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I saw this elsewhere and it rings true....very true

For whatever it is worth, in the faith once delivered to the saints, in the early days this was the belief of Christians: “We, who used to kill one another, do not make war on our enemies. We refuse to tell lies or deceive our inquisitors; we prefer to die acknowledging Christ.” - Justin Martyr “Christians have changed their swords and their lances into instruments of peace, and they know not now how to fight.” - Irenaeus “Under no circumstances should a true Christian draw the sword.” - Tertullian “Christians, instead of arming themselves with swords, extend their hands in prayer.” - Athanasius

What does falling mean for the believer, bro? It means to fall into sin. That verse is talking about a righteous man falling into sin.

This is my post on another thread on the same topic. This is the experience I was referring to. People have different experiences with God. My Mom for example in one church service when we lived in Alaska during the altar call went to pray. The Holy Spirit fell on her very hard and she began to speak in tongues. ( not all that uncommon for her back then ). She didn't understand anything she said. Over a short period of time, everyone else stopped praying and all you could hear was my mom. It didn't sound like what she said made any sense. Many would say it sounded like jibberish. After a little bit, she got done praying, got up from the Altar and went back to her seat. No interpretation was given. Then after the service was completely over as she was leaving she was approached by a family. The oldest member of the family, an elderly woman, began speaking to my mom but not in English. My mom tried to explain she couldn't understand anything this woman was saying. Then one of the other people begun to explain to my mom what happened. The elderly Woman only spoke the Eskimo language native to her people. When the Spirit of God come upon my mom she had begun to speak about Jesus Christ and all the wonderful things about him in this Eskimo language. This woman thought my mom must speak the language. After a minute everything was explained to the woman, whom just wanted to be in the house of God. The only church for her to come to was ours, as she was far from home visiting family. This story is 100% true. We never know what someone else might have experienced with God. To my mom, it was just praying in tongues as she had done countless times before. To this other woman, it was a touch from God. We just don't know, which is why I try to advise to be cautious with this subject. Just because it may sound like jibberish to some, doesn't mean it is. I apologize to you if I upset you with my response. God bless

Pelagianism contradicts Psalm 51:5. All humans die as a result of sin Ezekiel 18:20. The Bible tells us the opposite of pelagianism Romans 3:10-18;Romans 5:12. Pelagianism is not biblical and should be rejected.

Hermeneutics - Principles of Interpreting God`s word. I thought it a good idea to present what I was taught regarding interpreting God`s word - Hermeneutics. These are the foundational principles specifically affecting predictive prophecy. Of course these are other principles and you may like to add to these. EXPLICIT PRINCIPLE By which any statement is to be taken at its literal meaning, unless otherwise clearly indicated. God says what He means, and means what He says. The message of the Bible was inspirationally revealed in a clear and unmistakable manner, to be understood by ordinary people. Similarly then with the principle of interpreting it. All historical portions are taken quite literally. The doctrinal, the moral and the spiritual content are so interpreted. Manifestly, then, by every logical and spiritual norm prophetical scriptures must be construed by the same pattern, applying common sense literal principles. Figures of speech are employed on occasions to illustrate and amplify spiritual truths, however these are always readily recognized as such. ETHNIC PRINCIPLE By which the Word of God is rightly divided in relation to the three classes which it treats - `The Jew, the Gentile and the Church of God.` (1 Cor. 10: 32) Governing law - To whom does the prophecy concern, and to whom said.

