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  1. According to the pretrib narrative, the body of Christ is made immortal and raptured at some point prior to the great tribulation. At that point, there are no believers left on the planet. The problem with that is that there are a multitude of believers beyond number who are martyred that come out of the great tribulation. After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands. Revelation 7:9 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 7:14 This is problematic for a couple of reasons. First of all, who are they? And second of all, where did they come from? Who are they? We know that they are new covenant believers because their robes are made white in the blood of the Lamb. By definition, new covenant believers have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them. According to these verses, that makes them a part of the body of Christ. There is one Holy Spirit, and there is one body of Christ. There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling. Ephesians 4:4 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 7:34 The pretrib doctrine states that the rapture ends the "church age" and that the totality of the body of Christ is with Jesus at the wedding feast. How can that possibly be when there is still a multitude of new covenant believers that come out of the great tribulation? Why would God leave out a part of the body of Christ at the wedding feast? They are clearly new covenant believers who have been baptized into one body by one Spirit so why aren't they included? Where did they come from? If all the believers are raptured before the great tribulation then where did that multitude of new covenant believers come from? A great revival? That runs contrary to how the Bible describes those days. When asked about His return Jesus' first words were "See to it that no one misleads you." Those days are days of deception, not revival. The one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 The man of sin comes with all the deception of wickedness. Also, a deluding influence is sent upon the unbelievers that they might believe a lie. How can a multitude of unbelievers who are under the influence of a strong delusion from God shake off that deception and come to a martyr's faith? It doesn't fit what the Bible teaches. ~~~~~~~~~ The only explanation that I've heard is that these "tribulation saints" are a kind of hybrid group all by themselves, a new classification of believers. I'm told that they are new covenant believers and have the one Holy Spirit indwelling but somehow they are not a part of the one body of Christ. Is this idea supported anywhere in scripture? Did I miss something?
  2. I don't think you missed anything. This is a troublesome truth for the pretrib doctrine and difficult to adjudicate in a satisfactory manner. To add to the above I have posed a question several times that is ignored as the doctrine cannot answer this all important query. For one, the pretrib doctrine supposed the last week is equivalent to the wrath of God. This is unsupported and therefore a false premise. But it allows for a pretrib rapture as, "we are not appointed to wrath", which is true. Attached to the false equivalency of 70th=wrath then, Rapture=pretrib. Internal consistency, false conclusion. But again, this reasoning allows for the pretrib rapture. According to the doctrine then all the 70th week is God's wrath, or as some depart from this, only the second half is Gods' wrath. In the second half the GT takes place and as you quoted above, "I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 7:14" an innumerable host of believers stand before the throne and around the throne. Pretrib's doctrine demands this group of believers arrive in the throne room after enduring the wrath of God. This question can be added to the Who? and Where? queries from the OP: If pretrib doctrine equates the GT and God's wrath, and the church escapes this time through "we are not appointed to wrath", then how is it a vast group of believers endured God's wrath to stand before the throne in heaven? This dives right into the segregation of the body as you stated. Where is this segregation supported by scriptural fact? I would also like to touch on this 'church age' thing. The dispensation of grace and faith is the origin of the church age, so it's said. We have moved out of the dispensation of law and we now enjoy grace. What freedom! No longer under the law the path to God is now through Christ and not burdensome liturgy and ritual. I don't buy it. It has always been faith and grace. Job was justified by faith. The original patriarch of the congregation was counted as righteous because of faith in God's word and by the grace of the almighty Lord. If we are in Christ we are of the seed of Abraham with all the attendant promises and warnings. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile. The seekers of El Shaddai will know this through the Spirit of God; there has never been any segregation in the body of Christ from the foundation of the world. It has always been Jesus Christ, it is now all about Jesus, and it will always be about Jesus, forever. "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved."" This is for every soul from every age. There is no 'church age', no segregation of the 'church', the 'body', OT saints, nor GT saints. "If You Are Christ’s, Then You Are Abraham’s Seed. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise." This alone should put the matter to rest.
  3. Emotions like fear, sadness, and anger often tear at me in each season of life. Prayer and connection to God anchors me because it reminds me that God is in control, He's good, and that He loves me. It is a blessing to pray for my husband and to feel peace. It's great to be able to just thank God for all the wonderful things He's already done in our lives. I've been listening to messages on prayer that say to pray boldly and not to lose heart. It's something that's become so important me, I can't imagine life without it. I'm so glad I can boldly come to the Lord through Christ. Praise God!
