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Hi LL, That is why Jesus referred to His meeting us in the air as a thief in he night.....silent. Not sure where you found a scripture that says that Jesus referred to His meeting us in the air as a thief in the night....silent. It will be anything but silent. 1 Thes 4:16: 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [a]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. His voice will command all those in the grave to rise. (the righteous) His voice will reverberate through the whole universe. Then the blast of a trumpet. Here are the scriptures that do refer to Him coming "like a thief": Revelation 16:15 English Standard Version (ESV) 15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”) Matthew 24:43 English Standard Version (ESV) 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 English Standard Version (ESV) 2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 1 Thessalonians 5:4 English Standard Version (ESV) 4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief. 2 Peter 3:10 English Standard Version (ESV) 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies[a] will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.[b] Now look at 1 Thes 5:1-4: 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 English Standard Version (ESV) The Day of the Lord 5 Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers,[a] you have no need to have anything written to you. 2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief." It is not the believers that will be in darkness, but the unbelievers. Paul tells us that we are not in darkness for that day to surprise us like a thief. The "Day of the Lord" will come "like a thief in the night" to the unbelievers only. The Day of the Lord, the Day of God's wrath upon all the unbelievers and sinners, will happen after the celestial/terrestrial disturbances (Joel 2:30-31) after the resurrection and rapture of all the saints. The Great Tribulation, the celestial/terrestrial signs, the resurrection/rapture, the Day (year) of the Lord. In that order. Isaiah tells us in Isaiah vs 34:8, 61:2, and 63:4......that the Day of the Lord will last approx 1 year. ""For the day of vengeance (wrath) was in my heart, and My year of redemption has come" "To proclaim the favorable year of the Lord, and the Day of vengeance (wrath) of our God" "For the Lord has a Day of vengeance (wrath), a year of recompense for the cause of Zion" I don't see anywhere in all of scripture that says the Day of the Lord is 7 years long. (pre-trib speculation). The only way to come up with this is to equate the entire 70th week of Daniel as the Day of the Lord. (which pre-trib does) There is no 7 year Great Tribulation. Not to be found!

I read the hiding place a few times at least. I meant a man who knew her from Holland. I think he worked with her. Her family was great too. Her Father a man of faith and hers sisters all walk wi T h God.

Jesus Loved and boy did they hate him, I do not think we have seen anything yet I just hope when it really gets bad we can still love one another.

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That is really taking a lot of theologic license, which is outside your pay grade. Who set you up as the almighty standard of truth in these matters? The only reasonable assertion regarding "doctrine of demons" is that which rejects the Messiah and core doctrines that surround the Messiah, like his Sonship in relation to the Father, His being coequal in the Godhead with the Father and the Holy Spirit, His being born of a virgin of the Tribe of Judah as promised, His death, burial, and resurrection as the atonement of man, etc. These topics regarding the end times are not in the same category and using terms like "doctrines of demons" has the only purpose of shutting down meaningful dialogue and marginalizing the participants. I am comfortable in saying this.... it is sin against the brethren. Some of these end times ideas may be in error, but that doesn't mean the concept is doctrinally evil in nature or the individuals who espouse them are acting out of evil malice trying to discredit the truth. And anyone on either side of the issue using the similar tactics as political attacks in the secular world is acting just like those in the world would act. And we are commanded to be of a separate mind than those in the world. But it is to be expected in this day. If one happens to disagree with someone they are either a racist, homophobe, bigot, etc. So now we have come to the point where anyone who might theologically disagree on a nonessential topic in terms of justification and sanctification, and through their own study has arrived at a different conclusion regarding the end times is now espousing doctrine of demons. Well, seems that we have a long way to go. We seem to be a long way from "they will know us by our love for one another".

This is the same thought I had.

that's part of the reason that people accept abortion...… because we are not telling people what it is really all about.... people need to be forced to understand the barbarism of what really happens.