Wayne, if I have made incorrect assumptions, then I apologize. You said; "Other faiths might have a different type of love not of the lord". I agree with you, as that was my point also. But is a person walking in love, helping others, giving of their time and money, even dying for a friend, is that the final test of proof of belief in Jesus Christ for their savior? Or is the visible lifestyle of good works an effort to gain that approval of what they were taught to believe is necessary to insure their salvation? Not for me to judge. But if my spirit quickens me to a genuine concern when I'm listening to their beliefs, then I will share my testimony,and my reasons for leaving the RCC. You said; " No greater love then a man lay his life down for his friends". A scripture verse I would hope to honor. But if I would believe I might be willing to give my life for a friend, could I not be willing to expose myself to humiliation to simply share the gospel with a stranger? Would that be considered walking in Godly love? And exposing the false teachings of their church? Do you consider that walking in love. Or should I live and let die? When I was a catholic adult, a total stranger, a baptist pastor, shared with me the gospel of Jesus our Christ. I will be eternally thankful for his conviction to tell me the TRUTH! The saddest statistic of our day is that 95 percent of all church members have never led anyone to Christ. Dr D James Kennedy 1930-2007

With all due respect, it's not about being correct or incorrect but seeking God's truth. There has always been both in the old testament and the new testament divine utterance when God's Holy Spirit come upon someone. Even with temples made with the hands of men, there was an overflow or outward manifestation when his Holy Spirit filled it. I've seen and heard tongues used in the biblical manner described in Acts to glorify God and tell others about Jesus Christ. I've seen it. So it's simple. Either I'm a lair or it is for today.

In a poker game, its 'ante up' not 'anti up'. Ante is a prefix meaning 'before'. Anti means 'against'.

When Christ saw sin in the synagogues, in the HOUSE of GOD. WHAT was his approach. was it coffee and donuts and lets reason this out. OR was it whips and smashing tables. I think the Church needs to STUDY JESUS again, and flee this dung pile seeker friendly which did not save the gays IT caused the churches to embrace it. HOW did paul view sin in the church. IF I COME AGAIN I WILL NOT SPARE HOW DID JAMES........... YOU ADULTERERS and ADULTERESSES. The sinners who by grace were being drawn to HIM, he had much compassion on, and showed them mercy and TOLD them GO AND SIN NO MORE. but the ones who were outright against HIM. well lets examine this. The lawyers said , but LORD by you saying this you are reproaching us as well. Did he say , well here is some coffee, um try harder NO he said WOE UNTO YOU too. DID CHRIST try and offer donuts and coffee to the ones stuck in religion and doctrines of men. Well lets see. The desicples said LORD did you not KNOWthat this saying offended them. DID JESUS say , oh man I was not approaching in love , here go offer coffee and donuts , say I am sorry. NO. HE said LET THEM BE. EVERY PLANT which my FATHER has not planted shall be rootedup. DID JESUS say.............HEY if one believes another way is possible just go with them anyway do good works for world peace and big a big all inclusive family. NO. HE said and if they hear you not , SHAKE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET> And man the aposltes sure must have kwown and loved him they kept his sayings. I Seen in a few places where it says they SHOOKE the dust off their feet . What did John say.................if one comes brining a contrary gospel or etc..........DO NOT EVEN BID THEM GOD SPEED. For he who does so is partaker of his evil deeds. I DID NOT SEE all inclusive seeker friendly in none of them. WHAT I saw was they knew the dire need of the world to hear the gospel and would not sell out one ounce of it. They walked in the TRUE LOVE OF CHRIST that desires none to damned and would not consent with nor agree with false doctrines any doctrine which compromised ANY of JESUS sayings. So sad most no longer even know what they have lost, worse that they are still lost. that is scary for them.

Two things. John said HE who loves not RIGHTEOUSNESS nor his brother does not know God. and AS JESUS said love ye one another as I, AS HE , AS I have loved you. Seems like the love of JESUS came with lots of warnings too specially this one.........beware for many will come IN MY NAME and deceive many. the false version of love is the one budda, muslims, lukewarm all inclusive christains as well as the non religious are under its false love spell. Very deceptive place to be. very. VERY. OUR LOVE is way different that this love which is of the world. OUR LOVE WOULD CORRECT WARN REBUKE and EVEN SEPERATE company from those who are under a spell and wont repent.