  4. God's plan is like a treasure hunt. We follow one step at a time as that step is revealed. Only He can see the master plan. Someone once said that it is like a needlepoint, but we can only see the underside that is a tangle of threads. We are told to place a thread in a certain place but can't see the outcome. We just do our part as we are told, one step at a time. This can be frustrating unless we can rest in the wisdom of our Master and simply trust.
  5. Mattehw 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
  6. I think these discussions are vital in the faith. It's my hope that the truth is spoken as it is written concerning this topic. Alas, that isn't always the case and I'm probably guilty of an error or two in this topic as well, hopefully in an innocent fashion and not as a deliberate promotion of agenda or personal longing. I heard someone say, "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts." In this topic it seems as though we arrive at conclusions before facts instead of allowing the facts to guide us to the conclusion. It's not a mystery why this happens but it is telling that so many diverse conclusions exist. How is it possible we are all hearing the voice of the Lord on this? For instance, Pretrib and Post Trib are on opposite ends of the timeline of the end of the age. Each doctrine has it's adherents and each group claims they have the truth of the matter and the other group is wrong. Either both are wrong or one is. We are confronted with the reality there is only one end of the age. There isn't two or three. The book has been written with all the need to know information about this time, the books actually. Does it make any sense that the information contained in those books could mean many things to many people? Would it not be the case that there is only one correct conclusion to the set of facts contained in the books written about the end of age? None of the facts given by our Lord to us about the end of age are unrelated. The facts are the driving force hurling us along to the revealing of the time to come. These facts march along with us in tow leading to truth, hopefully. And we all have access to the same set of facts. Now how can there be many conclusions to the same set of facts? Something is wrong. The same Spirit cannot be giving competing conclusions to facts the Spirit recorded for us; the facts of that Spirit, by that Spirit, foretold by that same Spirit, and coming to pass by the power of the Spirit. We tend favor our perspective. That works. In the world we live in; jobs, commutes, the gym, poker night, whatever, a personal perspective on these things and more is appropriate and necessary. While we are all the same in many respects we are also individuals. But when it comes to the truth of the Spirit of God we continue on the path of personal perspective. Our fantasy realms usurp the reality of the Spirit. Something is very wrong. Instead of allowing the Spirit to fill us with the greater perspective, instead of humbling ourselves to hear the Spirit, we rebel. We don't like to hear the truth of reality. We impound the truth in our minds dungeon like a criminal. Too many times the truth is viewed as sedition, a bad actor subverting our personal take, destroying the carefully constructed fantasy of personal perspective. This is the enemies doing. There is only one Spirit of truth, and there should be only one truth in every concept of the scriptures of truth, not the many we experience today. This is division. All the diverse conclusions cannot be valid. Only one. We have been led astray by the enemy. The exhortation to, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." means we should start getting out of her now.
  7. You have to make a habit of being productive, meditating on the good thoughts (which is among the reason why constant prayer is so healthy) , and completely avoid "suggestions" that might tempt you into having bad thoughts! Life is overflowing with suggestions so it'd rather difficult, that's why you have to forego television, most of music, and surround yourself with colorful people that lead good lives, or are trying to, also avoid the news networks that are throwing non-stop propaganda at your face and telling you how to think. All of these things overflow with suggestions which are intended to rot your brain, it's how Satan attaches his spirit to people. But recognize what is tempting you into having bad thoughts, if its a person, learn to forgive them and try not to tempt yourself by thinking about them too much, maintain a productive life and don't linger in your thoughts, if you have bad thoughts in the morning ask God to take them away from you and get up right out of bed as soon as you wake up. If you have bad thoughts during your day, ask God to take them away from you and disengage from what you're doing (or not doing), and start on a project so you can get back on your feet. Don't stay still, keep moving and not only meditating on the good things of life but also praying for them alongside pursuing them! That is the process of cleaning inside the cup, but it's a process and we will be tempted along the way. Consider yourself VERY lucky that you even have this desire. It comes to few people, how lucky are you that God enticed you with his spirit? That is already proof that he's working inside of you.
