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Excellently said. Our redeemer is our champion.

I have never been persecuted for my faith in any way or by anyone. After reading some of the above, I am just heartbroken for all of you that had these things happen. But, no matter, the Lord is with you; it's your persecutors who need to worry. May He continue to bless all of you and keep you close to Him.

Blessings Palyseiwicz Welcome to Worthy....nice to meet you and hope to hear back from you soon,Praise Jesus!The things is,in case you didn't realize & it seems even our seasoned members may have not realized that you cannot respond in the Q & A.....it is an 'answer only" Forum & not a discussion Forum ......after which the best answer is decided........so ,I sent you a PM with some posting info & look forward to seeing you begin a Worthy Welcome Thread where you can acquire the minimum required posts to access our other Sections/Forums Also,I have no idea how to respond to your OP With love-in Christ,Kwik

I do remember...........Id like to buy the world a coke & bring them to the foot of the cross to introduce them to the real thing,,,,,,JESUS! The REAL ONE!!

Yes, we should always distinguish between the victimizers and the victims (and this applies to all false religions, whether RCC, Mormonism, Judaism, Islam, etc.). The clergy, the hierarchy, and the system are the victimizers since they promote lies to keep their adherents in bondage. The adherents are the victims, and many are willing victims (almost like the Stockholm Syndrome). But all men have a responsibility to search for the truth, and study the Scriptures (without reference to what their religion teaches).

What church is the true church, the church Jesus Christ founded? Paul never taught Jesus + some church brings salvation, Paul never taught Jesus + certain sacraments brings salvation, Paul never taught Jesus plus legalism brings salvation, Paul never taught Jesus + purgatory brings salvation, Paul never taught circumcision brings salvation, Paul taught only Jesus + nothing else brings salvation. We cannot do anything, or add anything to all Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit did to save mankind. All we need do is believe in Him and in Him who sent Him. Galatians 1: 6, I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7, Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9, As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10, For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11, But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12, For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christs church is not a building or a particular religious group with some special name? The new Testament Church, of which Jesus Christ is the head is a called out body of people of all nations who have been born again and who have lived a true Christian life and died in the faith. It also includes all those who are alive in Christ today. This present church is called the "ekklesia" of the New Testament times, called out of this world to evangelize the world in this age. 'What is the infallible rule of faith?' remains the a major dividing issue between Catholics and Protestants. And rightly so. We are building on different foundations. The Roman Catholic answers something like this, 'God's Word is found in the Bible and in Tradition. But you can't understand the Bible correctly. As for Tradition, no one knows exactly what it contains. Therefore you must submit without reservations to the Pope and the bishops of the Roman church. The teaching of the Catholic magisterium is the infallible rule of faith.' An Evangelical answers differently, 'The Holy Scriptures are able to make us wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that God's people may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.' The church, in its largest signification is the whole company of redeemed in all ages, in Heaven and in Earth (Eph. 3:1-11; Heb. 12:23). It is the spiritual people who have been made members of the universial family of God. The church in this sense is the body of Christ, and it does not consist of saved and unsaved people. It is not a group of individuals associated together for social and benevolent purposes, as seems to be on every hand in most worldly church gatherings. It is the body of people indwelt by God through the Holy Spirit and through whom God works in the world. The church is a supernatural body of believers filled with the presence and power of God as individuals conform to the gospel of Christ. The church is like a family in its social life, yet is unlike a family in its formation. Each local church is a part of the universal church in the broad sense. However there are many in local churches that do not belong to the body of Christ, and therefore they are not a true part of the universal church of the New Testament.

Your testimony is amazing, It tells that Jesus knew their ways and had propose to himself to frustrate their plans, by putting his Spirit in you while you were still in the womb to protect you from their rituals, it is an amazing testimony. You were never theirs from the beginning, but they were very stubborn. God bless

baptism is a ritual of cleansing. I think it is to symbolize the washing away of the old you and the world that you were about, before you came to Jesus and was saved.

Baptism is an outward sign of what took place on the inside of our heart the moment we accepted Christ as our Savior as our sins were washed away. Being baptized is an outward testimony of an inner work that took place in your life. Baptism is nothing to be ashamed of or be afraid of it is only following in the footsteps of Jesus as his disciple. Of course those who do not follow in Christ's footsteps will not experience the blessings that come from obedience to being baptized.

Recently I learned while speaking to a LDS believer that they believe in the willful worship of angels. I do consider the LDS to be a cult as they deviate from the GodHead. But I have love for them and am not hostile and will try to minister to their needs and confusion if at all possible.