People said he couldn't win the primaries, he did. They said he couldn't win the general, he did. No he could do it-even find the money for it. I have no doubt that he could find a way to fund it and ramrod it through congress. The question is not ability, the question is whether he will or not.

If 'hatred' was your motivation for speaking against the LGBTQ anything, then you were indeed wrong and it is good that the Holy Spirit convicted you of that. But please do not fall into the trap that the world has set by labeling saying anything counter to the homosexual agenda as 'hate.' We are on the verge - in this country - of following Canada's lead in calling many passages of Scripture hate speech. We are in Orwellian territory, indeed. Sin is sin - that is true. God hates it all, and our only hope is in Christ. But that said, I am not aware of any of the other categories of sins whose victims march in parades and demand special rights. Gossipers rights? Gluttons' parades? Adulterers' marches? Blessings, -Ed

I can see how one could view it that way based on the wording arraignment of the text. But since it is the Lamb who is opening the seals to begin with, I have come to hold that they would only happen by His doing so and therefore He is the source behind these. More of an action than just an enlightening of events happening. Indeed, we should be able to share our differing views on these things without condemnation of each other. I am not so sure that one can associate Judge and Wrath interchangeably, even in the context you mention. One is a determination and one is an action. Given that the entire period is designed to drive Israel to the wall and recognize their Messiah (Hosea 5:15 - 6:1 and Matthew 23:39) and to persuade the rest of the peoples of the earth to turn to the One True God, I see even the events of the seals as being associated with punishment for unbelief. Kind of a "you want to go your own way, then fine, I will allow it and you can deal with the consequences". They just intensify more and more in severity as the period progresses. To the point where God is becoming so disgusted with these people that events are intensified. Those that take the mark later, become finally judged in doing so. They cannot be redeemed because they took the mark, so are destined for destruction. It is a bad time, no matter how one views it. And the complexity makes it so that all of us probably have certain aspects to it wrong. We each see these events in limitation of our human frailty and the amount of clarification we are given. No matter how this plays out, I must keep my trust in the one true God that He is faithful and remembers His promises to those He loves. I will be disappointed if a removal does not occur before these events, but that will only mean I had certain aspects wrong, not that God is unfaithful. I still keep hope that there is a removal before these events, not for my sake alone, but for all the brothers and sisters.

Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. I am an older man and I can tell you that if any male is asking you sexual question, you can be assured that this is what is in his heart and will only lead to un-Christlike thoughts and activities. Stay away.

Oh well what a relief! I thought you were gonna tell me Christ's two brides are Laverne and Shirley! Actually no! There's a difference. I've disagreed with everything you've been promoting so far because it's not in scripture. While you're at it, why don't you post some scriptures showing Judah and Ephraim being Christ's bride. And where's the church in all this? Did you throw the church out the window because the body of Christ doesn't fit into your teachings?

The Bible quite clearly presents an obvious and unmistakable sequence which unfolds naturally and logically as an out working of the divine purpose for the above mentioned three classes of people recognized by God: - (1) There is a time-slot for events that relate to the Church culminating in the glorious appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ. An event which the Bible refers to as the `Day of Christ.` (2) There is a time for world events, affecting the nations, leading up to the supreme dictator who will gather all people to the great battle Armageddon. There is a time for tribulation and judgment, upon the whole unbelieving world: but primarily upon Israel, to prepare them for the promised period of blessing and prosperity during the millennial reign of Christ. Scripture refers to this time period as the `Day of the Lord.` (3) Finally, with the ultimate restitution of all things, time will become absorbed into the Eternal purpose in the `Day of God.` Marilyn.

Ty, I will have a look at these videos. I'm very interested in Bible archeology. I thought there were some doubts with some of Ron Wyatts claims or methods, but I'll check these out.