  8. 6/10 --- My friends Gabe & Debbie are about to board the Carnival Dream, for a three-port cruize leaving from New Orleans. As it turns out, it seems there are thunderstorms all around the area ... and throughout the cruize. So, I lift them up in prayer to the Lord ... “O God, our heavenly Father, whose glory fills the whole creation, and whose presence we find wherever we go: preserve those who travel; surround them with your loving care; protect them from every danger; and bring them in safety to their journey's end; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.” Thank you for your prayers. God bless, Joe
  9. I was born with gastroschisis a birth defect (caused me to be born without a belly button) I grew up with my mother and two other siblings. My mum taught me about God and came to my school once to talk about him. After that I was teased and Kids would say things like what I would be getting for my birthday. Kids over heard and mocked saying is Jesus going to buy you that. It was horrible the fact that I didn’t know how to react. I grew up and was very troubled I constantly stayed in my room watched any movie I wanted mostly horror movies. I then felt ill due to having a cyst so I was in hospital for an operation after that. I missed a lot of school and didn’t want to go back. I didn’t like school at all. So I changed schools and the most I went was for two days and I done some study but never finished it. I never went back never got a qualification and never finished school. I then get older and tried to feel something other than pain I was addicted not to the drugs but to sleeping around, I was craving love from all the wrongs things I was so miserable and all the while I called myself a Christian. I went in and out of relationships and suffered depression and anxiety and all the things I tried to harm myself and I felt so rejected I was baptised and had gone to church and meetings. Then I met a guy who was meant to make everything go away I wouldn’t have to fight for love. One night I had a dream I woke up crying and the dream turned out to play out in real life. My sister and boyfriend were sleeping together. I couldn’t handle it I was so broken and cried myself to sleep every night. After two years of going back to the only thing I knew was sleeping around. Then my lord and saviour saved me. I had read the bible and went to church but I never felt it. I needed a way out. So I went to these groups called the Jesus tent with my mum she’d been asking me to go to for ages and she wanted me to watch my little sister. One of my mums friends was there and he prayed for me then along the way id go to meetings and feel touched and start crying uncontrollably in front of everyone. It was my heart crying out to God. The man would come over and ask to pray with me in away that I could connect with. He’d tell me what God wanted me to know and I would just cry. I started to change. I want to say I jumped but I walked into God’s arms. I felt rejected and every time someone would pray for me and break off the rejection and all the things holding me down God was taking away the chains that held me from jumping into his arms. The more I trusted God the more I started to feel changed. He has been so evident in my life with so many blessing I owe everything to God! This is a short version of my testimony if anyone would like to hear more 😊
  10. I'm just now reconverting and prayers would be greatly appreciated.
  11. Hi Last Daze, Good question to ask as it pertains to us making sure we are looking for the Lord coming and growing in the knowledge of His purposes. OK, so these people are described as - - out of all the nations, - Gentiles. - standing before the throne and before the Lamb, - the Lamb (capital `L`) relates to God`s purpose for Israel (& thus the nations) - clothed in white robes, - repented and accepted God`s salvation. - palm branches, - indicating the time of the Tabernacle of God coming down, (New Jerusalem). The palm branches were what Israel built tabernacles with to remind them of God dwelling with them. The nations (Gentiles) shall walk in its light, on the earth. - came out of the great tribulation, - did not take the mark of the beast. - washed in the blood of the Lamb, - through Christ they are saved from hell and have eternal life, (on the earth). Thus this great multitude are - `And the nations (Gentiles) of those who are saved, shall walk in its (NJ) light, and the kings of the earth shall bring their glory into it.` (Rev. 21: 24) regards, Marilyn.
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    And His love is............Jesus... Jesus is the HEART of God.
  13. Prayer is sometimes the best thing we can do. When a person is being attacked by the enemy as in your illustration, and they are without hope, we can't do much but God can. The person on the phone should have offered more opportunity to listen to his friend, through, had he been more sensitive. Sometimes a person most needs a friend to talk to. We can't always be there in person. We have had people on worthy who repeatedly say they have survived suicide attempts. These people also need Christian professional help. A good many survivors are looking for attention. The people who are serious about it will most often do it in such a way that there is absolutely no way a person can survive. But all thoughts of suicide need to be taken seriously and family and authorities should be informed.