I did not really want to post this but it hurts my heart so much that I had to we must do all we can to show America-World this is against human nature and God. I do not know if this will help but I cannot sit by and say nothing and I cannot sit by without including it in my prayer daily. I can see the babies being ripped apart inside the mom trying to cry with mouths wide open but not having the ability to make a noise. After that I am speechless!

I don't really like "What If" questions, but abortion breaks my heart, so why not say something. I believe one of His first words would be "You shall not murder." (Exodus 20:13). Then He may remind them of how they used to pass their children through fire and how it was an abomination, as when the Sepharvites burned their children to their false gods (2 Kings 17:31) and how King Ahaz worshiped Baals by burning his children in fire (2 Chronicles 28:1-4). This, to me, would be where He may start.

Shalom brothers and sisters, An important moment in a Christian's life is the baptism of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit). Yet, everyone's moment seems to be different remarkably. I was wondering if we could all share how it happened for us. For me, it didn't happen after my water baptism. I searched for it for years and even after prayer from others, I felt no different. Then, one day whilst praying, I felt a cool wave over me, not unlike breath but also not unlike liquid. It felt like it was just resting upon me gently. From that moment, I stopped asking for the Spirit. Like it would be silly because I would be asking for something I already have. And, from that moment, I felt a spring of joy rise deep within me, still present today. Sometimes it quietly bubbles and at other times it feels like I could burst. And with it came a beautiful, untouchable shalom. Thank you Father! Thank you Lord! So, how did it happen for you? Love & Shalom

In a generation where majority exalts vice; freely accommodates worldliness, resents preaching that requires a transformation in the image of Christ but cherishes make-me-feel-good motivational messages, only those who are intentional, earnest, aggressive, constant and tireless in their pursuit of practical holiness will stand. Holiness is an imperative for the 21st century church if its light will shine in the midst of the present spiritual darkness. Any one wants to please the Lord and cherishes the thought of being with Him must take the need for holiness seriously. By the way, the Bible is categorical about it. Without holiness no one (Christian, pastor, bishop, apostle, prophet, etc.) shall see God. There are no two ways about it. Prayers. Father, thank you that through Christ, I am made holy. As a result, as your grace empowers me, I am determined to pursue and manifest Christ’s holiness in me wherever I am.

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

https://ivarfjeld.com/2011/05/24/red-cross-changed-its-symbol-to-match-one-world-religion/ there is no longer any International Red Cross Society.

The interesting thing is that these events occur exactly 3.5 years before the end. There are dark secrets, secrets of lawlessness. There is lawlessness currently on the earth, and yet the full truth of these secrets is not revealed to us (the church). Yet something will be REMOVED, then all these dark secrets will be revealed, the secret lawlesness will be exposed for what it is: And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed It just so happens, that at the SAME moment that the antichrist is revealed for 42 months of rule (Rev 13), Satan is cast out from heaven in a great battle caused by the victory of the church as per Rev 12. Satan's wrath on earth is for the same time period, 1260 days (42 months). So in summary, the withholder is REMOVED/TAKEN OUT THE WAY, at the SAME TIME as Satan is REMOVED/TAKEN OUT OF HEAVEN through the victory of the church. This is when the SECRET (of lawlessness) is no longer held back because the antichrist is REVEALED, he is no longer a secret.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. During the earthly ministry of Jesus, obedience to the law was required of Israel; at this time, he offered the prophetic kingdom on earth to a repentant Israel. Justification unto eternal life did not come by the law however, faith in Christ did; however, obedience to the law was required to enter the kingdom, and receive postions of authority to reign with Christ; righteousness is required to enter the kingdom. In the kingdom, adherence to the law will still be commanded. Israel, in the kingdom, will still be required to obey, and teach obediance to, the law; those who do not obey the law, and teach otherwise, will be called the least. .