Just as Cain vainly tried to impress God with the works of his hands, so do Catholics try to impress God with their good works and ceremonialism. Catholicism is a damnable lie that has been in the world since Cain. God will smash the Catholic Whore with His judgments. Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9) There are so many verses in scripture that contradict RCC theology Rom 4:5 utterly condemns the System of salvation by masses penance priests etc, bible teaches that salvation is gift of God not of works & this gift is freely given by God to those who trust in the merits of Christ's finished work on Calvary, the RCC SYSTEM is a demonic counterfeit to keep the lost RCs on the broad road to hell

The sooner we confess that we can't love the unlovable and forgive the unforgivable, the sooner we cast ourselves at God's feet and ask for His help. When we come to realize that we can't, but Christ whose Spirit has come to dwell in us can do it, the more we come to rely on the power that God gives Christians to do His will. The same Jesus who cried "Father forgive them, they know not what they do", while hanging on a cross, lives in all born again Christians! He in us can do what we cannot do. When we are rid of our self righteousness knowing that we are no better than the worst sinners and cannot throw stones, it is much easier to forgive. We all stand before God asking Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Yes, God knows who are born again. And God knows at one time there were only born again Christians and the lost. And no Roman Catholics. That evolved later, but then you know that, right? If you know the Lord as you say you do, do you tell your catholic friends the gospel of Christ? If you don't, why not. If you do, how come? You say "He who walks in love knows God.The Apostle John said. That is the test" Which love, which God. Which bible? What about other religions, they also have love, don't they? Buddhism Just as blood nourishes the heart which keeps it flowing, so love nourishes spiritual freedom and is, in turn, kept flowing by it. The connection is so strong that Buddhism, often known as a Path of Freedom, could equally be called a religion of love. Perhaps this is what he had in mind when the Dalai Lama said his religion is kindness. For the Buddha, love is one of the paths to full spiritual liberation. Muslim. The love of a believer who knows Allah, who witnesses His might and greatness at every moment and who feels His love, affection and mercy throughout his life, is incomparable stronger than any other love. His love for other believers will similarly be powerful and profound since it is based on love of Allah. Latter-day Saints Moroni, the last prophet of the book, wrote about love:[5]But charity is the pure love of Christ, and it endureth forever; and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it shall be well with him.— Moroni 7:47 (Mormon) It's not difficult to study other religions, Wayne, so why not study the beliefs of RCC? Then you might decide to talk to them about their relationship to the Lord, or if they don't know, show your Christian love by explaining the gospel to them. That would be cool......

