Jump to content

Leaderboard

Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 03/18/2016 in all areas

  1. Your ability to misapply scripture doesn't count for anything, even though you're quite good at it. My prayer is that you, and the rest of the body of Christ, will have both the discernment and the zeal to endure to the end.
    3 points
  2. No, no, no. The great tribulation is not a time God's judgment and wrath. I know you desperately need such a mishmash to be true because its one of the main pillars supporting the pre-trib fallacy but it is NOT true. The great tribulation is a time when believers are persecuted. Read Revelation 7. It's stated very clearly there. Believers are also clearly mentioned in several places between Revelation 6 and 18. The rapture is mentioned as the first reaping in Revelation 14:14-16, remember? If you want to know the timing of when the dead in Christ rise and those alive are changed, and all are caught up, then look to when Jesus and Paul declared it will happen. It does no good to make stuff up. Start by identifying the last trumpet, the trumpet of God, and when the last day is. Don't adjust what the Bible says to fit what you want it to say. Prophecy is not fulfilled according to the wishes of man but according to the will of God.
    3 points
  3. I did. And like usual you came up wrong. You continually twist the facts to suit your agenda, though for the life of me I haven't figured out what that is yet. The NRA is the largest legal entity in the US and its dedicated to protecting gun rights-they are rarely, if ever, wrong on gun related matters. If they say someone is anti gun, they are anti gun. And if one honestly took a look at the evidence one will see that once again, the NRA is right.
    2 points
  4. See here's the thing. I trust the NRA before I trust you. You won't be changing my mind anytime soon. God bless.
    2 points
  5. I think that might be sarcasm. That's the way I took it anyway.
    2 points
  6. Nothing you posted here negates the Pretrib Rapture. These comments are just your opinion.
    2 points
  7. It is a foolish man that regards not the eternal things... that which God has told us that He's burning up when His Word is accomplished in them are the things we should give little account toward. After all we continue for eternity and this world does not 1 Co 7:30-31 30 those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, 31 and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away. NKJV What sort of people, that claim to be of God, try to persuade us to want from this place or focus upon this place when God clearly warns us of the deceit that lies within that which passes away Mt 13:22 22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. KJV Imagine the man who spends his whole life in pursuit of that which God has said I am not keeping... How shall he account to God for this >?< Love, Steven
    2 points
  8. As I said to Spock, I never said SHE was Satan, I was pointing out the CONNECTIONS to "her" and her SOURCE which is Satan, showing that "she" is spiritual and not physical, alluding to how only "her" WORKS are reflected and manifested in the PHYSICAL who btw share the same title with Babylon the great. I wasn't saying WHO I thought "she" was, just as to WHO I know "she" isn't .. and "she" certainly is not America. I suggest looking at Nahum & Zephaniah for added clues. Serving.
    2 points
  9. I have actual blood relatives I cannot stand to be around and very rarely see them because of this. Being family does not mean you have to like everyone.
    2 points
  10. it signifies different empires Roman, Babylonian Persian,,ect
    2 points
  11. you have assumed and added to what is not scriptural, unless you can define, or by dictionary or strongs that what you just wrote is what it is, and that it is at the time prior to the tribulation, you have just given , a opinion, and false teaching here,? this is not what the scripture says, how can you set this up as scripture ?and Gods word ?? this is not correct, and not what scripture states, you are out of context on this, and that is not truth !!!
    2 points
  12. okay you tell me how you came too believe about the so called pre trib rapture is true (1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. (you tell me how this is out of context )
    2 points
  13. I think it was a calculated can't lose move by Obama. If he is confirmed it is a win, if he is not Obama can use it against the GOP. Also the GOP has to factor in how sure they are they will win in November , this guy is way better than anyone Hillary would nominate.