Tozer books are exhorting, to me anyway. I had always been excited to read the scriptures after reading a Tozer article. Many of his books are articles he wrote as an editor of a Christian publication so short chapters and a point being made in less fluffy writing can be expected. I had liked his book, "The Counsellor". Read it years ago, it's about the Holy Spirit. Thanks for posting, I have a trunk of books I know a few Tozer books rest in. I need to dig them out.

I find biographical books difficult because they so rarely show the down side of life, Corries does try to do that. one biography I'd recommend is 'Missing believed Killed by Margret Hayes. You can get it from dayone publications. Suggestion alternate these sort of books with more challenging theological books and do take what ever you're reading in to work to read at lunch time, as it can generate conversations.

Hi, Me neither. Seems such a profession will be shown by the acclamation of suppport for abortion and infanticide alone as being a false profession. Personally I don't see how one may be both born again of God the Holy Spirit's indwelling and also still retain the strong delusion that murder is okay, remaining unrepentant from sin against God. For such a person will have to be able to proclaim Christ Jesus as Lord God and personal savior while also proclaiming need/desire for the saving of the physical flesh of the mother at the expense of the life of the unborn as a health issue and or a matter of personal choice and /or convenience. Seems the enlightenment by the Holy Spirit's indwelling will shock and horrify any person ever having been so deluded as to see abortion as anything but murder. I suppose too that the horror of the reality of the depth of total depravity of each person individually is also reveal of the Glory that is God who overcomes it by His grace and mercy alone. Does me anyway, God's making of even me to be seen by Him as one washed white as snow in His sight, all by His mercy and grace upon me is amazing grace. That I would not be repulsed by abortion as an as yet unknowing of my own salvation individual human is testimony of the severe plight I personally faced. Such depravity is hard for me to grasp now. It is difficult to reach back into the way I once viewed life and death for I never understood eternal life until the Holy Spirit turned me about to my own repentance from my own sin against God. While I do in humility fear the old man of delusion arising within, I do not understand how he ever prevailed. I also am secure in Christ Jesus and rely on the Holy Spirit to prevent my old self from ever prevailing again.

Shalom Jacquis, Difficult situation. The heart can lead us in all kinds of tricky situations... I'd say tread very carefully here sister. Yes, in this day and age, it's very difficult to find someone you connect with and also have the same beliefs with. But your post almost feels like your subconscious flagging up the alert to yourself. Try this experiment. Forget this man for a moment and read your post as if someone else posted it. What would you advise? Don't ever give anything to man because of emotional manipulation or pressure. It's surely not going to then turn into a magically happy outcome. You have to feel right and at peace about it or regret will likely follow (at the least) and he would then be aware that he can pressure you when needs be. I realise you must be pretty hurt about this and thinking about it a lot but be of good cheer sister. To me, it sounds like you have saved yourself from years of forthcoming confusion and heartache, if that has been the starting foundation. Sometimes, with relationships, you can be tempted with negative worldly options intentionally before the right one crosses your path. But when the right one comes along, you will know, and a sign will be that you won't need help here. I hope that makes some kind of sense! Love & Shalom

You sure about that ?............(For God so loved the world............, and look what happened to Him) 1 John, 3, 13 "Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you." John 15, 18-21 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

Thanks George for posting this! It is good information! At the same time, it makes me grieve deeply in my spirit for our wickedness! :,(

