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  1. Hi preciouspearl. I understand. Take care sis. We will all be praying for you.
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  2. Modest attire is a requirement. Especially for Christian leaders. How do we motivate others to this specification?
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  3. I was a little hesitant when coming up with this posting for this idea All my life imagine and Wonder location where's the Center of Heaven is located Very well-known the answers are not in the Bible Not to the level of technology we have now Solar systems galaxies and now even black holes have proven with the Hubble Telescope without going into the classic science vs religion debate Let's imagine even makeup stuff This is just mere speculation Even get to know other people's opinions no matter how far-fetched they may sound Even the third dimension anyways Just for fun any opinions?
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  4. So the pharisees of Jesus day would say. In contrast Jesus replied when one called him good. "There is no one good but God."
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  5. The apostle Paul addressed the topic in his epistle.. For a Christian adult comparative to the apostle Paul + the apostle John .. to decide to denounce and curse God .. is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. It's unpardonable because they have spurned the very means that saved them, and spurned a place for repentance. Those who don't know God and sell themselves to the devil is comparative to being a sinner. It is pardonable because they are blinded by the god of this world. To them the light of salvation shines, there is a place for repentance. Those who don't know God and take the mark of the beast are comparative to a sinner that is literally enslaving themselves to the antichrist - the devil incarnate. That could be unbreakable as far as them wanting to get free. So pardon is not wanted by them. They cannot have spurned what they don't know of. So imo it's not a blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.
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  6. What kind of question is that. Pygmies are humans so they wouldn't have a separate origin. They descended from one of noahs sons.
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  7. There is no lack concerning the Bible which is the inspired Word of God, that we would need the "other things".
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  8. I agree, don't get me wrong, I like to celebrate Jesus birthday, but I hate what Christmas has become. I have been arguing family aginsed exchanging gifts for years; this is the first year it is not happening except among the children. I like to give gifts, but I don't agree with exchanging gifts... the idea of giving with the expectation of receiving from another person with the same price that I spent just feels wrong. I would rather put that money towards a gift basket - and give it to a family who can't afford it. That is truly giving Jesus His birthday gift. "for whatever you have done to the least of these, you have done unto Me"!
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  9. 'That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, ..neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, .... as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: .. for that day shall not come, .... except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, .. the son of perdition; .... who opposeth and exalteth himself ...... above all that is called God, ........ or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, .. shewing himself that he is God.' (2 Thess. 2-4) Hello @Advocate, I have always thought 'apostasia', in this context, meant what it says, 'a falling away': a falling away from the faith, or a forsaking. 'That day' being 'the day of the Lord'. The words of Luke 18:8 come to mind:- 'When the Son of Man cometh will He find faith on the earth? The great apostasy is the subject of many prophecies, and must precede the day of the Lord. In Christ Jesus Chris
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  10. Yes they do. But depart from what? Pretrib says it must be a departure from one place to another. There are other 'departures', why cling to that one? The word that appears in all four of the texts cited above is 'apostasy'. That has not changed. And it is a departure, from a previously held belief. If you were to fully examine the term and it's usage throughout the entire text of the NT you'd see there is no difference in the concept. Pretrib has created this false dichotomy. Provide the link between, "the harpazo (rapture) he wrote of in 1 Thess 4:17 " and " the departure", by which I assume you mean 2 Thess 2:3. I don't think there is a leg to stand on with the argument "Without harpazo, what's the comforting words?" In the pretrib camp this assumes an early exit by way of an invisible coming of some entity of whom I know not. This is simple emotional pleading. A scary time is coming and we want nothing to do with it, so an argument plays on that fear instead of sticking with fact. What you are saying is there is no comfort if there is no pretrib 'rapture'. Pretrib must do this as there is no proof any 'rapture' comes before the 70th week, nor that one even exists, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PROVE TIMING! In