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The Scriptures are crystal clear where Jesus will meet His Church, in 1 Thess.4:17: "After that, we who are still alive and are left, WILL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER with them in the clouds TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. And so we will be with the Lord forever." In the FIRST of His TWO comings, recorded in 1 Thess.4:16, yet to take place, confirming Jn.14:2-3, 28! From where the Church is seen in heaven BEFORE the tribulation begins, in Rev.4:1-2. Where Jesus used John to symbolically represent the Church. Confirming 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8! Where the Church is seen in heaven later, at the marriage of the Bride/Church to the Lamb/Jesus. While the tribulation is taking place on earth, recorded in Rev.19:7-8. From where Jesus will return to the earth in the SECOND, of His TWO comings, yet to take place, WITH HIS CHURCH, riding white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, in His armies from heaven, recorded in 19:14, confirming Zech.14:4-5 and Acts 1:6; 1:11; 2:29-30 and 15:16! From which the above Scriptures leave no other options! The difference between the pre-trib rapture of the Church, as delineated above, and the SECOND coming of Jesus are the following facts: 1. Jesus returns to the earth in His second coming, recorded in Zech.14:4-5 and in Acts 1:11. 2. No one meets Jesus in the sky when He returns in His second coming, recorded in Rev.19:14, as they will when He returns for the first time, recorded in 1 Thess.4:16!. 3. Jesus will return from the marriage of the Bride/Church to the Lamb/Jesus, in heaven, in His second coming, to the earth, with His Church, recorded in Rev.19:14, He came for in His first coming, in the clouds of the sky, seven years before, recorded in Jn.14:2-3, 28, 1 Thess.4:16-17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. 4. No one returns to the present heaven at Jesus second coming to the earth, because He has come to establish His 1,000 year reign on the throne of David, in the restored kingdom of Israel, as recorded in Acts 1:6; 2:29-30; 15:16; Zech.6:12-13 described in Ez.40-47 and Rev.20:6. In addition to the present heaven and earth being destroyed and will pass away, as recorded in 2 Pet.3:7 and in Rev.21:1. Quasar93

Problem is when folks say they want to keep the Law........it depends on how they mean it......what spirit they are of. Whatsoever is not of FAITH..........is sin. There is coming a day when the true righteous will be persecuted in our lands and our persecutors will think they are doing God's will......so it no doubt will be on the basis of some of those kinds of scriptures. God's word sure does test hearts.

As you already know JESUS came to show us how to walk as we mere ones should. and a wonderful example of both how lovely and holy and pure the law is and how man is not to be the judge of it , but rather fulfill it BY living JESUS sayings. this example can be found where they brought a woman who had committed adultery . The law says she should be stoned , but what do you say, REMEMBER this they said to try and trick him too. Let us pay attention to something JESUS DID NOT SAY. HE NEVER < NEVER once said nor assumed the law was wrong in one tittle. HE did not say......HEY don't You stone that woman. NOPE . For the law had said TOO. WHAT he did say , showed WHO alone has that right . AND IT SURE AINT MAN for all have sinned, haven't they. not a one of us has the right to put to death another for any sin. GOD DOES and HE ALONE is the judge who will. IN the mean time , we simply correct by using the law on the disobedient . An example would be a woman is brought before the church as an adulterer , we rebuke , we correct , and till she repents their is no eating with or keeping company with. SEE the difference. Only in these days..............the wrong version of judgment is used. Don't you dare judge you haters , WHEN one does try and correct they are accused of JUDGING . THIS IS A LIE FROM SATAN and I repeat from satan. We are to be very grave , very serious when we see any brethren in any error. IN fact to not correct IS HATE. not love, HATE. The simple thing to remember is this, IF any brings any scripture from the old test and it CONTRADICTS the way JESUS taught , TIS A LIE from satan trying to get us to disobey the ONLY ONE who gives us eyes to see and ears to hear . an example is................when christains try and make void something JESUS said , like , an example WHEN they try and justify WAR. and they use old test examples. WRONG . JESUS even told the solider DO NO VIOLENCE against any man. We as chrisains cannot bear arms in no mans war . but many make this void. OR if one is wronged they think its okay to repay the one who did them wrong. by saying EYE For eye , tooth for tooth. BUT JESUS did not teach that . SO the question remains to all those who have made JESUS sayings void by hearing from satan who used old holy scrips to justify war, remarriage , taking one to court , swearing, etc. THE question is this .................if you think you can justify yourself and make VOID the sayings of the ONLY ONE who can JUSTIFY ..........you DOOMED and you don't know it. FOR WHO knows the law better the lying preachers who make void JESUS sayings, men or JESUS ALONE . exactly . LET THAT SINK IN REAL DEEP TODAY .