  14. This, "These are they which came [away from] out of great tribulation, " is tomfoolery. "Away from"? Let me show you again: erchomai: to come, go Short Definition: I come, go Definition: I come, go. NAS Exhaustive Concordance Definition to come, go ek or ex: from, from out of Short Definition: from out, out from among, from Definition: from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards. HELPS Word-studies 1537 ek (a preposition, written eks before a vowel) – properly, "out from and to" (the outcome); out from within. 1537 /ek ("out of") is one of the most under-translated (and therefore mis-translated) Greek propositions – often being confined to the meaning "by." 1537 (ek) has a two-layered meaning ("out from and to") which makes it out-come oriented (out of the depths of the source and extending to its impact on the object). 'Erchomai ek' is either 'come from the middle out', or 'go from the middle out'. In proper speech 'ek' is 'out from going to', a complete action of leaving a condition and going to another condition. From the above analysis of the definition of 'ek' it's apparent what is 'come out from' has had direct influence on whatever has 'come out'. That's not the case in the Pretrib interpretation, meaning the Pretrib stance on this is incorrect. The fragment could be written thus, "These are they which come out from the inside of great tribulation," The action 'away from', as in 'avoidance' is not represented here. Here is 'away' in the Greek NT: Strong's Greek: 683. ἀπωθέομαι (apótheó) -- to thrust ...Strong's Greek: 667. ἀποφέρω (apopheró) -- to carry off ...Strong's Greek: 4879. συναπάγω (sunapagó) -- to lead away ... Strong's Greek: 851. ἀφαιρέω (aphaireó) -- to take from ...... Strong's Concordance. aphaireó: to take from, take away. Strong's Greek: 520. ἀπάγω (apagó) -- to lead away Strong's Greek: 617. ἀποκυλίω (apokulió) -- to roll away Strong's Greek: 3583. ξηραίνω (xérainó) -- to dry up ...Strong's Greek: 1821. ἐξαποστέλλω (exapostelló) Strong's Greek: 4014. περιαιρέω (periaireó) -- to take ...Strong's Greek: 654. ἀποστρέφω (apostrephó) -- to turn ...Strong's Greek: 1578. ἐκκλίνω (ekklinó) -- to deviate, to ... Strong's Greek: 3855. παράγω (paragó) -- to lead by, to ...Strong's Greek: 3901. παραῤῥυέω (pararreó) -- to flow ...Strong's Greek: 3911. παραφέρω (parapheró) -- to bring to ... Strong's Greek: 645. ἀποσπάω (apospaó) -- to draw off ...Strong's Greek: 628. ἀπολούω (apolouó) -- to wash off ...Strong's Greek: 868. ἀφίστημι (aphistémi) -- to lead ... Strong's Greek: 3133. μαραίνω (marainó) -- to quench ...Strong's Greek: 1601. ἐκπίπτω (ekpipto) -- I fall out ...Strong's Greek: 3895. παραπίπτω (parapiptó) -- to fall ... Now with all the different ways to say 'away from', why do none of these appear in Rev 7:13? Because that's not what Jesus meant. That's why 'ek' appears. While I find these word studies enlightening and interesting, having to go through a word study to prove a point that should come about through normal reading, common sense, understanding our Father's character and plan, and the leading of the Spirit, is a woeful commentary on the mindset of the body of Christ. Repent, trust, believe and let the Spirit lead, in Jesus name.
  15. Not pointing fingers but the office of President must be all inclusive no matter what faith exists in our country. Gay marriage and trans gender is at the top of the list. This alone excludes being Born again in the spirit. They may believe in their mind that they are right with God but our brother said it right. You will know them be their fruit. The hush up about the Stormy D was to keep it under the rug until he got office. There is not one president that claim's to be a true to His faith believer in Christ walking in the spirit. Christians who believe they can we need to pray for them. Honor the president for his office but as a true believer its all in their head.