light of this pretrib resorts to logically fallacious arguments. This is your take when there are other possibilities. You are making an assumption here and it is not all that impressive. We cannot imagine any scenario from a future time described as "never was nor ever shall be". Even if that quote only refers to a specific time period exclusive of my premise, the lead up to this time will be just as unprecedented. A possible scenario: A living person is killed and brought back to life and like a Marvel superhero displays god-like power, along with force of will and determined agenda. People could and would flock en masse to this person. A 'departure from the faith' could manifest in this case, and we would notice. Shown? You said something. That's an opinion, not proof. The departure is a singular event? Well of course it is. That does not mean this singular event must occur in a particular manner. Pretrib demands it must happen in a single moment in time, quicker than the blink of the eye. Simple bias. Let's look at other possibilities. THE war. There were two majors, WWl and WWll. No doubt referring to a single event, war, which lasted for years. Any war could be referred to in this way. THE war is coming. Definite article, single event, long duration. THE departure 'from the faith' could be, and is, the same concept. A single event with duration of time. I mean, pretrib has no proof of timing for their 'rapture', either when or length, and is just grasping at straws. Just plain ignoring the concept? Revolt, defection, divorce, etc., all with the idea of removing oneself from a condition, yet pretrib must muddy the waters by inserting "leaving from one place to another" as a definition when the context refutes such ideas. Yes and no. It's a departure but not physically. Behold the contrast to the concept of depart in the NT: Strong's Greek: 3332. μεταίρω (metairó) -- to remove ... Strong's Greek: 549. ἄπειμι (apeimi) -- to go away, depart Strong's Greek: 360. ἀναλύω (analuó) -- to unloose for ... Strong's Greek: 630. ἀπολύω (apoluó) -- to set free ... Strong's Greek: 1826. ἔξειμι (exeimi) -- to go forth Strong's Greek: 525. ἀπαλλάσσω (apallassó) -- to remove ... Strong's Greek: 402. ἀναχωρέω (anachóreó) -- to go back ... Strong's Greek: 863. ἀφίημι (aphiémi) -- to send away ... Strong's Greek: 1564. ἐκεῖθεν (ekeithen) -- from there Strong's Greek: 4198. πορεύομαι (poreuomai) -- to go Strong's Greek: 868. ἀφίστημι (aphistémi) -- to lead ... Strong's Greek: 5217. ὑπάγω (hupagó) -- to lead or bring ... Strong's Greek: 5563. χωρίζω (chórizó) -- to separate ... Strong's Greek: 565. ἀπέρχομαι (aperchomai) -- to go ... Strong's Greek: 3855. παράγω (paragó) -- to lead by, to ... Strong's Greek: 863. ἀφίημι (aphiémi) -- to send away ... Strong's Greek: 1607. ἐκπορεύομαι (ekporeuomai) -- to ... Strong's Greek: 1544. ἐκβάλλω (ekballo) -- I throw, cast ... Since these terms actually mean to "leave from one place and go to another", and none of them appear in 2 Thess 2:3, how can 2 Thess 2:3 mean physical departure? And if that is what Paul meant, why did he not use one of the many terms that carry the concept of 'leaving from one place to go to another"? A popular sentiment ignoring 2000 years of history. Neither the bride nor the Holy Spirit are 'restraining evil". I'm betting close to a billion people have died in all the wars since the first century. Just on known stats it's over 400 million. Lenin's purges? Mao's? Pol Pot? Jim Jones? The list goes on and on. Bang up job restraining evil. Better not to generalize in such fashion. In any case it's wrong. Paul is saying the return of our Lord and the gathering are being held back by the revealing of the beast and the defection away from our Father to the beast. I have more on this if necessary. Is that so? Care to post evidence pertaining to the part of speech? All I find is apostasia is used as both noun and verb depending on context. In 2 Thess 2:3 it's a noun because the revolt is an event, like the French Revolution was an event. But again, aphistemi is NOT the word that appears in 2 Thess 2:3. Even if it was it's still not a departure from one place to another, it's a departure like a defection.
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  11. It's about essence 'ye must be born again'... when presented with God's Word the sinner is brought in line with the fact he/she is not of God and is in fact dead to the things of God... and that God 'IS' and The Who of Him stands before them as Rightful Judge. In this awful void of darkness the sinner realizes there is nothing in and of themselves to save them...In this place the heart can hear the knock of God upon it and repentance is the opening of that door and non-repentance is keeping it closed... that simple. Preaching of works to maintain a salvation not of works makes no sense for The Scriptures say 2 Cor 7:10 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. KJV How then can there be only one repentance to salvation? Only if The Essence of salvation is within by new birth and kept by The Hand of God Himself... and repentance afterward is keeping of relationship with nothing in between new birth and Holy Spirit Eph 4:30-32 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. KJV
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  12. While I don't recommend the show, there are a few people on the show that are legitimate. Problem is in how to separate the real from the crazy...
