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Hey Christine I need to go into a little preamble...but...exposure to Hebrews 6:1-3 and His explanation of it literally set the path for most of my study for many months after I was led into discovery of it. For the first time I saw in this an understanding that there are six very specific areas we have to master from the Word as a FOUNDATION....a solid place established in us on which He can build us into mature sonship. I was at a point where I'd already begun to notice that I was getting pretty well grounded in the Word in comparison to most Christians I met. I had come to a place where very few i met had more familiarity with the Word than I did. It probably hadn't quite passed into hubris and pride (the observation was accurate enough, the "standard" I was comparing to was totally off base) but i'm sure it was headed that way. I began to dare to think I'd entered into a measure of "maturity" in Him. And then He pulled this passage on me As I compared my own perception of my understanding to these six categories I realized there were still pretty gaping holes in my FOUNDATION. And into that realization He spoke this: "You've made a good start in getting your foundation secured, and good on you for that. But don't you DARE begin to believe you're mature yet. Your foundation still needs establishing." So, considerably humbled, I determined to examine each of these six areas again, and make securing my foundation a priority. My lack proved to be far more severe than my initial assessment indicated. But, long story short, one of the LEAST understood topics in focus proved to be "eternal judgement". Once I began to really dig into that and seek Him for revelation I quickly realized I knew next to nothing, and what little I thought I knew proved to be more founded on myth and tradition than the truth of the Word. In the course of studying 'eternal judgement' i came to understand it's a very rich, multi-layered topic and the Bible gives a lot of detail but it's not a subject that yields to "surface" reading. It yields understanding through study. In that process I ran across this: I think if you choose to study those three words out from Scripture, you'll likely discover they represent three levels of reward in heaven. I do believe they are separate and distinct from each other and represent a progression with the highest rewards in heaven reserved for those who meet heaven's qualifications for all three of those descriptions. There are at least two levels of "called". The first is to the whole world...the "call" to salvation in Jesus. But after that there is another, more specific call related to our personal lives and bounded by the plan of "good works" He appointed for each of us to walk in from before the foundation of the world. The "call" is there at the new birth but we are not considered "called" by heaven until we take up...take ownership of the call. Taking up, even recognizing our "call" requires a submission to His Lordship, He simply doesn't reveal much about it until He is not only Saviour, but also Lord of our lives. But, being called is not the same as being "chosen" to walk in the call. Acceptance of the call usually is the beginning of some very pointed training in how to walk in the call. When He is satisfied the training is sufficent, THEN He will mark His servant "chosen" for their particular call and will "release" them into full expression of their call. And being chosen is not the same as being found "faithful". When and how that is applied to His servants is up to Him but USUALLY it will require a season of time, marked by faithfulness..often in the face of severe testing...temptation. Those of His who parry the thrusts, dodge the darts and remain faithful to His choosing of them, are indeed precious in His sight. And will be rewarded for the suffering and testing they endured in order to remain faithful to Him

'Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:' (Ephesians 1:1) Hello again, I have read through each open-hearted entry, from the beginning, and thank you all for your contributions. To add or subtract, question or comment on any one of them, other than I have already done, would be an intrusion, for I feel that each one is a reflection of the walk with God that each one of us is engaged upon by His grace, in Christ Jesus. What a beloved Lord and Saviour we have, haven't we? How blessed we are to know Him, and to be the objects of His love and grace. My love to you all, in Him. Thank you for being a blessing to me by sharing as you have. Praise His Holy Name! In Christ Jesus Our risen and glorified Saviour, Lord and Head Chris

Shalom brothers and sisters, I have here a good witnessing tool (and also a great reminder for Christians) to explain: The World God The Bible Jesus Judgment Day The Next Life Is Torah for today? Please give it a read if you have the time to read a three-paged story. I know it blessed at least one person significantly. Meet Enid https://faithandtheword.com/book-a/idb/heart/roots/enid1/ Love & Shalom

Joni Eareckson Tada,a quadriplegic artist talks about her drawing of her father and the spiritual meaning behind it.