Hi I do follow worthy. Being away does not mean I am not following it.. I am just wordless these days, I have too much going on in my life to be watching debates.

I certainly don't have blinder on for I understand what they are doing and sometimes when. And for the record as I have stated for years, i don't hate Muslims, but I do hate Islam.... it is an evil theocracy that's only real goal is to submit the whole world to Allah through the use of Sharia Law. Every time I meet a Muslim I pray for their salvation..... but I don't turn my back on them, and I certainly am not going to help them destroy Western Civilization nor watch them and do nothing about it.... so think as you will, but it's good that some of us are watching them.

Yes.

because of your attitude. I am not afraid of death any more than you and to go be with Jesus would be my greatest wish tonight...... but not having my grand kids suffer at the hands of these people just sort of sets me back..... and don't tell me that God won't let that happen for it happens all over the world every day... and if I could stop it in some way and don't.... well I have no respect for anyone who would take that road even for a short trip.

Amen, I can't wait to go home also! However, don't we have any obligation to keep the freedom in this country to worship the one true God? What about our kids? The Muslims have a battle plan, they have a timeline, and Other one has shown they are keeping on schedule. Its not an unknown anymore, so to reference the enemies battle plan does not change our hope, it is referenced to wake people up so we can protect our children. I am more than ready to go right now, but there is much to do until He calls me.

13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

I think the couple that were fined a huge amount and lost thier bakery business for not being a part of a gay wedding would disagree with you.... and it doesn't take a lot of common thought to see that is just the beginning... Hillary has already told us that if she wins we are just going to have to change some of our beliefs.... or face legal problems. We're not being killed yet, but according to what I read on Jihadi web sites that's about five to ten years away if Hillary wins.

Well get your preaching shoes on for it looks like we are going to have multiple millions of Muslims to preach to shortly..

yes

That statement may not be entirely true. Persecution is not only physical, but spiritual too and the afflictions can be just as tormenting, only you don't see the physical scars, though, physical scars can result also. But i take your point of what is visible to the eyes and general sphere of daily life in those countries. As i heard one saying and it goes something like this " Slavery still exist, just the chains are off, meaning economic manipulations ect. "

I know that this thread is a bit older. When I became Christian around ten years I didn't see a reason to be baptized. I found God, I am saved, so why do I need to be baptized? I never thought about this question anymore. I made a lot of steps in faith during this time. I went studying and got to know some Christians who taught me a lot about what Christianity can be like. I grew up in a Catholic area. In my area Catholics are famous for preaching water and drinking wine. In fact they are waisting a lot of money for luxery instead of those in need. I know that not ever Catholic is like that. During my time at university I learned that Christianity is different to that. There are people out there who really follow Jesus. But that is not the topic. It took a long time until I started thinking about being baptized. I understood that I recognized God and followed him. The question was: Is it necessary? When you look into the bible everyone who starts to follow God is baptized afterwards. In Mark 16, 16 is written: "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." (English Standard Version). This vers does not tell us that those who are not baptized are condemned. Those who do not believe are condemned. Obviously being baptized and believing belongs togehter. I don't know why but it is like that. I decided to be baptized around one year ago. When I talked to my pastor about it he started to explain me everything about it. He told me that from that day on I make a kind of contract with God. I am really his through it. I cannot really write about this talk because I don't remember it good enough. But when I left his office I decided to walk home. It was cold and dark and I had to walk home around 15 minutes. Something in myself started fighting. Something tried to tell me that I am not good enough to belong to God and really was undecided. Should I be baptized? A bit later that evening God gave me peace about it. I was baptized around a month later and what is different? The world is as bad/good as before. But I was changed by it. I made very big steps in faith and it is worth it. It was bigger than I expected. Even if you won't read it because you do not follow worthy anymore, maybe someone else will have your question and gets encouraged by my story. So I decided to leave it here.

Correct. The Church of the LDS and the Jehovah's Witnesses have long been regarded as cults because of their heterodox beliefs. And the cult of Mary has dominated the RCC for a long time. At the same time, we need to distinguish between those who promote false doctrines and those who are the victims of false doctrines. The adherents of these cults are frequently upstanding citizens with good moral values. However, they have been deceived because they do not believe the true Gospel, or on the true Christ of the Bible.

Unborn babies react to things eg: kicking and rolling which is just the nirmal process of development, as well as reacting to, say sunlight - if the mum exposes her bare stomach to sunlight, the baby kicks. (I've done this with my first child). As far as memory is concerned, I've always believed memory serves a purpose, recall for learning, coping mechanism etc, I'm not sure what purpose memory in the womb would serve. Just my opinion anyway?