Reality will explain in a way that words just can't.

Really? That's rich coming from one who ignores context. What about this context? Galatians 3 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Whoa! Bet that slams into the wall of cognitive dissonance. You want there to be a difference between Jew and Gentile to protect your island. "And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed" What? I though the Jews were the seed of Abraham? Does this mean believers are the seed of Abraham? Oh no!

Incorrect. If you were to examine the wording of the entire passage of 2 Thess 2:1-7, and take a look at the original language, you would see the return of Jesus and the gathering of the elect, is being restrained by the revealing of the beast, or AC. Your citation of 2 Thess 2:3 says nothing about being taken out of the way. 2 Thess 2:3 talks about apostasy and the revealing of the beast. I think you meant 2 Thess 2:7. It's kinda foolish to equate the wife of Jesus in v 7 with the armies of Jesus in v 14. What you are saying is that Jesus got married and then led his wife into battle. That's a ridiculous notion. It's also illogical to assume only the elect are clothed in fine linen, clean and white. Angels are clothed this same way. Fine, clean, white linen is a symbol of purity and righteousness. The angels of the Lord are also pure and righteous. The distinction must be made on the basis of what the words say. In v 7 the fine linen, white and clean adorns the wife, not an army. In v 14 the fine linen, clean and white clothes the armies, not a wife. What? You suppose this is impossible? There must be a great army of angels in heaven already as Jesus said, Matthew 26:53, "Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?" So there is at least 12 legions, maybe 60,000 angels in heaven based on just this verse. However this is just a small contingent. Rev 5:11 says there are at least 10,000 times 10,000 angels. That's a hundred million. But this has to be added to, "and thousands of thousands". This means there is an innumerable host of angels already in heaven. Elisha saw a mountain full of chariots of fire. Joshua met with the captain of the host of the Lord. (Jesus) Proving there is a standing army in heaven commanded by the Lord, in place and long before the church age. It's this same army that will fight with Jesus after the Bride of Christ is rescued from the fires of persecution at the hands of the beast. Solid refutation of the pretrib lie.

well i disagree it is really hard to understand the bible reading it on your own, much less get an overview picture of what all God has to say on a particular topic as we have to balance out different passages from different part of scripture, not an easy if even possible to do it on your own so i think it is great you have Got Question org to get you started, especially anyone can post anything these days, it is really good to have one resource that you know is at least reputable, even if they may not be right 100 percent of the time. for me, in some ways, got a question serves the same purpose as sermons and classes in bible school but i do see what you mean, got a question should not be a replacement of reading scripture itself and others.

1 Cor 11 teaches that headcovering should be practiced when we pray or prophesy. 1 Peter 3:15 says, "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear." That verse speaks of prophesying - speaking Christ. It's something that women don't generally do in church, but the Bible says we are to be ready to do it anytime. Also, to pray without ceasing. It's for this reason that I believe in wearing a covering at all times. I'm always ready to pray or prophesy, and it's a constant reminder of who I belong to.

Got questions is just a study guide a long with God's word.Many do not like got questions because it does not align with their false doctrine. It is a reliable source. There are many that are not reliable.

yep, God is bigger than the schemes of man, and will use GQ for His glory! Amen!!