I agree with Willa that, on its own it would not explain the gospel. However, it could be used along with a presentation of the atonement of Jesus. The 'Romans Road to Salvation' has been a standard used by many to witness throughout the decades. http://c317808.r8.cf1.rackcdn.com/Romansroad.pdf I think this allegory was geared at those who take lightly the many scriptures about living holy and being prepared. We are to be reading the scriptures with pleasure and obeying them no matter what madness is going on around us (being single minded in this wicked world.) This is what the Well-Behaved Students did. The message I read in the allegory was one of faithfulness to He who went away and admonished us to be true to His Word till He comes back. I was looking at it in light of the parable of Jesus about 'being ready when your Lord returns... I realize we are reading servants as opposed to students in the allegory. But the principle is the same. The smiting of the fellowservants, for example makes me think of this part of the allegory: Bullying now became seriously violent and many students were being chased out of the School because of it. The Seniors classes became depraved "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 24:44-51) Those who would ever think I advocate salvation by works don't know me very well. One of my life verses is Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." However, faith without works is dead, as James 2:14-26 declares. Christians were not intended to remain idle once they are born again. For that is only the beginning of a lifetime of joy in serving Him. If you look at the allegory again you will see that the 'well behaved students' represent Christians who do these works BECAUSE they respect and love the Headmaster. Read of their joy at His return. The allegory supposes they were behaving obediently when He returned because He meant so much to them. Is that not true of Christians? Note how glad they were upon His return. The Well-Behaved Students were delighted to see him and were even cheering his name. The rest of the students were screaming wildly, frantically trying to smarten up their appearance and hide incriminating evidence. The others who didn't care about Him are the lost. It even clarifies that Enid did not BELIEVE in Him. She didn’t believe this Headmaster even existed and now she has to meet him? What would she say? The characters are explained as though the true believers were these who loved and obeyed the Headmaster...as all genuinely converted people would. Here is the summary. Note that ONLY the Well-Behaved students are defined as Christians: Hopefully the message of Enid’s story was clear but, just to be sure, here’s the explanation: The mixed boarding School is our world with each generation of Enid’s family representing a different period in Earth’s history. The Headmaster is God with his Guides and Rules being the Bible. The Teachers represent Christianity in general or Bible-based moral leaders in our society. When someone leaves the School grounds it means they died. The Senior Students are today’s current world powers and thought leaders. The Well-Behaved Students are Christians. The Assembly Hall represents Judgement Day. The Dark Figure is satan. The New Life is life after death and the Real World is the new world to come.

@Tzephanyahu Thank you for this. It was thought provoking. Powerful and convicting. Well worth the read.

@Not me @Jostler @SelahSong Thank you for your entries, I am just too tired to take anything in at the moment, but shall come back to them afresh in the morning. My thanks also, once again, to @BeauJangles and @In Him for their responses. Good night all. With love in Christ Jesus Chris

Making the Court 'And he made the court: on the south side southward the hangings of the court were of fine twined linen, an hundred cubits: Their pillars were twenty, and their brasen sockets twenty; the hooks of the pillars and their fillets were of silver. And for the north side the hangings were an hundred cubits, their pillars were twenty, and their sockets of brass twenty; the hooks of the pillars and their fillets of silver. And for the west side were hangings of fifty cubits, their pillars ten, and their sockets ten; the hooks of the pillars and their fillets of silver. And for the east side eastward fifty cubits. The hangings of the one side of the gate were fifteen cubits; their pillars three, and their sockets three. And for the other side of the court gate, on this hand and that hand, were hangings of fifteen cubits; their pillars three, and their sockets three. All the hangings of the court round about were of fine twined linen. And the sockets for the pillars were of brass; the hooks of the pillars and their fillets of silver; and the overlaying of their chapiters of silver; and all the pillars of the court were filleted with silver. And the hanging for the gate of the court was needlework, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen: and twenty cubits was the length, and the height in the breadth was five cubits, answerable to the hangings of the court. And their pillars were four, and their sockets of brass four; their hooks of silver, and the overlaying of their chapiters and their fillets of silver. And all the pins of the tabernacle, and of the court round about, were of brass. (Exodus 38:9-20) Praise God!