    2 points
  14. 1. Ok, I'll admit I may have been heavily influenced by hearing something on the news that Garland was anti-gun rights. Then I read several articles stating the same. Now after reading what I could find stating facts about Garland, there really is little to form an opinion on his stance. I'm even beginning to think Obama may have calculated in the fact that the establishment was going to block his nomination anyway, and this may contribute to more disintegration of the Republican party. I am getting tired of news not reporting, but trying to influence everyones opinion. I think I'll count this one as you made a great point and I was wrong. 2. Fair enough. I don't know if anyone actually fits entirely in one box!
    2 points
  15. Pharao, there is nobody in this whole world who can convince you to believe in God this is something you need to decide, you are the one in charge to make the choice of to believe in God or not. God gave us all a free will to choose who we will serve. The Holy Spirit is the only One who can convince you of your need for Jesus in your life. You can ask all kinds of questions to question God but it really you only who can make this choice.. Choose Salvation because tomorrow might never come~~ "Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Cor. 6:2) The choice is yours~~
    2 points
  16. 1. I don't think Obama is stupid, he has caused enough intention damage to be stupid. His priority is gun control, and news from many sources label Garland as against gun rights. Am I mistaken? Possibly. 2. I read your words, and you may feel like you don't fit in any box, but the truth is, we all do. We believe what we believe and it shows in our words. Luke 6:46 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Am I mistaken? Possibly. You have the chance to prove me wrong with your words, and if you need to resort to insulting as you have in the past, it only works against you.
    2 points
  17. I dont know why you even waste your time arguing with him. hes your classic troll, just here to stir up trouble. I have a feeling if the majority of this board was sanders fans, hed be pushing trump on us.
    2 points
  18. A figure of speech as an insult. By all news accounts I have read, Garland is counted as anti-gun rights and Obama made it known his goal for this year is to make a change in gun rights. To which you respond by calling it hysteria, so your words in this thread and others do lead me to think you are more inclined to support the DNC, which is not an insult.
    2 points
  19. The phrase "with an ounce of logic or common sense" is, I would say, impossible to prove has any truth in it. Can we measure either logic or common sense by weighing them in ounces? One can confirm or deny something without being condescending. Scripture backs this up, but Joe has already shown you this. Vendtre, disagreeing is fine, but insulting and calling it truth?
    2 points
  20. So if you say someone here has no common sense, you think that its not an insult because you perceive it to be a truth?
    2 points
  21. Hello Penelope83. You are truly blessed that The Lord is calling to you. I recommend reading The Gospel of John. Here is a link to the Gospel online in translation that I personally find easy to read: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=ESV
    2 points
  22. The length of time isn't the point, I agree, and the significance of actions before hand do relate but the point being the people being brought out as the trumpet sound grew louder and louder. An old testament type of the trump of God as His people were brought out of the camp. It isn't meant to be an intellectual line upon line verse upon verse proof of anything but an illumination of something we will experience, different but the same. The significance of the third day is that Jesus rose on the third day. The text in Ex. 19 repeats the third day a number of times. Jesus making reference to Jonah about three days and nights is part of what displays a significance of the third day. If any of the writers of the New Testament had to list every piece of understanding of every verse of the Old Testament they would have past away before they could ever finish. There is nothing unbiblical of what I'm showing and I'm not stating doctrine but showing forth a place where what we believe is actually played out in the lives of the children of Israel. After all, those things where written for our learning. We do spend far to much time being technical and far to little time letting the word minister to our hearts. I didn't right the post to you specifically and I thought it was clear I wasn't disputing or proving any point other than trying to help a few understand that our understanding of the resurrection can be taken further than just an argument over timing. But deeper into an ability to stay awake and be ready without a specific timing motivation one way or another. I'm not arguing over the last trump but showing an old testament type of it.
    2 points
  23. well i'd rather seek the Lord in a desert and find Him then stand before him only to find out there are no places in heaven given for warming benches listening to false teachers on Sunday.
    2 points
  24. Sometimes the rider governs the horse, sometimes the horse dominates the rider. Papal Rome sometimes controlled the monarchs of the Holy Roman Empire, and sometimes those monarchs controlled the papacy. Satan is a woman? A woman in prophetic terms is a group of believers in a religion: Israel and Judah were "women" "married" to YHWH, the Church is the Bride of Christ. The Great Harlot fornicates with the kings of the earth: she is a religious organization, not Satan. Satan inspired her adulterous ways, but he is not her.