Quite right. You shouldn't argue any further, because your views contradict the teachings in the Bible, as documented in the following: he Biblical teaching of the pre-trib rapture of the Church: Mt.24:31: [/B] And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His ELECT from the four winds [Israel - on earth], from one end of the heavens to the other [The Church Jesus will rapture before the seven year tribulation begins]. How did those ELECT get into heaven? Read on to find out. Lk.21:36: "Watch ye, therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." Jn.14:2-4 and 28: "In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you [See Jn.20:17]. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going." [Jn.14:2-4]. "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." [Jn.14:28]. The Scriptures tell us where we all go, who belong to Christ, after the death of our bodies: "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." As recorded in 2 Cor.5:8, confirming Ecc.12:7. Which is, in and of itself, conclusive to the fact that Jesus is not going to let the rest of His Church remain on earth to go through the seven year tribulation, when He returns for those of us who are still alive, waiting for His appearing, in 1 Thes.4:17. Since He raises all those who have died, to be with Him, immediately after their physical death, for more than 2,000 years. 1 Thes.4:13-18: The Thessalonians were very concerned about those among them who had died, that they would not be gathered together with the rest of them when Jesus returned. Paul assures them in vs 13-14 that they will all be returning with Christ from heaven, where they have been since He raised them up to be with Him, the day they died physically, according to 2 Cor.5:6-8. "We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him [Died physically]. Vs 14. "According to the Lord's own word [Scriptural truth as to the fact that Jesus taught there was to be a pre-trib rapture of the Church, as recorded in Jn.14:2-4 and 28], we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left to the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep." Vs 15. An assurance by Paul to the Thessalonians that the dead in Christ had already been raised from the dead before, and were already with Christ when He returns for all those left on earth alive at His coming. Because they have already been raised, each in his/her own turn, according to 1 Cor.15:23. That is the very reason it is not documented as a resurrection in the Scriptures. "For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven [With all His saints [Church], according to vs 14], with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first" [Paul again assures them, as seen in verses 13-14, they were already previously raised once before, each in his/her own turn, as they died, for more than 2,000 years]. Vs 16. "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be CAUGHT UP [raptured] together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the sky. And so we will be with the Lord forever." Vs 17. Where we proceed with Jesus to our Father in heaven as He promised us in Jn.14:2-4 and 28. "Therefore encourage each other with these words." Vs 18. 2 Thess.2:1-8: The precise timing of the rapture of the Church: "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the Day of the Lord [The 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation of Dan.9:27] has already come." 2 Thes.2:1-2. Which is a direct reference to 1 Thes.4:17 and the theme of Paul's entire pre-trib rapture message in 2 Thes.2:1-8. When we will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. [Parenthetics mine]. The "Day of the Lord" Paul refers to in vs 2, alludes to Dan.9:27, when God will intervene into the affairs of man for the last time, culminating in the second coming of Jesus to the earth. In that passage of Scripture, the Day of the Lord is triggered by the "he" who "confirms a covenant [An agreement] for one Week" [The Day of the Lord/ 70th and final Week/seven year tribulation], who is the antichrist. The second, and same "he," who stops Israel from the offerings and sacrificing in the temple of God, and the third, and same "he," who breaks his covenant in the middle of the Week [After 3.5 of the 7 year total], and sets up the abomination of desolation Jesus referred to in Mt.24:15, in His Olivet Discourse, about the sign of His second coming, and of the end of the age. In verse 3: "Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that Day [The Day of the Lord, the 70th and final Week, the seven year tribulation] will not come, until the "apostasia" [Greek term in which the original translation was "to depart," or "departure," meaning, the rapture of the Church] occurs and the man of lawlessness [The antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27] is revealed [Who triggers the Day of the Lord/ the 70th and final Week/ the seven year tribulation], the man doomed to destruction." Which reveals the "apostasia" [Departure] will take place before the antichrist is revealed, who triggers the 70th Week/seven year tribulation. Confirmed in verses 7 and 8 below. Translation History of apostasia and discessio: By Thomas Ice, PhD. The first seven English translations of apostasia all rendered the noun as either " departure" or " departing." They are as follows: Wycliffe Bible (1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1535); Cranmer Bible (1539); Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608) . This supports the notion that the word truly means " departure." In fact, Jerome' s Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of 325 A.D. renders apostasia with the " word discessio, meaning ' departure.' Why was the King James Version the first to depart from the established translation of "departure" in 1611 A.D.? [It is more than likely due to overzealous RCC scribes who altered the original wording of vs 3. to accommodate their teachings of Amillenialism, which rejects both the pre-trib rapture of the Church as well as Jesus Millennial reign her on earth]. Theodore Beza, the Swiss reformer was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word, rather than translate it as others had done. The translators of the King James Version were the first to introduce the new rendering of apostasia as " falling away." Most English translators have followed the KJV and Beza in departing from translating apostasia as " departure." No reason was ever given. "He [The antichrist] will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God." Vs 4. [The abomination of desolation, confirming Dan.9:27 and Mt.24:15]. See also 2 Thes.2:4. The rapture of the Church and verse 3 confirmed: In vs 7: "For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so until he [The saints - Church] is taken out of the way." The "he" who will be taken out of the way, is the one body of Christ, who bear the Holy Spirit within each of us [Eph.1:13-14], the Church of Jesus Christ. The very same as those who will participate in the "apostasia," the "departure," [the rapture] of the Church, in vs 3. Immediately following that: In verse 8: "And then the lawless one [The antichrist] will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of His mouth and destroy by the splendor of His coming." Vs 8. [See Rev.19:17-21]. The antichrist is found in all three of the "he's" in Dan. 9:27, confirmed by Jesus in Mt.24:15; Mk.13:14 and by Paul, in 2 Thes.2:3, 4 and 8. From the above Scriptural facts, there can be only one proper interpretation for the timing of the rapture of the Church, which will be immediately preceding the 70th and final/7 year tribulation, triggered by the antichrist, all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27. Seen also as the first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, riding the white horse, in the first of the seven seals, in Rev.6:2. There is no "pre-wrath" or post-trib rapture taught in the Scriptures. Other verses pertaining to the rapture of the Church: 1 Thes.1:10; 1 Thes.5:9; Rev.3:10 and Rev.4:1-2. Of the saints [Church] returning with Christ from their marriage in heaven, in Rev.19:7, 8 and 14; Jude 14 and Zech.14:4-5! The difference between the Second Coming of Christ and the pre-trib rapture of the Church: http://www.pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice...eenTheRapt.pdf Quasar93

