatever it is? Thanks. A fan, Spock I've been published in VFW magazine -- featured articles about building a military showcase and digital on-demand publishing -- written local articles in the now-defunct Stratford Bard, The Talon magazine -- when I was in Bosnia in 2000 -- and the Fort Hood Sentinel when I was a combat correspondent for HHC 1st Brigade 2nd Armored Division during Desert Storm, but most recently a letter in History magazine re the Battle of Midway. You might find some of the above on line, but most of my published military writing goes back to the early 90's. Thanks. Another military man I see. You and Enoch have another thing in common besides your love for Christ.
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  13. Your comment reminds me of myself when I was a new Christian. I was learning new discoveries about my new love Jesus and wanting to share with others. All was fine in my heart prior to sharing, I was on a spiritual high, but as soon as I shared, even with a good Christian friend, I would "hear" these condemning words "Nobody wants to hear what you have to say." Once my story was out of my mouth, I would sense these words, and feel horrible and depressed. After it happened a few times I concluded it was the evil one trying to stop up my witness. I persevered and kept sharing with others and eventually the bad feelings decreased to where I seldom notice them anymore. Maybe I'm just choosing to ignore them. There have been other deceptions the evil one has tried to pull over the years. God doesn't stop the evil one from messing with us. That is something I was unaware of as I was learning about God and Jesus. I thought I was immune to the evil one's devises. Not true. However, a very wise Christian friend told me to seek God's protection from nightmares. I thought the dreams couldn't be of an evil origin since I was saved, but whether they were or not, once I asked God to remove the nightmares nearly all of them ceased to plague me. Your not believing you are a child of God but rather an orphan or bastard may very well be one of the evil one's biggest battles at the moment. He never got me to doubt my salvation. He tried. One of those nightmares he said to me "You thought you had it all figured out and you were wrong." Well, that was not a very pleasant message to receive, but I knew it was not Jesus speaking. It made me love my Lord even more! I remember waking up and praying to Jesus that I was so grateful I knew the truth about Him and His love for me. So, don't buy into any nonsense the devil is feeding you. Know the truth so well that when a lie crosses your path you instantly know it and reject it.
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  14. Oldschool2....now that is more like it, thanks. Still have my hair, but would probably scratch it off pondering on that one.
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  15. Silviawang.....I don't see how a person can retain both titles. I am an ex catholic and no longer desire to be called a catholic. I consider myself to be a Christian. An orthodox fundamental Christian at that. So, to my thinking, a person who is an orthodox Christian would not be considered to be a catholic even by the catholic church. But yes by the way. I am living proof that a catholic can be saved. I worship only God and not idols.
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  16. I'm sorry but the above is simply not biblical. Jesus told us He is the way....the only way. Please read your Bible for the truth. I would say you are right, Jesus is the way........ he decides who goes to heaven and who doesn't...... we have no right to make that decision....... period.
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  17. one of the best feelings I can remember was the week we got our house paid off. Did it on my 55th birthday.... You are right about it being better to put your money into something that is yours. I would say though that houses are a lot of work over the years... but if you do most of it yourself it's much cheaper than renting.
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  18. Since I have no insurance, I am wondering if there is actually help in the obamacare program? I know it is easy to get tainted information anytime Gov. is involved. I am looking for real anwsers to the question, is it an answer needing help I have heard too many stories and I have not had to deal with it myself.
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