We all need a way to organize and understand written communication. The danger in any hermeneutic system is the same as in any system of laws that govern. There is no law that can be written that can make a person righteous if they followed it. There is no hermeneutic law that would make interpretations 100% correct if they followed them. Proper interpretation of scripture comes from walking with the author. Faith is expressed through works. When one preaches Christ and him crucified as one to receive as King of Kings and Lord of Lord's and someone received Christ in unto themselves they become born again. They are babes in Christ who must receive the milk of the word to grow by learning by what he says to do and doing it. As a person grows by following the works Christ teaches them to do they also begin to grow in understanding of the more complex scriptures that Peter spoke about that Paul wrote among others. I once made the mistake of making the study of scripture an intellectual exercise. That led me to error through my own understanding. I wafted through commentary after commentary and book after book. I became a regular at the "Christian Mars Hill" where the "greats" came to talk about their new insights. All that did was insight debate, envy and deceit. Mostly self deception through pride. Then I met a man who told me to put my bible on the shelf before I hurt myself or someone else and go with him out into the field and preform actual ministry bring men and women to Christ through the example of Christ in us doing for us that which we could not do for ourselves while we were still in the flesh. I agreed and obeyed. As I preformed the works of righteousness found in Christ I began to change and to see clearer. Old ideas that were mere intellectual exercises in futility to understand written words in God's book were destroyed in my mind. I learned through doing what it is that James meant when he said Faith Without Works Is Dead. It would be a grave error for me to think that I could come back to the old Christian Mars Hill and change the minds of them through intellectual discussion. It didn't work for Paul at Mars Hill and I thank him for the example that I might not repeat. Earlier in the thread I read where it was condemned to understand the scriptures experientially. I believe that to be a grave error for it was by experience that all who came to know God historically in scripture did so. There is not one single case of a person coming to know God through intellectual exercise. There are many that get and stay lost through it like the Pharisees. We all have to choose what we believe. As for me I am with Joshua who said he and his house would serve (Do the works of) the LORD. Today I read the bible to better understand what to do in service that is loving God and my neighbor and leave intellectual stuff to those who follow their intellect.

I have memories from age 3.

I believe that the original sin of Adam separated mankind from God. Our Spirits that allow us to have fellowship with God died. This is why we need to be born again to become children of God. The natural man or baby has a sin nature, the nature of Adam, the old man. Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. Rom 5:16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification. Rom 5:17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.) Rom 5:18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous. Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, Rom 5:21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Born from above, born again, born anew, born of the Spirit, born of God all mean the same thing. The way to become a child of God, born into God;s kingdom is to receive Christ. Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [believe means to trust in, rely upon, cling to, adhere to], The just shall live by his faith. Romans 1:17 This is an act of receiving Him for whom He says He is: The Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world, Immanuel (God with us) the I AM, the Messiah, the One who has power to lay down His own life and take it up again--the all powerful One, the Creator of the universe and everything in it, Son of God and Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Door, the Way the Truth and the Life, the One Who was God and existed with God in the beginning, The Word. By receiving Him and trusting in His name we are given the authority to become born of God and children of God. While personally believing and receiving cannot be done by an infant, we are told that a person, spouse or child, is sanctified by a believing spouse. 1Co 7:14 NKJV For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. This means they are set aside for God's use just as Hannah dedicated her son to God and later presented Samuel at the temple. Many churches dedicate children to God. This is what I consider infant baptism to be: dedicating a baby to God and promising to raise it in the faith. But I don't believe they are reborn till they personally repent and receive Christ, and understand that He is God the Son who was crucified for their sins, buried and rose again from the dead. An infant can't do that. But an infant can be sanctified to God and set apart from the world to God.

Those people who were infant baptized, they came into the world as the children from above, the children of Jesus Christ, They were born to Jesus Christ and will grow up learning about the one they belong to. They came into the world born from above because they were, (are), the seed of parents who are born from above. The need for them is to be informed that they are the children of Jesus Christ, and they have a place in Heaven in their name as long as they continue to believe in him. Does born from above, has the same meaning for you as the meaning of born again? Is it the same meaning? Can we use in the alternative either one of those two words, without altering the original message of Jesus, who was telling Nicodemus, that he is without a Heavenly Inheritance , unless he believes in him after he dies and raised from the dead. That is by believing in him after the Cross, he will have a Heavenly inheritance because he will be a heir of Heavens together with Jesus Christ, he will be considered as born from above.

Perhaps you can start another thread with this subject.