    2 points
  25. Jesus says you that believe in me, ,SHALL, have TRIBULATION !! point, made in matthew 24, Jesus said if you follow me you must deny your self, and take up your CROSS, we may suffer and be persecuted and beaten , and killed for our faith in HIM ! fact. its in the WORDS of our SAVIOR, who came to SAVE us ? and so as they hated me, and the prophets, and killed Jesus , we are warned, we are sent out as the sheep to the slaughter, .fact, so do not believe them Jesus said, do not be deceived, , do not let any man ,deceive you or say He has come,. He is in the desert, or He is here, for as the sun is darken and the lightning crosses the sky, so will it be at the coming of Jesus, for every eye will see, and every eye will know, that Jesus has come, it is no secret hiding place ? and so you are not in darkness that are filled with the spirit, for those that are not filled with the spirit, and do not seek Yahweh, He will come as a thief in the night to them, but we know that believe of the seasons and days we need not be told, why ??? for the anointed times of the feast days tells us when He is coming, and when to be watching and alert, for if the strong man knew when the thief was coming ,he would have been waiting and it would not be, so we are given the times and seasons and Gods feast days to watch and be obedient, and if you as a believer are not watching this, then we need to start immediately, for there is no secret rapture, for the scriptures are talking about a time of understanding between believers and there God, and the unbelievers are not seeking, and so the parable of the Ten virgins, is vital, for we know when Jesus will return, but those that are not ready will not enter, for they were not seeking and they were not concern to be watching and observing the signs given to us, , but we are told, you are going to suffer for what you believe, and for His name, sake , we are killed all the day long, but satan says, like he did to eve , did he not tell her, you will not surely die ?? satan tells the churches of the Christians today, you will not be left to suffer , you will not die ? you get to be RAOTURED before the TRIBULATION, this is mans fall to believe another lie, to lead him on the wide and broad road to hell and destruction, and its a doctrine from demons, so that you are not prepared, and you lose your faith in God, so that you think you escape, these things, you will not surely die, you get RAPTURED, so don't listen to any scripture or anything God says, , this is what many follow, !! and it will bring a end to them and to those around them for they never knew the lord, only by there lips, but there hearts were never in it, and they will cry later, when its all said and done at judgment day , lord ,lord, remember me ? the parable of the wheat and the tares, are our churches , not all members in the churches are going to be saved !! fact and truth , for the one saying Lord , Lord are people that know about jesus and were like we, but was never really or truly saved,,fact and truth but God tells us to be strong in the faith and believe, and He that endures until the end shall be saved , so let us praise Him and be joyful for our trials and testing is for our faith , and so as refiners fire we are purified, and cleansed, and we focus and stay on course following His ways, blessings and peace, I pray this opens some eyes, God is calling , and its time to heed the call....
    2 points
  26. Why do you persist in failing to distinguish between tribulation, judgment, and wrath? Why do you continue to make such a mishmash out of them? I'm afraid that your love of the pre-trib fallacy has clouded you mind.
    2 points
  27. Welcome Penelope to Worthy You are asking where to begin in your Christian walk? How about by reading the Bible which is Gods Word ? Do you know Jesus? Jesus is the key to Christianity ,it is not religion what you need but a relationship with Jesus who died for you and me on the cross. Do you know Jesus? For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that if Penelope believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. John3:16 Maybe we can go step by step, do you know who Jesus is?