  16. Mark 13:23 "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. Where did Christ tell us about the rapture?
  17. I am posting this for the sake of those who are not aware why Tolerance is not of Christ please refer to Wikipedia I am not familiar with the new windows and not able o copy past articles What is wrong with world peace and religious harmony. World peace is a desirable and an attractive ideal. Who would not want this. Our Bible warns us not chase after the worldly rainbows. 1st John 2:15. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life and no man comes to the Father except by me. This is not the intent of many Christians today. They will follow after the RCC who does not hold to this thereby they love religious tolerance and despise Christ. There is so much today that is plunging to destruction. This is not our home . I think of David when perused by Saul wrote in a Psalm if only I had wings like a birdt I would fly away to a peaceful place. How many times I was living in rebellion and still while I was saved. Sin follows us even after forgiveness. Just as it was with David. My lessons to were from Psalm 27
  18. There are a few scriptures that point to varying rewards.. This of course does not include salvation.. Anyone who believes Jesus and trusts in the atonement He secured for them will be saved.. Matthew 5: KJV 19 "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." So both will be in the kingdom of Heaven. But one will be called Great while the other one will be called least.. In the parable of Jesus:: Luke 19: KJV 12"He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. {13} And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. {14} But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us. {15} And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. {16} Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. {17} And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. {18} And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds. {19} And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities." In the above parable both servants where rewarded by the LORD upon his return and where given authority.. But one received 10 cities and the other 5 cities .. I believe the pound given to them represents the Gospel and their trading represents their witnessing to others the Gospel.. Matthew 16:LKV 27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." Revelation 22 "{12} And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. {13} I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
  19. ‘And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.’ (Gen 3:8)
  20. 'And the eyes of them both were opened, .. and they knew that they were naked; .... and they sewed fig leaves together, ...... and made themselves aprons.’ (Gen.3:7) * The repetition of the word, 'and', stresses the importance to take note of each element: whereas, the absence of the word 'and' intends that we give emphasis to the conclusion rather than each clause. Praise God! For that little word and it's usage. * All praise to God! Whose Word this is! For manipulating the mind and the senses that we may know and understand every shade of meaning and element of importance within the text He is using, that we may see and believe that He IS, and that He is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him. * Praise His Holy Name!
  21. Yes, it’s that one and one relationship between a believer and Jesus. Thanks for your post. Much love in Christ, Not me.
  22. Thanks for this Not Me, it really is about that still small voice isn't it
  23. Yes, drinking can cause many problems. Will be praying for you
  24. This would be a great topic in our inner court general discussion. After you have replied here a few time perhaps it can be moved. Some of the great evangelists also prayed for that cleansing and refilling of the Spirit, and God moved in a powerful way. So intense prayer may also be a part of it all.
  25. Scriptural model: Acts 8:26 ¶ And the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, Arise and go toward the south, on the way that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza, which is a desertedplace . 27 And he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasure and had come to Jerusalem to worship, 28 was returning. And sitting in his chariot he read Isaiah the prophet. 29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, Go near and join yourself to this chariot. 30 And Philip ran there to him and heard him read the prophet Isaiah, and said, Do you indeed understand what you are reading? 31 And he said, How can I unless some man should guide me? And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. 32 And the content of the Scripture which he read was this: "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so He opened not His mouth. 33 In His humiliation His judgment was taken away, and who shall declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth." 34 And the eunuch answered Philip and said, I beg you, of whom does the prophet speak this? Of himself or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth and began at the same Scripture and preached the gospel of Jesus to him. 36 And as they passed along the way, they came on some water. And the eunuch said, See, here is water, what hinders me from being baptized? 37 Philip said, If you believe with all your heart, it is lawful. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still. And they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch. And he baptized him.
  26. Thank you, naomi, for this inspiring message. "Never lose your JOY! God has you in the palm of His hand, stand strong! The Lord shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace." - Exodus 14:14 PRAISE GOD!!!
  27. Oh wow so sorry. May God rapidly relieve your pains and heal your injuries. Hey, were you sitting in an Acorn brand chair lift and have the chair seat post fail at the base? There is a recall on them! They were spot welded instead of a continuous weld. Evidently some have failed as they have a recall on all of them. I just had mine replaced by the Acorn Company.
  28. I am thinking it will never have the guts to do that again....(drum roll)
  29. First off, dont beat yourself up over this. Technically, you do not have the right to do this to Some One Else's servant. God knows your desire to change, and i would venture to say He gave you this desire because there is nothing good in the flesh and the only reason we would want to obey is God would make us want to. Keep that in the back of your mind... He is for you. Intense and constant prayer is needed. as well as lots of praise and worship. So if you got a good church to go to and the doors are open for some singing, then go. And set aside time every day to do this also. Nothing else is as important. renewing your mind takes discipline. also sin makes us want to run from God. Dont do that, God already knows. as soon as it pops up, repent and pray. do not expect results overnight either. God knows how to change you. and He wants to, and He will. Just be faithful to keep on keeping on.
  30. my wife trains our cats in the past to do tricks using cheese as a reward...