Hi; In Him, though I know these words weren’t directed at me. I just wanted you to know how much life, truth, wisdom and openness before God there is in these writings. Blessed me so much, listened to them multiple times. Saw a believer that was willing to “sell all they have and follow Jesus” or in modern words “give up all of self and follow Jesus”. Than to read the words that say all; “even to my own hurt” These words are the hallmark of a soul that is willing to let truth as it is found in Jesus, do all in and to them that truth would have done. Whether these truths, please, or don’t please self. For the joy that comes in the morning, after these truths do their perfect work. As I’m sure you have learned and tasted by experience, is a joy that nothing can compare. Blessings to you, for blessing me, and all those that would read your words. Much love in Christ, Not me

* I too have benefited from the instruction of such, to whom I will be eternally grateful, '@In Him'. * These are useful verses that you have provided, and refer to those who have received a 'trust', which they are called upon to faithfully administer to others. Which brings to my mind another passage of Scripture: words spoken by Paul to Timothy:- 'Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.' (2 Timothy 1:13-14) * I believe that the content of the epistle to the Ephesians, along with that of Philippians, Colossians, 1&2 Timothy and Titus, contain a trust, a deposit of truth, for which faithfulness in Christ Jesus was, and is still, a vital requirement. It was not the gospel of salvation, or of justification by faith, vital though those are, but the knowledge of the administration of the church which is the Body of Christ, of which Christ Himself is the Head. The content of which I believe was the substance of the 'form of sound words' which had been heard and entrusted to Timothy by Paul: and was so vehemently opposed: prompting the following words of Paul, in 2 Timothy 1:15:- ' This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.' * These epistles were written to believers, to whom God would make known the truth that is, ' Christ in (or among) us', which is, 'our hope of glory, as members of the Church which is the Body of Christ. This was unique at the time of writing, as was the hope and sphere of blessing spoken of in these pages. A unique unity, in which the Jew had no prior place, a unique calling, and a sphere of blessings which are spiritual, and all ours in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. A completeness and acceptance in Christ, a standing of holiness in which there is no blame to be found; and a spirit of Sonship which could call the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 'Father'. Forgive me for getting carried away with the glory of this, @In Him.. With love in Christ Jesus Chris

Yes, there are many Bibles out there. It is no excuse if a person does not think one is not perfect for them not to read the Bible. They all have the word of God.

Tract distribution is a great way to plant the seed, and water it, so that God can bring forth the increase. Yes, the message of that tract is still embedded in my mind. Gary

I read that same tract when I was about 10 or 11 or so. I got saved then, but didn't get any real Christian training until much later while in the Air Force. There were plenty of folks who were lead to Christ either by tracts directly or indirectly. At one time I had a small collection of that tract in half a dozen languages while in Europe. Paul said it well: one sows and another waters, but its God who gives the increase.

I don't know if this belongs here because I did not see an evangelism forum. Back in 1969 after coming home from Vietnam, a woman gave me a chick tract entitled "This Was Your Life." After reading this tract I felt conviction of sin right away. I would like to say that I came to the Lord shortly thereafter, but it took 5 years before I actually repented of my sin and received Christ as my Savior. The sad thing is, that I experienced this conviction of sin off and on (mostly on) for the next 5 years. I can only guess as to why I waited so long, but I am very thankful to this woman who gave me this tract. The link below will tell of a man who passed out tracts everyday for over 40 year. It is only 9 minutes long, but in my opinion very inspiring. I'm sure you know why. I hope all who listen to this will also be inspired also. I don't think you were able to listen to the link on the effectiveness of tracts, because it was removed from here by admin. My fault. I moved it to the Video Forum under the title "Do Gospel Tracts Really Work?" in BIBLICAL TOPICS It is only 9 minutes long, but well worth the time. Please let me know what you think. Gary

' Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:' (Ephesians 1:1) Hello there, Paul's epistle to the Ephesians, is addressed to the 'Saints' and those who were the 'Faithful in Christ Jesus'. I ask for your thoughts on this, please. Saints are believers in the Lord Jesus, yes, but this goes further, doesn't it? To 'the faithful in Christ Jesus'. What is your understanding of what is meant by this? What is meant by being 'faithful in Christ Jesus' in your estimation, or more importantly in the estimation of God and His Word. Thank you In Christ Jesus Chris