Hi Spider-Man. You said; I'm not Catholic but like to pray in Catholic Churches and sometimes attend Mass. ******************************************************************* Check this out Spider-Man and maybe you might think again about attending a Catholic Mass. I know all about the Catholic mass now as an adult. As an alter boy I once asked the priest what we were saying during mass, which was said in Latin in my day as an alter boy. We as young boys just parroted off what we learnt by repetition, as taught by the sisters. He told me not to worry about what's being said and what the meaning of it all was, just come in where your supposed to respond. I have since learnt that the Catholic mass is proved invalid by the scriptures. The invalidity of the Mass is proved by its being continued. If any Mass could validly apply the infinite merits of Christ's sacrifice for men, Then one Mass would suffice for eternity, since His work is infinite. The fact that a priest offers Mass for the same people every day, including every Sunday proves that yesterdays and last Sunday's Mass were useless and invalid, for they accomplished no eternal Divine work. Note especially Hebrews 10:12. "ONE sacrifice; 10:14, by ONE offering; 10:18, NO more offering for sin. Leviticus 6:30. "AND NO SIN OFFERING, whereof any of the blood is brought into the tabernacle of the congregation withal in the holy place, shall be eaten: IT SHALL BE BURNT IN THE FIRE." If the Mass is an offering for sin, and according to THE CATHOLIC CATECHISM, Jesus offers Himself daily as a sin offering same as He did on the Cross, If this is the case, the sacrifice CANNOT BE EATEN. It can, as Jesus instructed us, be symbolically remembered, His flesh and blood cannot, according to the above Scriptures, be literally eaten. Jesus Christ in His flesh and blood body now sits at His Fathers right hand and is not being eaten. The life of all flesh is the blood just as Jesus is the life of all human beings who accept Him. When He says you must eat my flesh and drink my blood, and in doing so symbolically in remembrance of Him we accept eternal life. Jesus called Himself the bread of God! "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world" (John 6:33). "Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst." (John6:33-35). Many of Jesus's disciples knowing God's aversion to drinking blood alone were perplexed by Jesus saying believers must drink His blood. They thought He meant they were to literally drink His blood, but this was not so and He explained this in John 6:63. "Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:60-63). Many followers mumbled asking how one can literally eat Jesus's flesh and drink His blood. Jesus explained it clearly, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63). Literal flesh profiteth nothing the words Jesus spoke were are spirit and THEY are life. We are to physically remember Him through eating literal bread and drinking literal wine and in doing so we are spiritually eating His Words and spiritually becoming one with Him. Scripture proves the Lords supper is the outward rite in which believers eat broken bread, not flesh, and drink the fruit of the vine, not blood. to COMMEMORATE the broken body and the shed blood of Jesus Christ until He comes again (READ, Matt. 26:26-30; Mark 14:17-25; Luke 22:14-20; 1 Cor. 11:20-30), there is not excuse for believing otherwise. The "symbols," the "bread" and the "wine," will always remain just that, "literal bread and wine" regardless of who or what prayer is said over them. No man can change these elements into Jesus Christs real flesh and blood in any sense. WHY, HOW CAN CATHOLICS, POPES, BISHOPS, CARDINALS, PRIESTS, IGNORE THIS STATEMENT BY JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF? IT'S SO THEY CAN AND DO HOLD THE PEOPLE, THEIR FOLLOWERS IN BONDAGE AND FEAR TO THEMSELVES! In Matthew 26 verse 29, Jesus Himself calls the cup of wine, "this fruit of the vine," and not His Blood! Matt. 26:27, And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; V 28, For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. V 29, But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. Here Christ Himself calls it; FRUIT OF THE VINE.” TRANSUBSTANCIATION AND ADORATION OF THE WAFER WAS DECLARED AND DECREED BY THE POPES. Transubstanciation was declared and decreed by Pope Innocent 111 in the year 1215 A.D. By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the presence of the people during Mass. The Gospel condems such absurdities. Holy Communion is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ (Luke 22:19,, 20; John 6:35; 1 Cor:26). The adoration of the wafer (HOST) was invented by Pope Honorius in 1220 A.D. The Catholic Church also made it obligatory to have communion at least once per week, and even every day if possible. If you read the Scriptures quoted you will clearly see nothing has been added. Ignatius' letter to the Smyrneans 105 a.d.- He mentions the eucharist in his letter. The word eucharist is not one time mentioned in the entire Bible? Also there is no letter to the Smyrneans in the Bible either that I can find? Many people of many religious persuasions wrote many letters over the years but unless they are in the Bible they are of no substance as far as supporting doctrin goes.

Glad to meet someone who is willing to discuss these views without taking things personally. To me, Seal 5 indicates that the seals are not God's judgments. Those who are slain asks God, "How long until you judge the inhabitants of the earth?" If the seals were God's judgments, wouldn't he reply something like, "What do you think is happening now? I am judging the earth." Instead, God tells them to wait a little longer. It implies that his judgments will follow, likely in the form of the trumpet plagues. The church will be removed before the latter. PS. Can't find Mark 21:36 in my bible.