Infant baptism, in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. What does that suggest, does is it suggest that the parents, and or the preist, are having the faith of Jesus Christ, and they want their new born to grow in the same faith by making sure, that they undertake the responsibility to educate their child in the Christian faith as themselves according to the costoms of their culture. The same as to when Jesus was born and his parents perform (not the ritual of bastism to him, which was not part of their culture but), the ritual of sircumsition as an infant and dedicated him to the Lord. What do you think , about the children who were born in the Jewish faith; Were they born to the Lord? Were they the Lords from the moment they were born? This is for now till we have the answer to this question. Just to understand those who have the Christian faith but they are from a different culture. Hope that you don't feel that I am attacking you. God bless I do believe that they were the Lords from the very first moment of their birth. The same thing, that the children who are babtize in the Christian faith, they belong to the Lord Jesus Christ at the very first moment of their birth, and before the ritual of baptism and or without it.

Many people have been told by their church that they were born again at their infant baptisms, that they confess Christ at their confirmation, and each Sunday they confess their sins and ask forgiveness, so repentance and belief in Christ is supposed to be present since they are built into the rituals. Unfortunately, the reality of the work of the Holy Spirit is not always present. To some people it is just something that makes them feel good but they don't understand the meaning. At least that in itself is some evidence of the Holy Spirit drawing them. Yet for others the reality is there. God has His remnant who have not bowed their knees to Baal, so to speak. I recall that the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch. It was a term meant to sneer at them and means "little Christs". And that is exactly what we should be, however imperfect we are. We should be allowing Christ to live in us. So "born again Christian" may not be a phrase we find containing all three words in Scripture, but it is definitely an apt phrase and is totally Scriptural. I prefer "sealed by the Holy Spirit" "or "Spirit of adoption" because fewer people are familiar with those phrases.

This event took place before the Cross. Jesus is telling something to Nicodemus, which Nicodemus can not understand, something new that was coming, which can not be found in the Jewish Law, suggested maybe but not clearly define. If it was Nicodemus will know it, because he was a scholar of the Jewish history and the Law. Jesus told him that not only you, but the whole nation has a consept of the Kingtom of God, which it will never happen, that the coming kingdom of God will be reveal to the born from above people . At that point Jesus did not define the eligibility of the born from above people, but he did point to the Cross, when he told him " unless the Son of Man is lifted up,,,,,those things won't happen. In essense Jesus was telling Nicodemus that the Kingdom of God belong to the born from above people, and only those will be able to see it, Nicodemus understood that Jesus was telling him that the Jews as they are , (including himself), they are not part of the coming Kingdom of God, and he also understood about the children from above, and he knew that the Jews are not children from above, and they do not have a Heavenly Inheritance, they were never promise a heavenly inheritance. Jesus went on to tell him the children from above are the children born from the Spirit of God, and have nothing to do with the Law of Moses and being from the seed of Abraham. To Nicodemous Jesus said "you must be born from the Spirit of God. Then your eys will be open and see the Kingdom of God. This was said after the Cross. Peter explain to believers that they are born from the Spiritual seed of Jesus Christ, (the word of God), who was raised from the dead and lives forever, who is in the Heavens and will never die again, that we will be with him forever. Peter was telling that they are born from above.

I have not read the thread, I was taken by the opening posters statement, "Too often I come across the term " Born Again Christian " . The term will not be found in the Bible . I found three Scriptures where the word "Born Again" is mentioned. Twice by Jesus and once by Peter. John 3:3, Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again,1 he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:7, Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 1 Peter 1:23,Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Lol I'm showing evidence all over how science validates creationism, yet you argue against me. I dispute evolution, yet you argue against me. Not only that , your use of large colored caps shows that you are actually shouting at me (in forum speak). Can you somehow try and see some kind consensus somewhere. We are after all on the same side, both against evolution, both for the bible. I don't see the need to shout.

I believe my view is the more literal of the two views. The view that earth was created AFTER the spirit of God was upon the waters of this watery earth makes no sense. How can the earth be created after the earth already existed?? My view is a very literal acceptance of the words of Genesis. The word "earth" that was created on day 3 refers to the landmass, not the planet. The Hebrew word means primarily "land" not planet earth. 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. The earth existed before creation week. That is the prima facie reading of text. One can't cherry pick, one has to take the words of the bible seriously.The earth existed before light showed on the surface. The earth existed for an unknown period because evening and mornings were created after the existence of the earth. ps there are other planets

And THEN, back to the same Nonsensical Buffoonery again. I don't chase Fallacies, perhaps try this tactic with 'pre-schoolers'. When you're ready to SUPPORT your claims "Coherently", you let us know. mmm K? regards