Lord I come to you today to ask forgiveness we humble ourselves Lord and ask you to heal our nation. We ask your forgiveness for the murder of millions of babies Lord please forgive us. We ask Lord that you forgive us for being Luke Warm and please bring us to our knees Lord so that we may once again allow your Holy Spirit to work in our lives. Lord we ask you to take the bitterness of our nation and bring us together again. Lord we are sorry for taking you out of our Government our Schools our Colleges and our Churches and we ask you to forgive us for the Prosperity messages yes we Lord are guilty for thinking of only ourselves. We humble ourselves and ask you to forgive us for not praying enough and talking to you Lord. Please forgive us for not reading your word and learning more about you and your ways. We have sinned greatly as a nation against the Lord our God in the words of Charles Spurgeon, Prayer pulls the rope below and the great bell rings above in the ears of God. Some scarcely stir the bell, for they pray so languidly. Others give but an occasional pluck at the rope. But he who wins with heaven is the man who grasps the rope boldly and pulls continuously, with all his might.

Shalom my brother, Praise Yahweh! Many methods are needed and no one will be do the exact same thing (where would be the point in that?). I'm confident that this could well be your calling brother. May the Father bless your debates with detractors richly, in the name of Yahushua, for His Glory. Thanks for taking time to look at the website. Love & Shalom

What the original poster means by anglicized is the niv written for folks in the UK; using their spellings and so forth. Some of the words and spellings differ from American english and the uk. I found this on amazon, I hope it is what your looking for. Also Bible gateway has an online nivuk version, single column that you can read online if your interested, just click on nivuk and it will bring up that version for you. https://www.amazon.com/NIV-Zondervan-Study-Bible-Anglicised/dp/1473637783

In the meantime why not use the dilemma as reason to select a nice new tablet computer, then online select Biblegateway.com NIV (Anglicized) set with one or more parallel Bibles, perhaps including the ESV, plus the NRSV Anglicized? Make it an Ipad or Ibook anything with ISO system from Mac and purchase Accordance by Oaktree Software. Actually it is now available for other operating systems as well. Open multiple windows and one can have Strong's Concordance or open at the same time or whatever references one may like to use. Use it next to an open Bible and you will have the right atmosphere including that nice bookworm odorous scent too.

Shalom, R. Hartono. You're thinking two-dimensionally (which is a DIRECT result of all the time-line charts we were shown as kids or at least young Christians). In fact, time is the FOURTH dimension! There are three measurable dimensions in which we experience life: length, width, and depth (or height, depending on your perspective). We see these three dimensions because of our binocular sight (two eyes). However, when we have a particular 3-D scenario at one moment of time and then a second, slightly different 3-D scenario at the next moment in time, we are experiencing the FOURTH dimension - the SHIFT in 3-D along the "timeline." When we watch a ball bouncing across a room diagonally, we see the ball changing directions along the length of the room, along the width of the room, and vertically as it bounces up and down, but it takes the strobe effect of stop-action photography to see the ball's movement through time. Here's an example: bouncing ball strobe By MichaelMaggs Edit by Richard Bartz - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2880974 The point is this: The "Rapture" will be a GLOBAL event that occurs around the world such that all are gathered in a short amount of time. The thing to remember about this image (that I used to use as an avatar) is that movement is FROM the left to the right along the white lines. When Yeshua` returns, He will send out His messengers around the globe to gather His chosen ones - His elect - and gather them to Himself in the skies above Israel. The beheaded saints shall be resurrected WITH the rest of those in the First Resurrection! Revelation 20 is not JUST about the beheaded saints; John just makes it a point to say that they are INCLUDED in the First Resurrection! Revelation 20:4-6 (KJV) 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Verse 6 is about EVERYONE who shall participate in the First Resurrection!

there is no valid reason to connect those two passages, and many reasons not to.

This is a second coming verse.

get a casher's check and just mail it to her...

Hi RH, You have not proven by scripture that the two are the same. You have just assumed that. Matt. 24 scripture is to Israel, while the 1 Thess. 4 is to the Body of Christ. Now that is basic teaching there bro, - who is talking to whom. You seem to think it is all about us. So do you read a newspaper as all about you? No, of course not. Well then we do not read God`s word as all about us. God`s word is to reveal Christ to us and His purposes for the 3 groups - the Body of Christ, for Israel and for the nations/ Marilyn.