- No,...... the way you are explaining it tries to promote the false idea that some are saved and some are lost, and there is no choice or free will involved. And thats not true and its not possible. See, here is the issue with predestination theology as you are trying to present it. You have not realized 2 things.....One...is that because God knows something will happen, does not mean He caused it to happen., as the foreknowledge of God allows Him to be able to know without having to be the cause. Second.....If predestination were true, then God would be unfair, cold hearted, and wrong.... and the reason is.......If, the way you unfortunately present the gospel were true (and its not).....that "some are born to heaven and some are born to hell", then this means that God is causing people to burn, and not giving some of them a choice to be saved.....And that means God is removing free will.........So, all of that does not happen, will not happen, and has never happened. Instead......God offers heaven and eternal life to every living human being who was or will be born.......Jesus died for the "sin of the world" and not just for the "chosen elect"....... Just remember that even tho God, in His foreknowledge KNOWS everything....this DOES NOT MEAN that He causes everything.....It only means that because God is God, He knows everything. Knowing is not causing.........Knowing is Knowing. = Foreknowledge. If you are saved, then He knew you would be, but He didnt choose your free will for you, ............But He did know you would choose Christ and become born again, long before you were found wearing your earth suit.

Amen.

Yes. "Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death." - James 1:13-15

Hi Shiloh, Now I do recognise the gifting of God upon your life, however those emotive phrases you are using to `put me down` are not how we should discus God`s word, bro. How would you like it if I said those phrases to you? Remember you are not the judge of this forum. Our responsibility is - `in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth...` (2 Tim. 2: 25) Your `attacking` approach actually does you more harm, as it shows that you have a weak theory because you have to put down another who disagrees. It is the word we are discussing, with reverence and humility towards one another. Let us focus on the word and not writing rude comments about another. (which I might add is not permissible on this forum). So I am pointing this out to you before any other steps that could be taken. Marilyn.

Yes, I have. Many who profess to be a Christian are not a born again Christian so this is not surprising. People are living their lives under their own rules.

Yes. When I sin, that's me unfotunately. When I am disobedient to God, I am following my own logic and stubbornness.

When the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society tells you it is the interpreter of God's word, it's no more evil than the Mormons saying God's word has to be interpreted through their writings (Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price etc.), or the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church, or the traditions and platforms of the Protestant denominations et al. God the Holy Spirit is the only interpreter of the Word of God. We test to assure it's him (1 John 4:1) by the scriptures (Acts 17:11).

2 Peter 1:20–21 (AV) 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. All scripture was brought into existence in this way. All scripture is subject to the interpretation of the Author the Holy Spirit. Any other interpretation is in error.

Mark 7:7–13 (AV) 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Matthew 16:13–23 (AV) 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. ←←←

I will check this out - ty.

This is absolutely true and correct. I've told people this before. Not who the two witnesses are but many will come to God and accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. The greatest revival ever in the history of mankind over a 42 month period will occur during the time when the two witnesses proclaim the gospel. Just as Christ did with Israel, so will the two witnesses do to the world.

Amen! Worthy is the Lamb!

An ancient story in Church history tells of the apostle John. He would constantly repeat the words, "Little children, love one another." And his disciples became weary of the phrase. Finally, in his old age, as John was being carried to their assembly, the disciples asked him, "Why do you always repeat these same words?" "Because friends," John replied, "it is the Lord's commandment -- and if only this one were fulfilled, it would be enough." The post Do ya love me?! appeared first on Worthy Christian Devotional - Daily Devotions. Read the entire devotional.

Evolution is mans religion . talk about a state forced religion. I mean its a set of beliefs of HOW it all began. YET most who love it and hate true relgioin in Christ , attack us and say quit with your religion. I say Cease that wisdom of man religoin and FIND the only TRUE RELIGION which is found ONLY IN CHRIST. amen.

Matt, we are told that we are to die once, then we will face judgement (Hebrews 9:23-28). There is nothing in these word to indicate a second chance after death. I believe you are looking for what you would like to see and this is blinding you to the real truth. There is no purgatory where we suffer for a time and then cleansed. There is no place where we sit and be taught. Once we leave this life, the next thing we will know is standing before God. If there was a "second chance", then Jesus died for nothing, as others have pointed to.

for not only is it given us to believe on him, but also to suffer for his name sake. Many are called but few chosen. Most desire a different JESUS the god of riches and mammon and the cares and pleaures in life one. JESUS is the ONLY TRUE PROSPERITY . man prosperity gospel is false. You be blessed and praise the Lord.