What a blessing it is to have found someone to talk with. I and alone on our farm much of the week with no one to talk to about this. I know my husband would listen but I don't want to bend his ear about this because it would sour his attitude about church. He loves this tiny church and feels like he makes a difference doing what he does in the church. He comes from a huge church that worked it's workers to death "every time the doors opened" and likes a more intimate setting. I finally don't have to drag him to go to church. He wants to go. Today was an eye opening experience for this little "Martha wanna be". God has shown me through many different ways today that I have not given up control over my life and all it encompasses. I am still bullied by the idea of performancism and perfectionism and to be all things (in my strange way of thinking) to all people. If things aren't like I think they should be, then there must be something wrong. Pray for me friends that I would live biblically minded to say Christ is sufficient and “Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But the context and the relation to the Law is how one should view what Yeshua said. The context is the Law regarding those who are guilty of murder or manslaughter. If one was found guilty of murder, they were condemned to death. If they were guilt of manslaughter, there was a recourse for them. Yeshua by claiming from the cross that "they know not what they do" was stating to the Father that all of us who are guilty fo the death of Yeshua are guilty of manslaughter, not murder. If, under the Law, a person was found guilty of manslaughter, unintentional murder, they could flee to one of the 48 cities of refuge and remain there protected from the avenger of blood from the victim's family. They had to remain there until the death of the High Priest and then they could go free without fear of retribution. We, guilty of manslaughter of Yeshua, are to flee to our city of refuge, which is the Messiah. We are sheltered there and our High Priest, the Messiah, never dies again. We are then protected from the avenger of blood, the Father for eternity. I am not convinced that the same thing applies to this topic of Abortion. No one is "forgiven" unless they seek the shelter of Yeshua. So while Yeshua could possibly say "forgive them", it really means nothing if they don't seek the refuge of Yeshua. And I am not convinced that most who participate in Abortion are doing so under the guise of manslaughter, or unintended death. It seems to be more related to murder.

Jesus is here in us as his bride just wanted to see who would recognize this, I think your wrong about T.V. even the bible says the 2 witnesses will be heard and seen worldwide wonder how that will happen.

Hi OC, Hey, you don't know what my pay grade is. (humor) I was merely quoting an article. And I whole heartily agree with the last point: "John Mac Arthur's position (supported by other Pretribulationists such as Phil Johnson, Jimmy De Young, and Brannon House) that it will be possible to take the Mark of the Beast, worship the Antichrist and yet still be saved,—are doctrines of demons that are dangerous and false. If that's not a "doctrine of demons" then I don't know what is. Jesus strongly warns us about taking this mark, that anyone who does so will damn their souls for eternity. This is an extremely dangerous/damning teaching. John Mac Arthur and his band of merry men are False Teachers of the worst kind. Whatever a person believes about the rapture, whether pre, mid, post, prewrath......these are not salvation issues.

This was another sad day in history, don't forget that the Bible warns of those days,they have to happen before Jesus is coming back, everything is eccellerating , look around and see what all ready happened this year,we have to really be aware of the days we live in,people will believe the lie and will be deceived by the spirit of this world,born again Christians might soon face persecution,they will be a hindrance for the NWO. Maranatha,Jesus come!

Hi LJ, welcome to Worthy, I want to add to what Who Me said, in that it is unfortunately, whether it be in the church or any body of people. It is the minority, not the majority, who put "their hand to the plough," You see, most folk want to be served, and are quite happy to let others do the work, and I find that quite sad really, especially in the body of Christ. Especially when Jesus came in "the form of a servant" and said 'I came to serve, not to be served." As Marilyn pointed out, it's not for us to try and "organise" but to "let go and let God have His way." He is a Master Organiser and has been doing that very thing before the beginning of time. As we know that at the end of time, "Jesus Will have the Last Say." Be blessed LJ, Jesus sees your heart, He knows and He will bring His purposes to pass, God bless.

Frienduff was kind enough to share this with me as well, and I thought it was something everyone should be made aware of. We all need to be watchful, paying close attention to what we are being fed, and for those with children what their children are being fed. Any church of any denomination that gets on board with this movement needs to be abandoned quickly, without hesitation. Alert and sober is the order of the times we live in, we all need to be prepared spiritually and mentally for the days ahead. God bless

Amen, Who me. Hi Ejected, I agree with Poster #Who me saying that we have gifts now and not tomorrow, which can also be seen in Mark 11:13. Waiting on God for a life time? for a calling? Why not join a church and ask them how you can help? This is at least my suggestion. I'm speaking from own experience: they always look for people to help. Regards, Thomas