Thank you so very much Christine for setting before us such a banquet of food to eat. I am going to have to get my sharp knife out to cut and eat this steak you have set before us. Munchity munch munch. ?? Blessongs, Much love in Christ, Not me

OH YES its my PASSION . FOR JESUS IS MY PASSION . But the passion of most leaders today , is a dead and empty bomb that will explode upon them , ON the DAY OF THE LORD . I want us to ponder something . Is GOD angry with those who are passionate to ensure that none follow anything or anyone , BUT CHRIST as the only savoir . But I will tell us what makes God FURIOUS . When men let men worship whatever they deem as God , and just come together for unity . Those men of belial trod JESUS under foot . And whether it costs me all, I am going out the way I came in , SAVED BY GRACE and sounding out the ONLY NAME whereby one is saved . And exposing every lie birthed of darkness . WE in the last of the last of the last of days . And most folks are just hugging others right to the lake of fire . Those who LOVE in Spirit and truth will warn , and pray for those who do so . Hands up and let all rejoice IN THE LORD . Let every hand be raised and the song of praise to the LORD who is worthy to be praised . You all are loved . To the LORD be all glory to the LORD be all praise .

Making the Bronze Basin 'And he made the laver of brass, and the foot of it of brass, of the lookingglasses of the women assembling, which assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. (Exodus 38:8) Praise God!

* This is your passion, @frienduff thaylorde, and is on your heart to make known: I agree there is only One Who can save, and that is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, through the sacrificial offering of His Only Begotten Son. As Peter said, by the power of the Spirit in Act 4:12:- 'Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.' Praise God! In Christ Jesus Chris

all of it was one beaten work of pure gold One BEATEN work . the work of GOD . And He was bruised for our inquities . Beaten beyond recognition , marred beyond recognition . The entire temple , of heavenly Jerusalem , IS OF THE LORD . We just stones In that temple . ALL HANDS Be LIFTED and LET ALL PRAISE THE LORD . ALL hands be raised unto HE who has saved us . ALL rejoicing , LET IT BE IN THE LORD . Let it be IN THE ONE WHO has saved us . And let all be fast and quicker than greased lightning to shun inclusive lies . IF one rejects JESUS , THERE IS NO HOPE . allah cannot save , the buddist , the mulsim , the hindu , the atheist , Are only in grave danger of hell fire , LEST a man repents and believes , THERE IS NO HOPE . IT would not matter if all them joined hand in hand , Gave every penny they owned to the poor , Even sacrificed their own life , IF they die without Faith in Christ LAKE OF FIRE IS THIER HOME . I know stuff like this is really bothering some folks . BUT I AINT GONNA be a man who gives false hope . JESUS ONLY or perish .

Yes Chris, exactly. Thanks for the reply. God bless! Shalom, David/BeauJangles

Thank you @Beaujangles, Though written to the Ephesians I believe it was used as a circular letter sent to the Churches under Paul's care. Also, for it to be included in the collection of writings chosen to make up the Scriptures of the New Testament, it must have been intended for future reading too, and to be understood by we who read it in this century in the same light as it was originally intended. With love in Christ Jesus Chris

I did not even know it was St. Patrick's Day. I have significant Irish roots.

Hi Christine, This is a very interesting question, and thanks for posting it. Perhaps yet another question here. Would it be at all possible, the Lord gave Paul the understanding his letters would also be shared by other churches some time in the future? That might be a little far-fetched, and I'm only assuming here, but it's a thought. If so, this could account for the ' faithful in Christ Jesus'. To me it would appear to be one in the same, and nothing further indicated. I could be totally wrong about this, and way out in left field. Looking forward other's responses. God bless! Shalom, David/BeauJangles

Making the Altar of Burnt Offering 'And he made the altar of burnt offering of shittim wood: .. five cubits was the length thereof, .... and five cubits the breadth thereof; ...... it was foursquare; ........ and three cubits the height thereof. And he made the horns thereof on the four corners of it; .. the horns thereof were of the same: .... and he overlaid it with brass. And he made all the vessels of the altar, .. the pots, and the shovels, and the basons, .... and the fleshhooks, and the firepans: ...... all the vessels thereof made he of brass. And he made for the altar a brasen grate of network .. under the compass thereof .... beneath unto the midst of it. And he cast four rings for the four ends of the grate of brass, .. to be places for the staves. And he made the staves of shittim wood, .. and overlaid them with brass. And he put the staves into the rings on the sides of the altar, to bear it withal; .. he made the altar hollow with boards.' (Exodus 38:1-7) Praise God!