I will honor no abomination . Let the whole world come against me, but GOD alone will be honored. This is a sick perversion. that is all it is. and I will never see it any other way. Sure I am kind to all. But I will honor no abominational marriage . I don't care if I go to jail. amen.

Really? I think they had their whole life to accept and respond to what little they could know about God, and they rejected Him. Seems to me more likely, that any "sermon" they heard might have been along the lines of 'Some responded, some did not, that ship has sailed. It all came true, just as the prophets said, and now there awaits a resurrection, for those who received the light, and torment, for those who chose darkness'. C.S. Lewis said something the the effect, that there are two kinds of people in the judgement to come: Those who said to God: "Thy will be done" and those to whom God will say: "Thy will be done"

The "L" (Limited Atonement) is much more complicated and where many Christians have a problem with Reformed Theology. It has everything to do with a lack of understanding of the nature (for lack of a better term) of YHWH, God. God doesn't experience time the way we do. God is, and can move in and out of space/time because He is not bound by His own creation. Jesus' sacrifice was enough to save everyone by His grace and mercy, but He doesn't force His grace upon us. He gave us the same free will that He gave Adam, and like Adam, we failed. His death and resurrection was enough to save everyone. So it is not limited by God. It seems limited by us because not everyone accepts the free gift of eternity with God. We blame God when someone rejects Him, but it is their choice. God knows who will accept His free gift of salvation before we even existed. But it is still offered. Consider Job. Job was blessed by God. God bragged to Lucifer about His servant Job, and Lucifer started a series of tests for Job as God allowed. And each test, Job passed and did not curse God. In all these things Job did not sin. Lucifer would not have requested these tests unless Lucifer knew Job had free will. God knew Job had free will but God also knew the end of the tests before the beginning. Lucifer is bound in space/time but God is not. I hope this makes some sense to you. The Holy Spirit gave me this and turned me from a Calvinist to a non-Denominational Christian and believer in free will.

God requires a relationship, not a "religion". I will let God decide and leave it at that.

I don't need to read someone's book to understand what is plain in scripture. The scripture states clearly that we, our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Jesus, in telling us to love God. ( The Greatest Commandment) to love God with all you heart, mind and soul, and all your strength. But he never tells us once to love God with our bodies. You see, we can't love God with what we don't own. We can respect God with our bodies, by not destroying the temple of the Holy Spirit. But we love God with what is ours to give. Mind heart, soul, strength.

Blessings I do like what I hear from Emanual I just don't want anyone to think that if they are reading a NKJV or an NIV etc,,,that God will not Reveal His Timeless Truth in other than the KJV & I see this continually,it is not so......my personal preference is the KJV but lets not turn this Thread into a Bible version THread,read what you prefer & seek God in it,let Holy Spirit direct you,guide you & point the WAY With love-in Christ,Kwik

Why do you say you are not a "Christian",,,,y ou sound like a Christian to me? With love-in Christ,Kwik

Blessings Matrix,,,,, AWAB is not a "Sister",,,,he has not been back since April 30th,,,,,,,,,,of course he may,let us keep him in our prayers for sure!!!!! Praise Jesus! With love-in Christ,Kwik

How could you prove that the 144,000 are NOT a part of the remnant of Israel? That would certainly turn Scripture on its head. They are clearly identified by the tribes of Israel, and are distinct from the Gentiles as well as other segments of believing Israel. As to the "red horse" representing warfare and bloodshed, it was released almost immediately after the Revelation was written. Millions have died and shed their blood in hundreds (perhaps thousands) of wars.

The horses of the Apocalyse were released shortly after John wrote Revelation, if not already while he was writing.