I will argue no further. I will just state that one cannot have a very good understanding of anything in isolation. To grasp the NT one must know the OT. When the disciples taught every Sabbath after our Lord ascended, they used the Torah, and slowly added letters and epistles that later became the NT. God gave us this: HIS-STORY. It is complete and relevant - all of it. Yeshua, THE WORD made sure that the words we need are included and and not controversial or of any private interpretation. None are obsolete. No doctrine can stand against Yahweh and what His WORD reveals. The Truth of Yahweh is revealed by Holy Spirit thru the understanding of what He said and what He meant. It is not complicated; anyone may understand it clearly.

Why would anyone be seeking Scriptural teachings about the Church, in the OT, when it is addressed to Israel? The teachings about the Church begin at Pentecost, together with Jesus fulfilling the prophesied New Covenant, opening the doors to the Gospel being taught to the Gentiles, by Paul? Quasar93

The ministry of Jesus in His first advent was EXCLUSIVELY to Israel, that He made abundantly clear in Mt.15:24 and in 10:5-6. The Church DID NOT exist then, because the Holy Spirit had not yet come, [nor had the New Covenant been fulfilled], as recorded in Jn.7:39, until at Pentecost, ten days after Jesus had ascended into heaven, recorded in Acts 1:9 and in 2:1-3. The passages of Scripture you quoted are all a part of the above stated facts and have nothing at all to do with the Church, or the coming rapture of it. But John 14:2-3 and 28 does, together with Luke 21:36. Quasar93

The last trumpet, as referred to by Paul, in 1 Cor.15:51-52, is reference to the first general resurrection, recorded in Rev.20:4. Which is an event that will take place after Jesus second coming to earth WITH HIS CHURCH in Rev.19:14, from their marriage in heaven to the Lamb, while the tribulation is taking place on earth. The Church DOES NOT go through any part of the tribulation, as the OP documents, together with the following: It is relevant to keep in mind, the Church will DEPART in 2 Thess.2:3 [According to the original historic translation] and TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY, in verse 7, BEFORE the man of lawlessness is revealed, in 2 Thess.2:3, 4 and 8, who triggers the seven year tribulation, recorded in Dan.9:27 and Rev.6:2. The Church is in heaven for the marriage: the Bride/Church to the Lamb/Jesus, while the tribulation takes place on earth, in Rev.19:7-8. Followed immediately after with the second coming of Jesus, with His Church: Riding on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, in His armies from heaven, in verse 14. Solid Scriptural proof of the coming pre-trib rapture of the Church. Quasar93

I guess for me I just spend time in God's word when I am able. Some days I am not able and other days I am. But I never feel like Im cheating. If I miss a passge or whatever I know at some point in my life I will read it. I have missed a couple of days but I'll just start off on today's reading. I think sometimes we beat ourselves to much over the head over when we read or don't read that we miss the whole point of what this club is about. Sure it's about reading the Bible in a year but it seems much more than that in that it is designed to get you to actually read your Bible. I have been liking it because it helps me with what to read. Thank you Omegaman for the work you put into it to make our lives easier.

Hello missmuffit, Thanks for your input. You are quite right. it is relevant to keep in mind, the Church will DEPART in 2 Thess.2:3 [According to the original historic translation] and TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY, in verse 7, BEFORE the man of lawlessness is revealed, in 2 Thess.2:3, 4 and 8, who triggers the seven year tribulation, recorded in Dan.9:27 and Rev.6:2. The Church is in heaven for the marriage: the Bride/Church to the Lamb/Jesus, while the tribulation takes place on earth, in Rev.19:7-8. Followed immediately after with the second coming of Jesus, with His Church: Riding on white horses, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, in His armies from heaven, in verse 14. Solid Scriptural proof of the coming pre-trib rapture of the Church. God Bless. Quasar93