I am so sorry that you interpreted what you read incorrectly. The Holy Spirit does not confuse anyone but enlightens. The Rapture is silent except to those left behind. Only those who are born again will hear the shout and trumpet. Jesus comes and meets us in the air... first the dead in Christ then those who are alive ( born again) will meet Him in the air. That is why Jesus referred to His meeting us in the air as a thief in he night.....silent. This starts the Tribulation because the Holy Spirit is removed from earth. This is not the Second coming. During the second coming His feet touch the earth on the Mount of Olives. There are only two comings one as an infant and the second as the Victor, the Lion of Judah, with angels and the saints following Him on white horses. This begins the Thousand year reign...millennium. The Holy Spirit is taken out from the earth because He is the Restrainer and those left behind during the following 7 years will have to revert to following the commandments to be found righteous. The Holy Spirit will not be here to indwell anyone. That is why there will be lawlessness. That is why it is better to be found His before theRapture. All before the Tribulation begins. ..a time like has not been seen before. That is why people will willingly accept the Mark of the Beast..

There was one time that God told me to stop praying for a person. I don't even remember who it was, but my prayers were answered a few months later. Sometimes I am led to to stop praying and start praising God for the answer. There are some subjects that I have greater compassion for the situations than others. It doesn't matter who it is, it has to do with what they are praying for. Often I pray that Gods will be done instead of praying as the people request.

No. No.

'If a man shall deliver unto his neighbour money or stuff to keep, .. and it be stolen out of the man's house; if the thief be found, let him pay double. If the thief be not found, .. then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges, .... to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour's goods. For all manner of trespass, .. whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, .... or for any manner of lost thing, which another challengeth to be his, ...... the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; ........ and whom the judges shall condemn, .......... he shall pay double unto his neighbour. If a man deliver unto his neighbour an ass, or an ox, .. or a sheep, or any beast, to keep; .... and it die, or be hurt, or driven away, ...... no man seeing it: ........ Then shall an oath of the LORD be between them both, .......... that he hath not put his hand unto his neighbour's goods; ............ and the owner of it shall accept thereof, .............. and he shall not make it good. And if it be stolen from him, .. he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof. .... If it be torn in pieces, then let him bring it for witness, ...... and he shall not make good that which was torn. And if a man borrow ought of his neighbour, and it be hurt, or die, .. the owner thereof being not with it, .... he shall surely make it good. ...... but if the owner thereof be with it, he shall not make it good: ........ if it be an hired thing, it came for his hire.' (Exodus 22:7-15) Praise God!

'If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; .. he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. If a thief be found breaking up, .. and be smitten that he die, .... there shall no blood be shed for him. If the sun be risen upon him, .. there shall be blood shed for him; .... for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, .. then he shall be sold for his theft. If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, .. whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; .... he shall restore double. If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, .. and shall put in his beast, .... and shall feed in another man's field; ...... of the best of his own field, ........ and of the best of his own vineyard, .......... shall he make restitution. If fire break out, and catch in thorns, .. so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, .... or the field, be consumed therewith; ...... he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.' (Exodus 22:1-6) Praise God!

I would pray for anyone and would not refuse a request to pray for someone.

Awesome! I was once a pianist in a local Pentacostal church. The minister there was always full of the Spirit and his sermons and messages included prophetic utterances, tongues, healings and more. Once, he looked directly at me in the sanctuary and asked if I had ever received the 'baptism of the Holy Spirit". I stepped forward and shook my head "No". He layed his hands on me, along with other members and they started praying. I did get very weak in my knees and started shaking, but it was not a scary ordeal..it was a refreshing, a recharging 'thing". I layed back, almost as if in slow motion and found myself layed out on the carpet, praying and crying. My verbal prayer, to me, sounded a bit 'foreign" or different than normal, but I did not shout out loud or dance or start uttering a loud salutation. All I knew was that I was at peace and God was dealing with me, one on one and getting some things straight in my spirit. Real peace prevailed over my mind and soon I sat up and walked back to my seat. It was as if GOD met me within my own realm and was coaxing, hugging and comforting me alone, although I was in a crowd. Other times, at the altar, I found myself dancing, singing, moving and swaying in rhythm to some sweet praise song. GOD meets me and has never given me more than I can handle or take in. Who knows, next time, I just may run all around the building as if it were on fire...all in His timing and all for His glory at that moment.