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  13. To which dictionaries are you referring? The Greek dictionary in Strong's: Strong's Concordance apostasia: defection, revolt Definition: defection, revolt Usage: defection, apostasy, revolt. Greek to English translators show apostasia = apostasy Merriam Webster: Apostasy 1: an act of refusing to continue to follow, obey, or recognize a religious faith 2: abandonment of a previous loyalty : DEFECTION Dictionary.com Apostasy a total desertion of or departure from one's religion, principles, party, cause, etc. Thefreedictionary.com Apostasy "Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause." American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. "Abandonment of one's religious faith, party, a cause, etc" Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © Harper Collins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014 "Renunciation or abandonment of one's religious faith or of an object of one's previous loyalty." Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved. "Abandonment or renunciation of one's religion or morals." Farlex Trivia Dictionary. © 2012 Farlex, Inc. All rights reserved. "Relinquishing of a religious belief." -Ologies & -Isms. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved. Check out the citations at Thefreedictionary.com, impressive group. So we have the pantheon of wordmasters defining apostasy as "renouncing religious belief", not "leaving form one place to go to another". Even "aphistemi", the term on which pretrib loves to rely when defining the correct term in 2 Thess 2:3, is defined: aphistémi: to lead away, to depart from Definition: to lead away, to depart from Usage: I make to stand away, draw away, repel, take up a position away from, withdraw from, leave, abstain from. You'll grasp at 'to depart from' here but as you can see any departing is an individual act akin to divorce. Finish the study and check the lexicon to see the usage of this term by the authors. The preponderance of evidence in that usage reveals the truth. I'll just cite that usage for your consideration: Thayer's Greek Lexicon STRONGS NT 868: ἀφίστημι Aphistemi 1. to make stand off, cause to withdraw, to remove; tropically, to excite to revolt: Acts 5:37 and in Greek writings from Herodotus 1, 76 down). 2. to stand off, stand aloof, in various senses (as in Greek writings) according to the context: ἀπό with the genitive of person to go away, depart, from anyone, Luke 13:27 (from Psalm 6:9; cf. Matthew 7:23ἀποχωρεῖτε ἀπ' ἐμοῦ); Acts 12:10; Acts 19:9; 3. to desert, withdraw from, one, Acts 15:38; to cease to vex one, Luke 4:13; Acts 5:38; Acts 22:29; 2 Corinthians 12:8; 4. to fall away, become faithless, ἀπό Θεοῦ, Hebrews 3:12; 5. to shun, flee from, ἀπό τῆςἀδικίας, 2 Timothy 2:19. Middle, 6. to withdraw oneself from: absolutely, to fall away,Luke 8:13; (τῆς πίστεως, 1 Timothy 4:1, cf. Winers Grammar, 427, 428 (398)); 7. to keep oneself away from, absent oneself from, Luke 2:37 (οὐκ ἀφίστατο ἀπό (T Tr WH omit ἀπό) τοῦ ἱεροῦ, she was in the temple every day); from anyone's society or fellowship, 1 Timothy 6:5 Rec. It's a departing alright, departing from one's beliefs, not from earth to heaven or the clouds or the sky. And I don't agree to disagree. I want all my brothers and sisters to hear the truth in our Lord and come to great knowledge and deep understanding; to trust and rely on our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, to keep us safe even as we all cling to His many wonderful promises. War is coming, best to carry the banner of the King of kings and stand behind His shield.
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  14. Praise God! This song is near and dear to me. Thanks for posting this.