Making the Altar of Incense 'And he made the incense altar of shittim wood: .. the length of it was a cubit, and the breadth of it a cubit; .... it was foursquare; ...... and two cubits was the height of it; ........ the horns thereof were of the same. .......... And he overlaid it with pure gold, ............ both the top of it, and the sides thereof round about, and the horns of it: also he made unto it a crown of gold round about. .. And he made two rings of gold for it under the crown thereof, .... by the two corners of it, ...... upon the two sides thereof, ........ to be places for the staves to bear it withal. And he made the staves of shittim wood, .. and overlaid them with gold. And he made the holy anointing oil, .. and the pure incense of sweet spices, .... according to the work of the apothecary.' (Exodus 37:25-29) Praise God!

I should also add that I was growing up in a non-religious home at the time. We also lived "out in the sticks" at that time. Religion was something that wasn't allowed to be discussed at the time due to my dad's strong dislike of the subject. Funny how the Gospel got in anyway, not just for me, but for my younger brother and our mom. Christ knows no barriers.

Making the Lampstand 'And he made the candlestick of pure gold: .. of beaten work made he the candlestick; .... his shaft, and his branch, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, were of the same: And six branches going out of the sides thereof; .. three branches of the candlestick out of the one side thereof, .... and three branches of the candlestick out of the other side thereof: ...... Three bowls made after the fashion of almonds in one branch, a knop and a flower; ........ and three bowls made like almonds in another branch, a knop and a flower: .......... so throughout the six branches going out of the candlestick. And in the candlestick were four bowls made like almonds, his knops, and his flowers: .. And a knop under two branches of the same, .... and a knop under two branches of the same, ...... and a knop under two branches of the same, ........ according to the six branches going out of it. .......... Their knops and their branches were of the same: ............ all of it was one beaten work of pure gold. And he made his seven lamps, and his snuffers, and his snuffdishes, of pure gold. .. Of a talent of pure gold made he it, .... and all the vessels thereof.' (Exodus 37:17-29) Praise God!

Of course! However, if several things are happening at the same time, those events are concurrent or simultaneous, whatever the circumstance. If 5 parallel paths have staggered beginnings some of the events or circumstances will either occur or exist concurrently; even as the separate events of the 5 parallel paths are successive within each path. Rev is chronological in some respects; seals, trumps, and vials are consecutive, 1-7. It's like a date like March 16th. It's a chronological date but it exists concurrent with the month of March and the year 2019, even as March is chronological and yet exists concurrent within the year, and the year is chronological concurrent in the decade and the century, etc., so is the Revelation. Since this, (wrath) And when I saw the Lamb open the sixth seal, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind. The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place. Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the commanders, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and free man, hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. And they said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. For the great day of Their wrath has come, and who is able to withstand it?” - Rev 6 And this, (also wrath) And the seventh angel sounded.... And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. - Rev 11 And this, (Islands and mountains gone; same as 6th seal. Hail and the great earthquake; same as at the 7th trump, which is also the last trump at which we are gathered) And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. - Rev 16 Happen at or near the same time and so the preceding events have a concurrent/successive fulfillment. It all comes to an end at or near the same time. Not to the second, but all ending right before the millennium. Even if all the vials occur after the 7th trump, which is fine with me though I'm not going to get into why or why not; the 6th seal is the sign of the coming of Jesus and the 7th trump is the last trump at which time Jesus tells us we are gathered. This means at the very least all the trumps have sounded by the time of the 6th seal, the 7th in conjunction, and the coming of wrath and the gathering.

This goes for Muslim extremism as well.