The thing is , WHEN JESUS comes back it wont be as no intercessor . FOLKS better repent asap or find themselves only under wrath on HIS day they will . I think folks forget that . Some think he is coming back with a cup of coffee n one hand and songs of cuymbia in the other . My pleading prayer is OH may they repent and come to Christ and they can be forgiven . Now as for the church . I say this . LET ALL WHO NAME THE NAME OF CHRIST depart from murder , well from all inquity and murder is inquity .

Matt 16:13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” 14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter obviously have been inspired by Almighty God Yahwe in heaven but He has not received the Holy Spirit yet, because Jesus told them to wait in Jerusalem for the Holy Spirit baptism. Acts 1:4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you hv acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God and have been baptized with water, it doesnt necessarily means you have already received the Holy Spirit. Example : Paul confers the gift of the Holy Spirit to the BELIEVERS of Christ after they have received water baptism. Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 5 On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and THEY SPOKE IN TONGUES and prophesied. Peter and John placed their hands to BELIEVERS WHO HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED so they may rcvd the Holy Spirit. 16 For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT BAPTIZE THEM THEY SPOKE IN TONGUE Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. BUT WHY DID GOD CHOOSE TO CONTROL THE TONGUE ? James 3:3 Behold, we put bits in the horses’ mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. 4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. 5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. HOW COULD WE SURVIVE OUR FAITH WITHOUT THE COMFORTER/ HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM ? John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. After about three months of praying and fasting then the Shepherd at church prayed for me and the Holy Spirit baptized me, i felt a kind of strong but unharm electric current inside my body and when i was slaughtered in the spirit and cried at the feet of Jesus my tongue moved by itself and i can utter unknown language.

Hi, Can.t just let this image and proverb go with just a thumbs up, have to repeat it. Have dragged and dropped it to my desk top praying for opportunity to further share of it. Thanks for the posting of it. Will use it for myself as a daily prayer page.

If Jesus were to come to earth and go on worldwide T.V. what would ..... Jesus wept...

I know that is a popular interpretation but the Word is nowhere that specific. I don't know who the restrainer is. The Holy Spirit is not the only viable candidate to fulfill that passage. I do not believe the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth when people are obviously making life or death decisions between the beast and God. I see no place in scripture that demand understanding the Body of Christ is removed either. I can't imagine Him taking us out just when the need for laborers fulfilling the Great Commission is greater than any time in human history.