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  15. Luke 13: KJV 1 "There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilæans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. {2} And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilæans were sinners above all the Galilæans, because they suffered such things? {3} I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. {4} Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? {5} I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
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  16. Matthew 6:13 - "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil; For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Amen." A temptation can be a difficult situation or a pressure. Contrary to popular belief, God is not the source of our temptations. James 1:13 - "Let no one say when he is tempted, 'I am tempted by God'; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone." When we are under pressure, it is important to realize that God is not trying to entrap us. Satan is called the tempter (Matthew 4:3, 1 Thessalonians 3:5). Then why did Jesus instruct us to pray that the Father would not lead us into temptation? This was simply a request for guidance so that we could be delivered from evil. Another way of putting it: When we are presented with temptation -- Lord, please furnish us with guidance to be led away from it. Jesus himself was tempted by Satan (Matthew 4, Luke 4). He trusted God fully for provision, protection, and purpose. The Father would no more lead us into temptation than He would withhold our daily bread. The statements, "give us our daily bread" and "lead us not into temptation" are simply requests for what has already been provided for us. This part of the prayer serves as a reminder to us of God's promised protection (Psalm 91) and gives us an occasion to release our faith and appropriate what has already been provided. PERIPHERAL SCRIPTURES No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it. (1 Corinthians 15:57) For He will give His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways. (Psalm 91:11 Affirmation: I always receive from God because I have faith and do not doubt. ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY http://afministry.ning.com/
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  17. It goes back father than that . ALL WE NEED LEARN IS THE BIBLE . LEARN JESUS , learn the apostles . THEN TEST WHAT ANY OTHER CREATURE < SPIRIT < MAN OR BEAST SAYS against THE BIBLE . For even many in the reformation had error , OH YES . TO LEARN JESUS , ALL WE NEED IS THE HOLY SPIRIT and THE ALREADY FORMED BIBLE . ORIGINAL BIBLE . FOR even some of those early writers , HAD A FEW ERRORS TOO . We don't need this big end time UNITY MOVE . WE don't need the desert wisdom move hoaxing as THE SPIRIT . WE NEED JESUS and ONE BOOK . THE BIBLE . YES the BIBLE . OH YES , THE BIBLE . AND again THE BIBLE . and one more time for good measure ONLY THE BIBLE .
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  18. 'When Esau saw that Isaac had blessed Jacob, .. and sent him away to Padanaram, .... to take him a wife from thence; ...... and that as he blessed him he gave him a charge, ........ saying," Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan"; .......... And that Jacob obeyed his father and his mother, ............ and was gone to Padanaram; And Esau seeing that the daughters of Canaan pleased not Isaac his father; .. Then went Esau unto Ishmael, .... and took unto the wives which he had ...... Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael Abraham's son, ........ the sister of Nebajoth, to be his wife.' (Genesis 28:6-9) Praise God! - (Romans 9:10-16)
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  19. 'And Isaac called Jacob, .. and blessed him, .... and charged him, ...... and said unto him, "Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan. .. Arise, go to Padanaram, .... to the house of Bethuel thy mother's father; ...... and take thee a wife from thence ........ of the daughters of Laban thy mother's brother. And God Almighty bless thee, .. and make thee fruitful, .... and multiply thee, ...... that thou mayest be a multitude of people; ........ And give thee the blessing of Abraham, .......... to thee, ............ and to thy seed with thee; .............. that thou mayest inherit the land ................ wherein thou art a stranger, .................. which God gave unto Abraham. And Isaac sent away Jacob: ' .. and he went to Padanaram unto Laban, .... son of Bethuel the Syrian, ...... the brother of Rebekah, ........ Jacob's and Esau's mother.' (Genesis 28:1-5) Praise God! 'In Isaac shall thy seed be called' (Gen.21:12)
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  20. 'And Rebekah said to Isaac, .. "I am weary of my life .... because of the daughters of Heth: ...... if Jacob take a wife of the daughters of Heth, ........ such as these which are of the daughters of the land, .......... what good shall my life do me?' (Gen 27:46) Praise God!
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  22. 'And these words of Esau her elder son were told to Rebekah: and she sent and called Jacob her younger son, and said unto him, .. "Behold, thy brother Esau, .... as touching thee, ...... doth comfort himself, ........ purposing to kill thee. Now therefore, my son, obey my voice; and arise, .. flee thou to Laban my brother to Haran; .... And tarry with him a few days, until thy brother's fury turn away; ...... Until thy brother's anger turn away from thee, ........ and he forget that which thou hast done to him: then I will send, and fetch thee from thence: why should I be deprived also of you both in one day? (Gen 27:42-45) Praise God! For His superintendence and preservation of His seed.
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  23. 'And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, "The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob."' (Gen 27:41) 'And these words of Esau her elder son were told to Rebekah: ... ' (Gen 27:42a) (Note: It must have been told her by God, for Esau said these things, 'in his heart', so only God knew.) Praise God!
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  24. This is quite amazing, what a smart horse. Paradise, California was totally burned up by the current wildfires and many died and are missing in Northern California. We also have devastating wildfires in Southern California where I live. https://youtu.be/S95qtIZkumA
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  25. Amazing story Deb! There's always a glimmer of hope, even in the darkest hour!
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  27. The presence of the Godhead is disclosed perfectly in the manifestation of the Son, and appeals to the human heart.
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  28. The purpose of the Godhead is declared particularly in the revelation of truth, which appeals to the human conscience.
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  29. The power of the Godhead is displayed primarily in the creation of the world, and appeals to the human reason.