I am a pretribulation believe because that is what the Bible tells me. But be prepared there are many on Worthy who are not and will debate it to the end The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows: 1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14). 2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41). 4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30). 5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6–18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54). Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct? 1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent—there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30). 3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6–19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation—also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)—God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31). The rapture and second coming are similar but separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire. https://www.gotquestions.org/difference-Rapture-Second-Coming.html

Matthew 19:28--And Jesus said unto them, Truly I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Messieh comes in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matthew 25:31--When the Messieh shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory. This coming with power and great glory with his angels is well documented (Matthew 24:30-31). And that he sits on an earthly throne after this coming cannot be disproven. Right now, John saw him on a Throne in heaven. He is there as God and reigns as God on that throne. He has never ceased to be God and there has ever been a Kingdom of God in heaven. He said: Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool. But he also said to the Apostles his throne would be upon this earth. He brought this heavenly Kingdom to earth and he will reign here in person as the heir of David's throne in the millennial. 2Peter 3:8--But beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. In verse 7 it appears Apostle Peter had given a prophecy of the very end of the world when it would be destroyed. Then in retrospect of a time before that event he gives us the prophecy of the thousand years and equates it as one day with the Lord. He urges us not to be ignorant of this time frame of a day being equal to a thousand years. Revelation 20:4--And I saw thrones, and they that sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,and for the word of God,and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their foreheads, or upon their hands; and they lived and reigned with Messieh a thousand years. Matthew 25:34--Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of God, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 1Corinthians 6:9--Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, etc. ect. Revelation 21:7--They that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be their God, and they shall be my elect. Revelation 5:10--And has made us unto God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Revelation 20:6--Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Messieh, and shall reign with him a thousand years. It is obvious that the 1,000 years follows the resurrection. It is also obvious the 1,000 years is a time when death has no power over the Saints of God. This can only be after the second coming at which time it is said: 1Corinthians 15:54--So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. It is further obvious that the 1,000 years is after the first physical resurrection of those dead, after death has no power, that the resurrected Saints reign as Priests of God for one thousand years. The sequence must remain intact and in sequential order. The same 1,000 years the devil is bound is the same 1,000 years those who were martyred for not taking the mark of the beast are physically raised in a resurrection and reign with the Lord. To say the 1,000 years runs concurrently or parallel with the Church is to say the physical resurrection of those who were martyred is past. The amillennialist have yet to prove there are resurrected martyrs in the world and have been here since their alleged 1,000 began. Such is demanded if the spiritualization of the 1,000 years as the Church age is correct. Are there many thousands of Saints who already have immortality and are deathless, and that they are now as Priest reigning with Messieh upon the earth? The present Ministry of the Church are not reigning and are forbidden to be Lord's over God's heritage. They are nor deathless. And the resurrection and immortality have not come yet because Jesus has not returned. To have immortality here now is to say that Jesus has come already. And if he has, what of their end of the world when he comes. Why are we still here? Why has not the world ended? Please read on now as I bring forth more on this important endtime subject. Quasar93

Yes, I have a question. With the advent of the internet and "Got Questions.org" as the instant authoritative resource for answers to everything Bible. Is there any need for the Bible God's word to be made available to the world at large? Why read the word of God, as it is hard work? Why pray, as it is hard work? Why think, as it is hard work? Why engage with brothers and sisters in corporate worship at local bodies of Christ Jesus, as it too is hard work? Why engage in the encouragement of fellowship at local church bodies, fo rthat too is hard work? Why not just type in a question on a internet device and get 'THE ANSWER!" from got questions.org the CliffsNotes of commentaries? Why not declare Got Questions to be our priests between us and God? Won't that work out better than us studying the word of God personally, as well as together with other saints, iron sharpening iron building up the body of Christ? And will we not then be able to eliminate the hardest of all work, that of the personal articulating of what we have learned togther under the guidance of the Holy Spirit's indwelling power within each of the saints? Am I wrong to think Got Questions is a disservice, rather than a service?