    2 points
  28. no it does not , take it out of context and it will ? Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    2 points
  29. 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    2 points
  30. yes we have had much talk about this, and I have to present these scriptures to all that believe that the rapture will come before trials and tribulation, and even the attacks on your selves and the events of destruction hit, for many that do believe that they escape by Rapture, before anything happens to them, I want to warn them, and all brothers and sisters , for the tribulation, period, is when we are faced with hardship and trials that could be from small to great , from life to death as many had to suffer being killed and every day , for their faith in Jesus , even today, so with that said, the scriptures and the spirit tells the churches, in revelation, and in matthew and all through the bible we are told, this,. and we cannot dismiss this, for many say the tribulation saints is not us, and we don't get killed, its them and not us, and it continues, for the lack of knowledge , my people perish says the Lord God, and so this is what we are told for a answer to the faith and where we stand, before God, for the world is evil and its satan s world, for now and so God tells us, this, HE THAT ENDURES UNTIL THE END SHALL BE SAVED !!! not the luke warm Christians , not the non believers, not any that starts to believe and then turns and rejects God, but those that are filled in the spirit , and or following the laws and commandments and instructions of God, and endures until the end , to be able to go through the bad times, even leading up to death for a lot of believers, this is what we are told, so do not be deceived to believe a lie, you must over come, and endure...until the end of your time on earth..!!! Matthew 24:13 KJV)But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Mark 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended. Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 2 Timothy 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. 2 Timothy 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2 Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. Hebrews 6:15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. Revelations 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelations 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Revelations 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. blessings and truth to you , for we need to be alert and watchful for we do not know when the son of man returns , but do all that you can to be doing the right thing and continue to follow God, no matter what happens, blessings and peace be with you  
    2 points
  31. same reason God did not lead Jesus to the sick houses of that day - because of their unbelief Mat 13:54-58 KJV (54) And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works? (55) Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? (56) And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? (57) And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. (58) And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. God isn't forcing anyone to receive eternal life out of respect for their free will that He gave them, so He's not going to force anyone to receive mortal life either - over and over again, Jesus put the emphasis on people's faith - belief in God and His word Mat 9:29 KJV (29) Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. Mat 9:22 KJV (22) But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour. Mat 15:28 KJV (28) Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Luk 18:42 KJV (42) And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee. Luk 17:19 KJV (19) And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole. but don't miss this - everyone that came to Jesus got healed
    1 point
  32. thank you Sister! but let me be quick to admit that i get all my good stuff from God
    1 point
  33. disciplehelovestoo; I appreciated reading what you wrote. Thank you for sharing. and Praise the Lord for His Amazing Mercy and Grace.
    1 point
  34. [1]If you want healing, you don't call God's Ministers, Frauds. [2] Although if you do find a person with the gifts of healings, It would be good to let them stir up that gift and use it. But the word of God is health [Medicine] to ALL our flesh. Prov 4: 22. So you can believe what God has said in His word, and be healed. Isaiah 53: 3 says Jesus was a man of pains and acquainted with sickness [Our pains and sicknesses]. V4 says SURELY Jesus has taken our sicknesses and pains. V5 says By the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Matt 8: 17 backs this up. 1 Pet 2: 24, says, by the sripes of Jesus we WERE healed, And just like Jesus has taken our sins, He has taken our sicknesses. So you can stand on God's word, and receive healing by your own faith in God's word.
    1 point
  35. Now we need to understand who Israel is....What were the promises made to Jacob?If one were to look,they would see the fulfillment in the Christian nations of today... So again the Church and Israel,cannot be seperated...
    1 point
  36. Yes Jesus was talking to Jews, but much of what he said applied to all future believers. You need more evidence if you want to restrict the use of the word elect to Jews only in Mathew 24.
    1 point
  37. Why do you think the elect are just Jew's?That is not the truth.That comes from seperating the Church from Israel,when Israel has always been the Church....