  31. HI THOMAS, I AM NOT ARGUING THAT SHARING IS NOT A GOOD THING. Sorry about the all caps. But in truth I would eat the odd looking apple myself and share of the better looking ones. I have enjoyed being a gleaner of the fields, some 535 acres, then canning the product, using it, and sharing it. Made for grand family adventures, fellowship and just neighborliness. I have traveled to pick of the fruit orchards and canned those as well. But I have listened to a man whose very mission was to work the deep ghetto share of the word of God and encourage others to get above their poverty and dependence on the government dole and Christian charity. He advocated providing gruel ( a porage/porridge with vitamins added) which he did so that the needy had good nourishment, but did not feast without labor. His own church chef would argue that more and better could be provided, but he insisted that would further cripple the already dependent upon hand outs. I found though it seemed a bit of tough love that I agreed. Still if I were to share of what was in my own lunch I would share the better and keep the lesser for myself. I have always hated, yes hated, the idea that so many give to the local church what they do not need anymore, as they buy new for themselves. I think no the church does not need your excess, your waste, your no longer needed junk. Keep it if it is still serviceable and give the new to the church to pass on to another. If one has something God wants them to share then share the best and not the least. Anyone can give away their excess junk, what Glory to God is there in that?
  32. Then youre doctrine of imminence is for the jews But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son...So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. By the way here goes your pre trib rapture completely out the window Mat 12:29 "Or else how can one enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.
  33. Father I join in prayer for this individual. Bring sobriety a cleansing without bringing about any somberness. May there be a refreshing, something to cling to that is so very positive that it crowds out all that tries to hold down and drag back from your presence and leading. Please protect by bringing many angels to encompass and guide.
  34. Hello friends, my favorite kind of water in nature is waterfalls! They're always right where you need them on a long hike through the wilderness, tucked away like God hid them there just for me. I guess my favorite kind of wild animal is a lion. Maybe not considered the best friend of Christians throughout the ages, but none the less majestic and mighty. I think it's funny how the male lion naps in the sun while the female goes out hunting. Lions are the first animal I'd like to see when i get to heaven. I also like turtles. I'd like to take my family and live on a tropical island for a few years, no one else but us, no phones, no tv, no media, no traffic. Just the bare essentials and the word of God. My favorite holiday is Christmas because there's so much more joy, and everything lit up to bring glory to the One and Only. The most awesome thing I've seen is God slowly but surely change a person from the inside out, and you know it's not them doing it but God, and then you get hope that maybe he'll change you too.
  35. Hi everyone, I'm Brian. My favorite means of transportation is by jeep. Top down. Sunny day. Fresh air. Out on the California backroads. My favorite class in school was physical education. Especially any sports we did outside. I loved math but hated grade 8 math class because the teacher was always rude and angry. I think the most interesting person in the Bible is Adam, the friendship he would have had with God, walking with him in the cool of the day, and how he would have been able to play with lions and bears, and how he would have enjoyed full health. I have an unhealthy obsession with life preservation and look forward to receiving my new incorruptible body one day. My favorite books are most any children's books by Dr Seuss. I loved to read them as a child and got a kick out of the silly names and creatures. Later in life i read them to my own kids and the custom lived on. The person who encouraged me the most was my grade 2 teacher. I had just started at a new school, had no friends, and she helped me fit in and feel welcome. She also taught me how to read. She would keep me in after school and told the other kids she was teaching me advanced material. Really she was helping me get to a grade 2 reading level because I didn't know the alphabet. She saw ny potential. She sacrificed a lot of time and energy for me.
  36. Hi jlesso88. And welcome to this discussion forum. At our church, a fellowship of believers, as believers, are Holy Ghost filled. I also believe I, or anyone, can have revival, and sometimes with others also. If it is true revival, it won't be a emotional show, but an inner cleansing. I pray for this often, for our body. May God bless your enthusiasm for Him.
  37. Annette


    It is great to be able to praise God no matter what we are going through.
  38. The Bible never says “ The righteous shall live by keeping the rules and keeping your repentance ledger up to date” The Bible says “The righteous shall LIVE by FAITH”. What you are describing is the faith walk that God wants His Children to undertake.The Bible isnt just a book about “ don’t do this and do do that”.Life is full of problems and God is looking for those who will turn to him and trust in His promises to get them through this life.Pass one test of faith, and God will put you through you another one— every time the test is just a little harder and requires more faith.This is how we grow in faith.Paul eventually got to the point he was content no matter what the circumstances were.That is how strong his faith walk made him. That is what God wants for us all.Our Faith is what started our walk with God , as Paul said......we are to finish the way we started.Faith is so pleasing to God that He created a Faith Hero Hall Of Fame That included scoundrels like David and Sampson.Heroes of faith who stumbled severely and were punished severely.Nowhere in the Bible do I see a chapter devoted to the heroes of good- doers or the heroes of repentance.If we give God what really pleases Him—- FAITH —-He will take care of the rest.