You mean the ones I answered but you seemingly can't give a simple rebut to ? For starters, one thing I never do, unless it's the Armstrong teachings, is try to associate anyone with other peoples teachings, God teaches me, and I read many other people's work, some I agree with and some I find that I disagree with, but the Holy Spirit should be our guide in the end. Just because the 75 to 85 percent or vast majority of Christendom doesn't agree with your positions on the Rapture, doesn't make us all disciples of so and so, stop trying to peg everyone who disagrees with you brother, you are in the vast minority as per the Rapture beliefs, but I am not trying to pigeonhole you as being a follower of X, Y, or Z !! It is what it is. Pre trib is fact as per the Church as far as I am concerned. I can hear it, but I heard it long ago and read the bible and saw that the pre tribulation rapture was the only POV that jibed with the bible IMHO. I can hear anything, but when I point out FACTUAL REASONS/Scriptures why it can't be true and all I get is crickets, I take that as people are just too entrenched in positions to change, for whatever reason, what I never do is get entrenched in my thoughts so deep that I can't be moved. Now when the Holy Spirit shows me something, I then can not be moved, of course. We (Church) Return with Christ in Rev. 19, while the Beast is STILL ON EARTH !! We (Church) are seen in Rev. 4 and 5 before the Seals are opened and in Revelation 7 just before the Trumpets are blown. We are with Christ for 7 years in Heaven. Those who repent after the Rapture will indeed suffer tribulation, but not the Raptured Church. Now you can disagree with me, that is OK, but I use the Scriptures, and show why the Scriptures used against the pre trib position don't mesh. Whatever opinion you desire is A OK with me, but I am going to point out the Scripture that show the pre-trib position brother, it's my job as a preacher to do so. But it does line up with scriptures, the Pre trib is easy to see. You can't cite any scriptures about the pre trib, that I can't explain as per to why peoples belief therein is a miscalculation of said scriptures. Not one !! But Rev. 19 can't be explained by the post trib guys. Amongst many other passages. We see the Church in Rev. 4 and 5 also, and I have proven it many times. Well why would you cite the JW, I mean Satan has been deceiving for 200o years (and even before that of course), I decided to listen to Jesus almost 35 years ago. I prove everything I say with Scriptures brother. The Rapture is for the Church, thus it's basically not in the Old Testament, it can be vaguely seen in a few places. But we can understand what happens to Israel, and thus understand things as per what will happen to the Church. It is called Jacob's Troubles for a reason. As per the New Testament, only Paul, the Disciple of the Gentiles was given the Rapture understanding, and Paul tells us about it in the New Testament chapters, 1 Corinthians 15 and in 1 Thessalonians 4 amongst other places. Jesus gives it unto us in parables because it was only intended for Paul to conceptualize it to the masses, not the other Disciples per se. So we do see it in the 10 Virgins parable where 5 are shut out of the wedding and in Matthew 24:36-51 where one is taken and another is left and where Jesus' return for the Church is imminent, but his Second Coming WILL NOT BE IMMINENT, it will be an orderly event, as in Vials 1-6 which leads to the 7th Vial, that is a countdown. All of the Scriptures have to be used to gain any understandings. Jesus tells it to us in Matthew 24:36-51 but the post tribbers say it means something else. Then in 2 Thessalonians 2, we are specifically told that the Church must DEPART before the Man of Sin can come forth and BEFORE the Day of the Lord can come upon us. It has nothing to do with falling away from the Faith, the Subject is a Gathering together unto the Lord, BEFORE the Day of the Lord, which starts at the First Seal and runs to the 7th Vial. We see the Church in Heaven before the Seals are opened !! Rev. 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. The different views of who these 24 Elders are here below....................see the Blue. 1.) The 24 Elders are Angels...........................Well, we see humans called Elders but never have we seen Angels called elders. Also throughout the book of Revelation Elders and Angels are distinguished. Thirdly in Rev. 5:9 the Elders sing a Song of Redemption, so lets discount that viewpoint. 2.) The Elders are the Church AND Israel..........The problem with this is that Israel will not be Resurrected (Daniel 12:1-2) and rewarded until the Second Coming of Christ. 3.) The 24 Elders are the Church..........BINGO..........The reasons are many, I will list them below: The Rewards promised to the Seven Churches are given unto the 24 Elders in Rev. 4:4. * A Crown - ( Rev. 2:10, 3:11, 4:4 and 4:10 ) * A Throne - ( Rev. 3:21 and 4:4 ) * A White Robe - ( Rev. 3:4-5 and Rev. 4:4 ) In Pre-tribulationism: the Rapture occurs BEFORE the tribulation. So the above definition of pre-trib fits perfectly with the 24 Elders being the Church in Heaven doesn't it ? Before the Seals are opened !! This however wouldn't work in Post tribulation theory or with pre-wrath theory either !! As per the 24 Elders meaning ? or why 24 Elders !! Well this fits 1 Chronicles 24:7-19 where we are told there are 24 orders of priests. 1 Chronicles 24:7 Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah,..........18 The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah. 19 These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the Lord, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the Lord God of Israel had commanded him. Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. So as you see, the 24 Elders can be nothing but the Church in Heaven. They get the same EXACT REWARDS that the Church were promised and we are indeed kings and priests unto God the Father. So it's all there brother, I am not just guessing, I just don't take passages out of the contextual composition that they were given unto us in without TRYING THEM via all other verses/passages to see if they jibe. I am very good at Chess/Riddles, I guess that is why God called me unto Prophecy brother. God Bless