    1 point
  38. Mat 17:14-20 KJV (14) And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying, (15) Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water. (16) And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him. (17) Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me. (18) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. (19) Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? (20) And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. we know that the disciples had faith, that's why they were with Jesus - but they also had unbelief, according to the Master. we get more detail from the other account of this: Mar 9:14-29 KJV (14) And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them. (15) And straightway all the people, when they beheld him, were greatly amazed, and running to him saluted him. (16) And he asked the scribes, What question ye with them? (17) And one of the multitude answered and said, Master, I have brought unto thee my son, which hath a dumb spirit; (18) And wheresoever he taketh him, he teareth him: and he foameth, and gnasheth with his teeth, and pineth away: and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not. (19) He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me. (20) And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming. (21) And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child. (22) And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us. (23) Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. (24) And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. (25) When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. (26) And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. (27) But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose. (28) And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? (29) And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting. you have to consider both accounts to get the whole picture and understand Jesus' answer to the disciples' question "why could we not cast him out?" the boy's actions as recorded in verses 18 and 20 must have been a powerful display to see; inspiring natural fear-based unbelief, based on the input of the disciples' 5 senses; this kind of natural unbelief is brought under control through fasting - which disciplines one to not be moved by the 'reports' of one's 5 senses; and by prayer - prayer focuses one on God, instead of what is perceived in the natural realm - so 'this kind of unbelief comes out only by prayer and fasting' - referring to the disciples' unbelief, which bound their faith and rendered them ineffective at commanding the dumb and deaf spirit to come out of the boy
    1 point
  39. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen... and it is seen in those listed and how it was made evident by their possession of it in their lives Heb 11
    1 point
  40. Faith vs Unbelief – Faith believes the Word of God; but unbelief questions it (Psa 106:24). – Faith holds fast to a promise of God to help; but unbelief says, “How can these things be?” (Rom 4:19-21; 2 Kings 7:2; John 3:11,12). – Faith will make you see love in the heart of Christ; but unbelief will imagine wrath in his heart (Matt 15:22,28; Num 13; 2 Chron 14:3). – Faith will give comfort in the midst of fears; but unbelief causes fears in the midst of comfort (2 Chron 20:20,21; Matt 8:26; Luke 24:26,27). – Faith will suck sweetness out of God’s rod; but unbelief can find no comfort in his greatest mercies (Psa 23:4; Num 21). – Faith makes great burdens light; but unbelief makes light ones heavy (2 Cor 4:1; 14-18; Mal 1:12,13). – Faith helps us when we are down; but unbelief throws us down when we are up (Micah 7:8-10; Heb 4:11). – Faith brings us near to God when we are far from him; but unbelief puts us far from God when we are near to him (Heb 10:22; 3:12,13). – Where faith reigns, it declares men to be the friends of God; but where unbelief reigns, it declares them to be his enemies (John 3:23; Heb 3:18; Rev 21:8). – Faith puts a man under grace; but unbelief holds him under wrath (Rom 3:24-26; 14:6; Eph 2:8; John 3:36; 1 John 5:10; Heb 3:17; Mark 16:16). – Faith purifies the heart; but unbelief keeps it polluted and impure (Acts 15:9; Titus 1:15,16). – By faith, the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us; but by unbelief, we are shut up under the law to perish (Rom 4:23,24; 11:32; Gal 3:23). – Faith makes our work acceptable to God through Christ; but work done in unbelief is sin. For without faith it is impossible to please him (Heb 11:4; Rom 14:23; Heb 6:6). – Faith gives us peace and comfort in our souls; but unbelief works trouble and trial, like the restless waves of the sea (Rom 5:1; James 1:6). – Faith makes us to see preciousness in Christ; but unbelief sees no form, beauty, or comeliness in him (1 Peter 2:7; Isa 53:2,3). – By faith we have our life in Christ’s fullness; but by unbelief we starve and pine away (Gal 2:20). – Faith gives us the victory over the law, sin, death, the devil, and all evils; but unbelief lays us obnoxious to them all (1 John 5:4,5; Luke 12:46). – Faith will show us more excellence in things not seen, than in them that are; but unbelief sees more in things that are seen, than in things that will be hereafter;. (2 Cor 4:18; Heb 11:24-27; 1 Cor 15:32). – Faith makes the ways of God pleasant and admirable; but unbelief makes them heavy and hard (Gal 5:6; 1 Cor 12:10,11; John 6:60; Psa 2:3). – By faith Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob possessed the land of promise; but because of unbelief, neither Aaron, nor Moses, nor Miriam could get there (Heb 11:9; 3:19). – By faith the children of Israel passed through the Red Sea; but by unbelief the generality of them perished in the wilderness (Heb 11:29; Jude 5). – By faith Gideon did more with three hundred men, and a few empty pitchers, than all the twelve tribes could do, because they believed not God (Judg 7:16-22; Num 14:11,14). – By faith Peter walked on the water; but by unbelief he began to sink (Matt 14:28-30). – John Bunyan ---------------------------------- Mark 9:24 23And Jesus said to him, "'If You can?' All things are possible to him who believes." 24Immediately the boy's father cried out and said, "I do believe; help my unbelief." 25When Jesus saw that a crowd was rapidly gathering, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, "You deaf and mute spirit, I command you, come out of him and do not enter him again."…