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  30. Hi Abdicate, Not sure what you mean by...."Why can't it mean both?" If it's about "apostacy" in 2 Thes 2:3, it can't be both a "falling away from the truth" and a "rapture". That would make no sense. I do see a rapture of the righteous along with a resurrection of the dead in Christ happening after the great trib, between the 6th and 7th seal, just before the Lord's Wrath begins against all the ungodly of this world. I agree that there is a great departure from the faith happening right now. These "feel good mega-church preachers" are doing great harm to the body of Christ. And then there's the Pope, trying to meld the RCC with Islam and the Protestant Churches. "UNITY" he claims..... blah humbug! I'm shocked at what I'm seeing happening today. And it's only going to get worse.
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  31. You are trying t0 mix two gatherings into one. And two comings of our Lord into one. The truth is, He will come pretrib FOR His saints and with His saints after the 70th week. And after the 70th week He will gather His Hebrew elect back to Israel. Angels will accomplish this. God can certainly rapture all the babies at His pretrib coming, but then women can certainly get pregnant after that. There will be 3 1/2 years to the midpoint when they will have to flee. It may well be someone's imagination is exactly what will happen.
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  32. As a start to a response, here's a quick initial word study on the word "works" as used in this verse. ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, ὁ πιστεύων εἰς ἐμὲ τὰ ἔργα ἃ ἐγὼ ποιῶ κἀκεῖνος ποιήσει, καὶ μείζονα τούτων ποιήσει, ὅτι ἐγὼ πρὸς τὸν πατέρα πορεύομαι· (SBL GNT John 14:12 from biblegateway.com) The word works used here is τὸ ἔργον. From 3rd Edition BDAG (the Bauer-Danker Greek Lexicon), the summary of this word's usage is as follows. That which displays itself in activity of any kind ("deed" or "action"). in contrast to rest (e.g. in word and deed) manifestation or practical proof deed or accomplishment (of God, or Jesus, or humans) That which one does as a regular activity ("work", "occupation", "task") That which is brought into being by work ("product", "undertaking", "work") Something having to do with something under discussion ("thing", "matter") Roughly speaking, it is a fairly generic word used to describe actions that people or God take (whether routine or extraordinary or miraculous) and the results of those actions. It can be used of both positive and negative things. It occurs 169 times in the UBS4 version of the GNT. Here are the occurrences in the Gospel of John. 3:19-21, 4:34, 5:20, 5:36, 6:28-29, 7:3, 7:7, 7:21, 8:39, 8:41, 9:3-4, 10:25, 10:32-33, 10:37-38, 14:10-12, 15:24, 17:4. In addition, I John 3:8,12,18; II John 1:11; III John 1:10; and Rev 2:2,5,6,19,22,23,26; 3: 1,2,8,15 (to round out the Johannine books). Here are some examples (with English translations chosen to highlight the Greek word): but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. John 3:19 NIV But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God. John 3:21 NKJV. But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me. John 5:36 NKJV Jesus answered and said to them, “I did one work, and you all marvel. John 7:21 NKJV Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. John 8:39 NKJV Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” John 10:33 For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. I John 3:8 From this quick study, the general sense I have of this word is that it refers to anything and everything that someone might do and that it reflects their character and motivations. It seems to include both mundane everyday activities and actions to typical ministry activities as well as the out of the ordinary and the miraculous.
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  33. I know how to read. Do you know how to study? One will never attain Truth in English because; English is the best double talking lawyer language that there is on the planet; that can & does cause reasonable Doubt in anything & everything, including Truth. Its Satans language to fleece the sheep lol If Our Father Love desired His Words to be delivered in English, He would havr sent them in English.period Bibles come in ALL Languages : )
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  34. Yes, if one doesnt recognize the True Heritage of Everybodies inner- being Before this flesh realm; 0% Prejudism/Racism, then its off to grade 2 for you too : ( ThThe Lord's Day of Teaching & Reckoning in the Spirit, eeeek " Strive to be a Firstfruit" no part in the second death, Thanks be to Messiah/Christ : ) Rock On ✨
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  35. But the blood shed on the cross in part did away with the Levitical Preisthood & corporeal punishment and created a New way to contact Our Father Love and because the work was Finished, brought it to individual accountability; Its not just believe in the Title Jesus the Christ/ Yashua the Messiah, But rather believe in the richness of that Hertitage that that Title represents; certainly mind blowing : )
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