Though I've only looked at GQ a few times, I do use many sources of biblical understanding, all of which aid me in understanding. Pro_11:14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety. Pro_12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. Pro_19:20 Hear counsel, and receive instruction, that thou mayest be wise in thy latter end. But, lest we forget, 2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

One thing I have always wondered Quasar. Do you think that God will have an angel escort each and everyone of us to be with Him at the rapture? To make sure we get there safely because Satan isn't going to like it.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, I also referred to nuns. Was not trying to be tolerant but to offer an idea about how all dressed 2017 years ago. The point was that though out the middle east and Greece, it was the custom of "respectable" women to cover their heads when in public in those days. Slaves and prostitutes were exempt. This is not the norm in our present culture. They were called veils in many translations of the Bible. But they were not like what we consider a veil which we can see through. The purpose was to hide the hair. "Veiling did not originate with the advent of Islam. Statuettes depicting veiled priestesses precede all major Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam), dating back as far as 2500 BCE.[53] Elite women in ancient Mesopotamia and in the Byzantine, Greek, and Persian empires wore the veil as a sign of respectability and high status.[54] In ancient Mesopotamia, Assyria had explicit sumptuary laws detailing which women must veil and which women must not, depending upon the woman's class, rank, and occupation in society.[54] Female slaves and prostitutes were forbidden to veil and faced harsh penalties if they did so.[5] Veiling was thus not only a marker of aristocratic rank, but also served to "differentiate between 'respectable' women and those who were publicly available".[5][54] "Strict seclusion and the veiling of matrons were also customary in ancient Greece. Between 550 and 323 B.C.E, prior to Christianity, respectable women in classical Greek society were expected to seclude themselves and wear clothing that concealed them from the eyes of strange men.[55]" There is archeological evidence suggesting that early Christian women in Rome covered their heads.[56] Writings of Tertullian indicate that a number of different customs of dress were associated with different cults to which early Christians belonged around 200 CE.[56] The best known early Christian view on veiling is the passage in 1 Corinithians (11:4-7), which states that "every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head"." Wiki on history of hijab. It was purely a custom that is no long practiced in the western world. Most of this was abandoned due to women riding bicycles and participating in athletics. Men's clothing changed over the years as well, as did the length of their hair. I didn't have to wear a scarf to demonstrate my deep respect for my late husband, or my submission to him. But I do feel a bit vulnerable not having him as my covering and giving me direction. Wearing something on my head would not take his place. I still pray for direction, but did not realize how much I had depended on my husband. We were a well oiled unit. He leaves a big hole in my life.

Interesting thought. I tend to think I agree! Yet, I do ask all of my original questions still, with perhaps one new perviso. Is it a disservice to just post Got Questions, without adding one's own research, and conclusions based upon also reading and praying and thinking? If it is good to just post Got Questions and sit back without personal study and Holy Spirit led personal writing, why not shutdown now and just hit got questions when one comes up, and just stay home maybe watching easy on the mind heart and soul tv the rest of the time? Why be about the business preparing for the sharing of the gospel of Jesus with an with an unsaved world?

The church is built upon Christ as its foundation; it is to obey Christ as its head. It is not to depend upon man, or be controlled by man. Many claim that a position of trust in the church gives them authority to dictate what other men shall believe and what they shall do. Such a claim has no merit whatsoever. The Saviour declares, "All ye are brethren." Everyone is exposed to temptation, and are liable to error. No-one is infallible, no, not even the pope. Upon no mortal finite being can we depend for guidance. The Rock of faith is the living presence of Christ in the church. Even the weakest least knowledgeable person may depend on the Spirit of God to impart to them understanding and to reveal truth. "Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm." The Lord "is the Rock, His work is perfect." "Blessed are all they that put their trust in Him." Jeremiah 17:5; Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 2:12

When it is right, it may be helpful, providing or provided it supplies the Scripture and the Truth about Scripture, from Scripture. Sometimes it is wrong. As Jesus stated clearly, many may read the Scripture and study it thinking that in Scripture they will find life. Yet they reject Jesus, even though they are the best 'scholars' around. Also, clear from all Scripture - no one can understand anything, unless the Father in heaven grants it . Also clear, He must take away the veil - no one can take it away themself, nor can anyone else take it away - so people remain blind to the truth, no matter how much they read , no matter how much they memorize Scripture, and no matter how many PhD's or other so-called 'degrees' as scholars or whatever they have. The Father takes great pleasure in hiding salvation from the educated, and the Father takes great pleasure in REVEALING ALL THINGS to babes !

bud, great that y0u get my question....in fact until I am on the other side of it. is exactly my feeling the experience that prompted my question was a small matter compared to your family decison. I was exited by an idea to get custom sounds into this laptop for activation whenever, like new mail, occurs. I persisted trying to download the right app and spent 3 hours going round in circles, as each app failed to do the job. Finally I gave up and sat on the toilet in dispair. The the Lord whispered "trust me, not a good idea"

I have seldom seen the door I am being dragged through by God, until I am on the other side of it. But; the one time I do remember, it was a nine month gestation process filled with paralyzing times of quiet and even depression, visions and well kind of prophesy in that others were also led to making my move into the action my Lord was compelling me to do via the Holy Spirit. It was a hard and a bit of a horrible time. Yet one that became a time of awe and wonder of God within me. -And then I had to move my family 2800 miles to honor that call.