    1 point
  41. Unbelief is no faith at all; complete lack of.
    1 point
  42. Unbelief is upside down faith
    1 point
  43. Remember, in coutnries and places where unbelief reigns, FAITH is neither welcome nor permitted, not even to heal people or to raise the dead to live in Christ Jesus. In all the countries, and places, where another religion holds power, true believers are not welcome UNLESS they're quiet. ((JESUS would still be alive TODAY if He had just stayed QUIET !!! ))
    1 point
  44. i see; i would say that while faith is a constant, the effectiveness of faith certainly varies inversely to unbelief - the more unbelief, the less effective faith is; the less unbelief, the more effective faith is. unbelief for me is a catch-all term to represent anything that counters belief in God's word ('faith'); whether it is belief on some false religion; symptoms of sickness 'reported' by our own bodies, negative reports from doctors, poverty, oppression, depression, etc.; wrong teaching about God's will for us to live lives that reflect His blessing on us as reborn believers; or simply ignorance of the magnitude of blessing that Jesus bought for us - as you put it, 'faith in something else, taking the place of Jesus. "instead of" Jesus'
    1 point
  45. start with 90% unbelief. next, 70% unbelief. has faith increased ? in one way, it's still the same "grain of mustard seed" size ((no need to have more than that, and rare to have that much without unbelief hindering big time)) in another way, it's increased from 10% to 30%. OR, switching examples: in china, in africa, healing has been a daily part of life for ekklesia. expected and enjoyed grace from Yahweh in Yahshua. a missionary to china recently returned from there and reported that unbelievers, pagan chinese, see the dead raised up ((just to physical life again)) after a week in the morgue/ hospital more often than believers do simply because there's so many more unbelievers ((with 'faith' in something else)). but in the usa, it is rare. not unheard of , but rare. why ? Jesus said why. also, instead of faith in Jesus, 'unbelief' may be dis-belief or belief in something else. faith in something else, taking the place of Jesus. "instead of" Jesus. this is most common TODAY.
    1 point
  46. not sure what you're saying; faith is a gift from God and everyone gets 'the measure', so faith neither increases or decreases - the variable is unbelief
    1 point
  47. Sometimes God intervenes with miraculous healing. Other times He leads us to natural or medical means. I have an incurable illness. It has devastated pretty much every area of my life. God has led me to natural means to overcome this. As long as I employ them, I am relatively free of its effects. There are two big things that are wrong that I am aware of. One is something is very wrong with how my body uses methyl B12 (the methyl form of vitamin B12) - my body uses it up too fast and so I have to take massive doses every day to keep up. The other is there is something wrong with my body's ability to produce enough NAD+ and thus supply the mitochondria of my cells with what they need to work properly, and supplementing with a form of Vit B3, a purified form of nicotinamide riboside, supplies the missing NAD+ and allows my mitochondria to produce the power my cells need. The results have been phenomenal. As long as I take these, I see a reversal of my symptoms, and not only do I see a reversal of my symptoms, but since I started taking a purified form of nicotimamide riboside 5 months ago, I am seeing a rejuvenation of my body which is actually becoming visibly noticable.
    1 point
×
×
  • Create New...