Hi RM, The churches "Mission" won't be completed UNTIL the return of Christ. That is why the church goes thru the tribulation...70th week. It will be the Churches greatest time of testimony. If they are raptured before the 70th week, then who will be left to testify? Certainly NOT the Jews. They won't accept Christ till the end of the tribulation. And it can't be the unchurched gentiles who are left. What do they know? "the New Covenant is the oldest Covenant in reality"..... Your rebuttal is anything but logical. You don't even address the issue. Respectfully,

The main thing that really makes people feel like turning around isn't hearing the truth, it isn't that you try so hard to convince them or make them read the word and go to church, but it is convincing when they see Christ working in your life to know he is real. They see a difference in your life than everyone else. People pay more attention to actions than words when it comes to being a real Christian.

God chooses who he will save. Only God can change someone's heart, we don't change our own. You just need to do what scripture tells you to, love them, tell them the truth and be the example more than try to convince them. A human will not be able to convince one to believe entirely, but God will convict their hearts and make them come to him. There is scripture about him choosing who he saves, as if we are destined to be saved. Ephesians 1:4-5 Paul says God “chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will.” A few verses later, in verse 11, Paul says, “In [Jesus] we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will.” Similarly, Paul writes in Romans 8:29-30 that “those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.”

A Child A child has wonder in his eyes Each day is a delight Discoveries waiting to be made He takes in each new sight His life is an adventure God's creations to explore Each day is as exciting As the one that went before He doesn't see the ugliness For which the nations fight He doesn't have a color code Of brown or black or white He trusts and does not worry As he basks in carefree play Oh, to be more like him And to look at life that way!

Isaiah 58 is a very relevant reference when seeking to understand what He expects from a fast. There is more so I recommend reading the whole chapter, the preceding verses outline the WRONG attitudes toward fasting which He will not respect. My own relationship to fasting changed when I noticed (had my attention DRAWN TO ) some time ago that Jesus seemed to EXPECT fasting to be a familiar part of His disciple's lives. In both of those verses Jesus said "when" you fast, not "if" you fast and when that was pointed out I just knew He was calling me to a fast. I suspect fasting is a neglected discipline, particularly in the modern western church. But, this is one of those things that is in scripture, but we're not given a precise commandment, a list of "fasting rules" to follow so IMO this falls into that category of I have a personal opinion you can take or leave. This is from my own experience and I can't prove it from the Bible. But, it *SEEMS* to me that a decision to fast lays hold of one of the most powerful "lusts of the flesh" and DEMANDS it submit to the will. It's an exercise in who is in control of my life...flesh or spirit? My soul WANTS to respond to that hunger and eat. With His empowerment I tell it NO! And that seems to be something He works with to break off other "bondage" to the flesh. We have to live with this fallen meat sack until we get our new bodies. It has lusts and desires that are always working against the Spirit in our lives. He seems to honor (and empower) a choice on our part to take that in hand and "discipline" it. My two cents.... With that said, I don't have a regular schedule or set time of fasting. I fast when I feel the Spirit prompting me to. I suspect for some it can become a "religious" thing...a legalistic flesh thing trying to "earn" righteousness. That won't impress Him at all I don't think.