Really?? Hmm... (Genesis 1:16-19) "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. {17} And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, {18} And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. {19} And the evening and the morning were the fourth day." We must be reading 'different' Bibles. I'm a "YEC" and I've always maintained that God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning. So I suppose you're just Making Stuff up then, eh? How is this a Misunderstanding?? Do you understand the Concept of SUPPORTING your claims?? 1. How is this Biblically Untrue?? 2. Scientifically Nonsensical?? Really, How so...? Go through each Step of The Scientific Method and show us...? You do realize that "LIGHT" can come from different sources. There's "LIGHT" without the sun or moon, here... (Revelation 21:23) "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof." Does this still comport to elementary physics and common sense or is your appeal below Nonsensical ?? Are you saying that Jesus Christ (The CREATOR, the Lamb) is unable to BE the Light and CONTROL the Light ?? It's neither. Ok, Please post the Syllogism for Nebuchadnezzar's dream...? I agree, but what's your specific "True Science" in Scripture...? regards

You've avoided the question. Tell me what verses 16 and 17 mean? I'm not concerned with whether Lucifer messed the Earth up or not. The greater and lesser lights were created on the 4th day. Stop changing the subject.

What happens to unbaptized Christians? They go through life understanding that they are disobedient Christians!

Blessings AE Good Topic,,,,,something a bit different,AHHHHH! Praise Jesus! To tell you the Truth,"What HAVEN"T I heard that drifts from the Gospel"(outlined in the Book of Romans) ,,,,,I think I've hear everything from the sublime to the ridiculous!!!! Haven't we all? Honestly,I don't give it much thought,Holy Spirit speaks to different folks in different ways and I do my best to stay out of HIS Way when preaching the Gospel,He Brings to my remembrance what I should say,when I should say it & to whom but the Word of God must be Written ion your heat in order that He can REveal to you what Words to use,,,,,,,I read many versions,mostly KJV & NKJV .....the Word is branded on my heart,it Fills my spirit,the very core of my being With love-in CHrist,Kwik

The version Paul preace in Philipie and the girl with the divination spirit heard and believed, and gave the testimony that it was truth, and I don't think she was the only one, a lot more must have believe not only that time , but for the days to come.

1 Cor 15:1-11 15 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all, as it were to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. NASB

By the way, a God shaped vacuum and a wonderful plan are excellent ways to initiate conversations with people. They just need to include the rest of the Good News--Christ was born among men as God in human flesh, He lived a perfect life, He died unjustly in our place for our sins, and He will come again to judge. We must turn away from sinful lifestyles and attitudes, and ask Him to conform us to be like Him by coming to live in us.

The gospels that I have found to be most troubling are those who leave out repentance from sin. People have been convicted by the Holy Spirit and are then asking, "I prayed the little prayer, now what do I do with my sins?" They need to ask God to forgive them and cleanse them from all unrighteousness, and while it is good to thank Jesus for dying for them so they can be forgiven, they still need that confession. I find children being told to ask Jesus to come into their hearts, and they are baptized, but then they think they are saved. I had a Sundayschool class of 6th grade baptized girls who still claimed they had NEVER done anything wrong. So I asked them about lying, stealing and honoring their parents, and everyone became very quiet. Salvation is for those whom the Holy Spirit is already drawing and convicting. Jesus came for those who need a doctor, not for those who are well. All we really need to do is read the 10 commandments to our society which no longer knows right from wrong. We don't need to scream at them spitefully condemning them. The Holy Spirit doesn't need our help to convict. People need to know that God loves them and that Christ died for the imperfect, the lawbreakers and evil people. But the unrepentant do need to be told that hell awaits them if they don't choose Christ.

The King James Version.

Very true. The true Gospel has been under attack for some time. But Paul summed it up in many Scriptures. One of the best summations of the Gospel of God is found in Titus 3:4-7: 4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

I share the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the only truth.

I ask the same question. You disregard Jesus and His call. Luke cannot offer you salvation.

1) Why such statements have not been made by the chosen apostles? What did Paul train Corinthians when he was there for nearly one and a half years. Did he not even the explain the significance of the communion? What was he observing during his stay there for such a long duration? Why writing from another place on some strange observation, like, speaking in unknown tongue? So Paul was giving instructions on matters unrelated spiritual aspects? If they had been that important Jesus certainly would have spoken on that. 2) So you deny what has been recorded by Peter? 2 Peter 3 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 3) Peter never said that Paul's is scripture. That is your interpretation-logic.