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i agree with other one. problem is, if they're under 18, they're already exhibiting an inability to drink "responsibly", or in moderation. they're drinking to fit in, be cool, and feel high... and those characteristics and reasons will likely follow them into their adult years, totally obliterating any "it's ok" notion. it's ok for (adult) christians to have a drink now and again. it's not ok to get wasted in order to be accepted by one's peers, and it's not ok to try to fill up some emptiness with alcohol that only God can fill.

Psalms 51:10 says, "Create in me a clean heart, O God, And renew a steadfast spirit within me." In Ezekiel 18:31 we read, "Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel? My question would be: Is a "clean heart" the same as a "new heart"? Since both of these verses deal with God's chosen, where does a "clean heart" or a "new heart" come from? Is it up to us or does God do it? I'm asking because there are a few things (sins) in my heart that I can't seem to get rid of. I have a love for money and an addiction. I can't seem to find strength to overcome either one and I need help. If God has made up His mind for me to make myself a new heart, as mentioned in Ez. 18:31, then I'm in big trouble because I can't seem to do it. If God does create a new heart...how do I access His grace?

For many years, before I made a solid choice for God, I use to have a large group of people I hung with. When I chose to follow Christ and scripture, when Christ created in me a new creation, they all disappeared. At first, I was so glad to have a relationship with Him that I didn't notice. After awhile, when I realized I had no true friends in the world, I realized that I no longer walked the same path as they walked and felt alone. Yet, I did find one group of people whom I had overlooked in my past, my family. I began to recreate a relationship with them and my life started to take shape again. I then found others who had the same beliefs I have. Still, to this day, I have only a few friends outside of my family, but these friends are true friends. Ask Christ to help you connect with new friends He wants you to have. IT may take some time, but it will happen. Until then, strengthen what you already have.

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelation 14:6-11

I would agree it's a man noticed thing..... I would not go so far as to say it's not a sign of anything though.

You do realize that the four blood moon thing is not Bible prophecy, but an actual look at documented history..... one of those "well this happened each time it happened for the past 1000 years or so, so we're kind of expecting something to happen (but we have no idea what). I'll give you another one...... we just started a sabbatical year, and for many cycles the American economy suffered huge downturns at the end of these 7 year cycles. Just one more weird thing concerning happenings in the world that seem to align with Jewish holidays and cycles.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst. It's simply the most prudent approach. Matthew 25:1-13

hummm, that's a good point.

I agree, we should be joyful in thanksgiving to Our Father for Blessing us with meat. Might not be good for visitors to this forum to mistake that joy for joking about the death or mistreatment of God's Creatures. Thank You Father for All Your Blessings

Amen~! Praying~!

My Precious Precious Sister... You are not alone but rather than go into MY personal experiences,,,,,as I find it does not really help to hear anyones war stories,,,,,as a matter of fact at times we can be made to feel they are just minimizing our struggles.............that is the last thing I would ever want to do because I know how badly you are hurt & it breaks my heart,,,,,,so let me say it this way.... From much experience with adult children(& knowing you and the loving mom you are)I think I can say with every confidence that your children never(not for a moment)ever STOP loving you .....I truly believe that they go through periods in their life that they do not love themselves & they take it out one the one they love the very most,their mother......the one that loves them unconditionally.....& they know that Turtle,,,,I believe one day you are going to hear the words I hear all the time....."I always loved you Mom & I will always love you"...............Darling Sister,there was I time I thought just like you and I gave up completely & just entrusted my son to our Father.................I said to myself that HE only entrusted him to my care for a little while,as I was needed & it was time to give him back............thats when things changed,& it was not over night,,,,it took years.But I surrendered ,I had no control,I had nothing left that I could do and with my own submission in it& just trusting God,,,,,,God Comforted me those years,,I never worried,I never felt lonely,I never felt unloved...................it took a Miracle to bring my son to Christ & God is full of them but we have to let go & let God.It is not easy Beloved,it hurts but not for long................they love you,trust in our Father BTW,I love you too You Sis,Kwik(standing in the gap!!!!!!)

Praying for your situation.

Living in the New Jerusalem. Rev 21 9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. John 14 1“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in Goda ; believe also in me. 2My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4You know the way to the place where I am going.”

In the Millennium Age, the body of Christ will be ruling and reigning with Christ. At the Bema Seat Judgment of Christ, we will receive our rewards, and I believe that includes our job descriptions for the Millennial Reign. We will be in roles that will include levels of government of vast geographic territories, and also roles of administrating areas of infrastructural restoration of cities and nations. Large roles of great authority all the way down to smaller roles, but all with authority, as we will be in our immortal bodies and functioning in perfect order---all to restore the earth destroyed by so much chaos, and to bring and maintain peace and order to the peoples of the world, not to mention to be the extension of the arm of the Lord in distributing that rod of iron for correction. We will be the bringers of the truth about Jesus Christ to the nations who will be born, so that they will have their names written in that Book of Life which will be opened at the end of this era. We will be very busy! The time will just fly by!