My condensed version might read something like this: Why would the bridegroom severely beat up his bride before their wedding and wedding supper? The catching away (Rapture) almost exactly mirrors a traditional Jewish wedding. Everything from the preparation of the dwelling at his fathers house, to the wait, watching, unexpected arrival of the bridegroom to snatch his bride in secret, taking her to his fathers house whom he prepared for her, to the wedding feast and celebration. It appears to be an exact match.

you guys know that I like to talk....... but that's so disgusting I actually think I'm speechless...

I agree with that

Ayin, I started feeling weak and hurting early Tuesday morning... was at the doctors office by 1:00 and got shots and Cipro.... Left doctors office about 1:30 and drove to CVS. While waiting for my Cipro to be filled I got those chilled shakes and nearly passed out. I feel better today, but still kind of weak and feel like I have walked about 5 miles...... and yes at 70 I can still do that if I'm having a good day with my knee. Haven't bled any since yesterday afternoon. I have three open wounds on my arms while dealing with the contaminated water and I am really concerned about that. I would like to know what was in the water in those tanks that turned it yellow. I drained and flushed the tanks out with some fairly strong Clorox solutions so I don't know if I'll ever be able to tell. I left the last batch of Clorox in the tanks to make sure whatever is there is dead (and probably half the seals is the system) I'm going to take some samples to the health department before we use the tanks again. Urgent care center sent samples in for cultures, and maybe they will know in a day or two what caused it. Had I not gone to the doctor as soon as the pain first started no telling what would have happened. Anyway I've never been that sick in my life.... even the two times I got pneumonia in both lungs.

I just ignore them. There is very little common sense on the roads today

Question: "What does it mean that Christians are not of this world?" Answer: The phrase “not of this world” is perhaps most well-known for being a Christian apparel company (http://www.notw.com/). But what exactly does it mean that Christians are “not of this world”? The phrase comes from John 18:36 where Jesus says that His kingdom is “not of this world.” As His followers, Christians are members of His kingdom which is “not of this world,” that is, heaven (Philippians 3:20). Yes, we are on earth for now, but our earthly lives are nothing but a vapor (James 4:14). But eternity, now that is a long time, and that is where a Christian’s focus should really be (1 Peter 5:10). The things of this world, wars, famine, suffering, poverty, etc., impact Christians and non-Christians alike. By remembering that we are “not of this world,” remembering that these things are just for a little while, we can see them in a different light. We are still in this world but we are no longer of it (John 17:14). We are still surrounded by all the horrors and tragedy of this life, but this is not our life (Philippians 3:8-14). The knowledge that we are not of this world gives Christians hope even in the darkest times (1 Peter 1:6-9); hope that this will pass and at the end of it we will be in heaven with our God, face to face forever (Revelation 21:3-4). This cracked and broken place is not where we belong, and it is not where we will stay (1 Corinthians 3:12). Christians are not of this world. We have been adopted as heirs of heaven by God Himself and that is our world, our citizenship (Titus 3:7). And in the meanwhile we wait (2 Corinthians 5:12), and we hope (Romans 5:5), and we do what we can to bring others into the “not of this world” relationship with Jesus Christ. But this world is not our home, and never will be. https://www.gotquestions.org/not-of-this-world.html

Idol worship. When we love anything more than God, be it our flesh, family, desires, or any other created thing we commit idolatry. "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him." - John 4:23 God give us what we need to believe and stay with Him, no matter what happens. "For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake," - Philippians 1:29 "For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith." - 1 John 5:4

Nothing is too hard for God. So I ask Him to solve it and glorify Himself in the situation. I ask Him to show me the way. And I stop trying to solve it in my own strength. Sometimes God gives me these things to force me to rely on Him and His wisdom and power.

Sounds like the Mennonites that I have seen around here though they wear black caps pinned to their hair. A woman must have a sign on her head for the sake of the angels 1 Corinthians 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. This is in reference to the Ezekiel vision of God and the angels who covered themselves with their wings so their glory would not be a distraction. So a woman is to imitate the angels 1 Cor 11 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. You can wear a hat or a veil, as long as you avoid those that would make you look like a gang member. They should be decent. I wear head scarves or veils.