  39. Hi, from an old geezer now past most workforce day's terrors and opportunities. "Their level"? "Mind the work"? Therein might be found a couple of useful keys to relief from personal distress. Hey for years, once I was called to my own repentance by the Holy Spirit, and did hear and heed that call, I was often referenced as "Dudley Do Right" in workplace conversations. -Until the day came that they all called me "Boss!". I having become the bigger fish in the small pond was then up and led by God to a much larger body of water to have to learn to swim in among the larger fish yet. There is always, always, the challenge that leads to greater challenge so that each of us might continue to grow and not be stiffled kept small by our environment of littler water bodies. Best to keep humble, happy in all circumstance else it seems humility comes the hard way. Praise God for the work each day. Do the work well and be thankful. Let others see whatever they see. Serve God's good purposes in all that is done and try to do all that you do to His Glory. May God continue to give strength for all tasks. Congratulations on His having given you the opportunity of your new job! Praise God.
  40. patrick jane


    1 Thessalonians 5 King James Version (KJV) 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves. 14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. 15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men. 16 Rejoice evermore. 17 Pray without ceasing. 18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 19 Quench not the Spirit. 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 25 Brethren, pray for us. 26 Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss. 27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren. 28 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain
  41. Marilyn C


    Hey bro, Snow, Haven`t seen you around. Missed your friendly face and comments. Just looked at your profile and you have been here, just me who has been in other places, (lol). All the best, regards, Marilyn.
  42. All who try to live godly lives in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. 2Ti 3:10 But you have closely followed my doctrine, the conduct, the purpose, the faith, the long-suffering, the love, the patient endurance, 2Ti 3:11 the persecutions, the sufferings, such as happened to me in Antioch, in Iconium, in Lystra, what persecutions I bore. And the Lord delivered me out of all. 2Ti 3:12 And, indeed, all desiring to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. Your co workers are not your enemy. The battle is spiritual. Eph 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might. Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Eph 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world’s rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph 6:13 Therefore put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having the utility belt of truth buckled around your waist, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, Eph 6:15 and having fitted your feet with the preparation of the Good News of peace; Eph 6:16 above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 1Co 10:13 No temptation has taken you except what is common to man. God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but will with the temptation also make the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
  43. You have already sank to their level. You've said you feel hate, anger, irritation, and you return evil for evil. Think about what you've said. Now. How to fix it. [1.] You've said you've tried kindness and that you also return the irritation. That's a very mixed message indeed. So stop with the "getting them back" for their irritations. [2.] Don't engage in this game that they are playing with you. They enjoy seeing your be the odd man out. Ignore what can be ignored. Smile and take the conversation to something else. They should soon get the idea that you are not easily goaded anymore. It may stop. It may not. [3.] Have some compassion in your heart for these people who sound like that they are not saved. Pray for them regularly. [4.] Since this is a new job, you are the odd man out - the newbie. They should be treating you better. Perhaps they are just cliquish. Perhaps they are just mean-spirited. It wouldn't hurt to ask if you all could try and get along better. [5.] Keep every conversation and interaction professional. You don't have to pretend to be kind. They know you don't like them. What you do have to be is civil, professional, the adult in the room, the imitator of Christ in the room. [6.] If it gets too bad, don't feel like a "tattletale" if you have to go to the boss or the person who had enough faith to hire you and ask for advice on what to do. Tell them that you are not ratting anyone out and that you know these people won't change, but ask for a transfer or a different office or just help. [7.] This is going to take time. And work on your part.
  44. Hi starsong4, There are probably millions of people living now, and in days gone by who have never heard of God, Jesus, the Bible, God's Word, who will be judged by God, not according to the Law or commandments, but by the way they lived their lives in the society they were born and raised in. Paul wrote in Romans 2:11-15; Romans 2:11, For there is no respect of persons with God. 12, For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13, For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14, For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15, Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) V. 16, in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
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