Sometimes it is a herculean task.......until and unless God gives the unction and strength, because I sure have it not of myself. His strength is needed for these things, the devil fights truth from coming forth just as much as he fights it after it has come forth. And I have already answered your quesion in what I have already posted. But we need to make sure our motivation is right brother, because God doesn't give understanding if our motives are not right before Him.........at such times He veils the truth instead of opening it. However, I hope this will help.......since lusting and seducing is just as much sin even if it's only in the heart without any actual acts.......having a reminder of authority on our heads is like a reminder (sign) which lends all concerned power to remain in a place of purity in our hearts, I think that is sufficient to understand. It subdues evil spirits (in our flesh and will) from their spiritual activity, yes it does, exactly like how the word of God is raised as a banner against evil and has a purifying effect for that reason and cleanses leaven. It has a way of disallowing the evil, might be another way of saying that....power. Reminders/signs are a spiritual weapon in other words. This is by no means all the wisdom there is to be had about head coverings, just a little portion that God has been gracious to me thus far. Reminders even have power with God, so to speak, since He magnifies His word above His own name, and that is why in prayer we are to remind Him of His promises and His word. That is such a blessing to understand...thank you Lord. So a head covering is a sign, a token, a reminder, it isn't in vain that we are to wear it, it has power. Genesis 9:13-17 I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth. “It shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow will be seen in the cloud, and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. “When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” And God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth.”

We are allowed to ask God for wisdom about things, brother. Maybe you never asked Him for wisdom about head coverings because you are not a woman. I was raised in a dead religion that also sometimes encouraged head covering for women and I guess that's why sometimes I do ask Him for His wisdom about things because I know I lack it unless He shows me. I don't want to do things just for the sake of religious pageantry and outward appearance or bowing to pressure and submitting out of fear of man, I prefer to have at least some understanding and make sure in my heart that HE is the one I am serving and obeying and not dead religion or man............and the Lord is so gracious to answer my prayer and upbraideth not.

You are right, my apologies.

Hi Lokp. Welcome to the Worthy discussion forum. You ask what you could do, and others responded , offering suggestions. It would be obvious they did read your welcome, but perhaps they did not address what you wanted them to. You sound a little put out at the responses. Why not be a little more straight forward and say what you are looking for. I see your retired and disabled, with a neurological disease. And you get around with your scooter. I believe I saw several great ways above posted that answered your question, "how do you make known His deeds". If I knew what your seeking, I would like to help, perhaps with my own experiences or understanding. Below are several ways God shows you how you can do what you ask, without even leaving your home. David's Song of Thanks 1Ch 16:8 Give thanks unto the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people. How do we do that, Lokp asks..................... 1Ch 16:9 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works. 1Ch 16:10 Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the LORD. 1Ch 16:11 Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually. 1Ch 16:12 Remember his marvellous works that he hath done, his wonders, and the judgments of his mouth; 1Ch 16:13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones. 1Ch 16:14 He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth. 1Ch 16:15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations; 1Ch 16:16 Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac; 1Ch 16:17 And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant, 1Ch 16:18 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance; 1Ch 16:19 When ye were but few, even a few, and strangers in it. 1Ch 16:20 And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 1Ch 16:21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 1Ch 16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm. 1Ch 16:23 Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; shew forth from day to day his salvation. 1Ch 16:24 Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations. 1Ch 16:25 For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised: he also is to be feared above all gods. 1Ch 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 1Ch 16:27 Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 1Ch 16:28 Give unto the LORD, ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 1Ch 16:29 Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 1Ch 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. 1Ch 16:31 Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice: and let men say among the nations, The LORD reigneth. 1Ch 16:32 Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof: let the fields rejoice, and all that is therein. 1Ch 16:33 Then shall the trees of the wood sing out at the presence of the LORD, because he cometh to judge the earth. 1Ch 16:34 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. 1Ch 16:35 And say ye, Save us, O God of our salvation, and gather us together, and deliver us from the heathen, that we may give thanks to thy holy name, and glory in thy praise. 1Ch 16:36 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel for ever and ever. And all the people said, Amen, and praised the LORD.

Um if it's approved, you can see I had similar dreams as you Sinbad

God's peace shroud pastor James Kennedy's soul. Thank you for sharing his video here. Is this discussion then among Calvinists, or Calvinism's teachings?

I suppose you think this is a "hot" topic. You guys need to.........CHILL!!!

I suppose you think this is a "hot" topic.

The subject burns me up!

Use it for training young doctors, dissections, etc. (usually, after death, less painful)

I suggest that cremation is not selected by most that make such a choice as a matter of financial concern. It is selected for other reasons of which there are many. In my own over 20 years experience in the funeral and cemetery industry it was our business experience that more affluent to wealthy individuals selected cremation than did more modestly affluent to poor families. I could expound on the whys of that but won't bore all with that .