Hi Spock, There is the scripture that, I believe nails it for us. `See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, “Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also the heaven.` (Heb.12: 25 & 26) And that reference is taken from Haggai. `For thus says the Lord of hosts: “Once more I will shake heaven and earth, the sea and dry land; and I will shake all nations, and they shall come to the Desire of All Nations,..(Hag.2: 6 & 7) So we see that God will shake the heaven and earth ONCE more. Joel 3: 12 - 16 `Let the nations be wakened and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat; (outside Jerusalem) for there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations. Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, go down; for the winepress is full, the vats overflow - for their wickedness is great. Multitude, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the Day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. The sun and moon will grow dark, and the stars will diminish their brightness. The Lord also will roar from Zion, (heaven) and utter His voice from Jerusalem; the heavens and earth will shake, but the Lord will be a shelter for His people, and the strength of the children of Israel.`(Joel 3: 12 - 16) Clearly that is the shaking God is talking about. There in Joel we see when that will happen. God has brought the world`s armies down from Armageddon, to around Jerusalem to the valley of Jehoshaphat. The heavens shake - the sun, moon and stars and the earth also. Rev. 6: 12 - 17 `I looked when he opened the 6th seal, and behold, there was a Great Earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Rev. 6: 12 - 17) God is describing that He is shaking the heavens and earth here, and thus places this event at the end of the tribulation, just before the Lord returns in power and great glory with His angelic army.

I too was a reader of all the little tracts I could find. They did bless me so in my journey to Christ. Very nice video. So true it is, obedience to Christ, we never know the fruit that it has, or can, or will produce, we just have to be obedient to God, as He speaks to our hearts. Blessings, Much love in Christ, Not me

I think what your doing blesses the heart of God. God has some in this, and some in that. Sounds like God has given you a peace in your heart about how you are pleasing to Him. Many blessings as you continue to please and serve God with your abilities. May they bring you useful service to the one who called you to Himself. Blessings Much love in Christ, Not me

Absolutely or else this would not be written 1 John 3:20-21 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. KJV The flesh is not redeemed but if new birth has occurred then war with what we were with what we have become is present always within us... The more we press in building our s/Spiritual being the less the clamor of and distraction of that which passes away.... if you are looking for verification of your inner person being made alive - this only can be done between you and our Lord in Spirit Rom 8:14-16 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: KJV Like @missmuffet has said it is personal and it is verifiable in and of itself.... to ask another if you are saved or verify you are is like asking someone else to control your hand for you If you are in doubt search the Word, do the Word, talk to God in prayer about all things... would you say the percentage of your time is of the Word or of the World? The percentage is the value system of your heart toward either eternal distinctions (The Word of God) or distinctions that pass away (the world and all that comprises it).

Churches are full of those that have been deceived by the Enemy. J.VernonMcGee said that he did not think that even half of his congregation was saved.He is not alone in that sad conclusion .Those “trying to be saved “ as opposed to those who are “ trusting” to be saved are the unsaved tares in the Church.

Not exactly an accurate statement. But he answered, ‘Truly I say to you, I do not know you.’ Matthew 25:12 He doesn't say that He never knew them, only that He did not know them at that point in time. The foolish virgins brought lamps with oil, just not any extra for the long haul. Last trumpet on the last day. Endurance. Perseverance. Extra oil. The message is clear.

Hi, nice to meet you and welcome to Worthy Christian Forum. I'm a young teen who still believes and practices what my Bubble teaches regardless of the time. Because i believe that though the world may change, my God and his word never changes.

""Second Coming Messiah - He is the messiah - Son of God - he is alive on earth today and will unite all the faiths."" He is not on earth today alive in His Glorified Body.. He is in Heaven and will not return to earth until the day of His second coming.. ""Anti Christ - this man is the embodiment of the devil and is alive today. he is the most powerful and dangerous human on earth."" We do not know if he is alive today or not.. ""False Prophet - this man was chosen by the anti-christ and is the second most dangerous man and has tricked many people."" We do not know if he is alive today.. So we cannot know if he has tricked anyone yet.. Also the identification of the evil Spirits could be one Spirit working through demonic spirits.. Ephesians 2: KJV 1 "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; {2} Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:" ""Angels - many angels are mentioned, like rev 18 - about the angel which destroyed the harlot spirit"" Do you have scriptural support for this conclusion? Please post it.. ""Holy Spirits - many holy spirits exist which give blessings and help people, and visit priests"" There is One Holy Spirit and He dwells with all Christians.. I do not believe catholicism is Christian so if the Holy Spirit visits priests it would only be to convict them to move them to leave that religion..

Near my house, polystrate fossils are forming now. A dam produced a lake, and the dead trees in the shallows are slowly being buried in sediment. Eventually you could have polystrate fossils. Paleontologists figured this out a long time ago.

wow.....terribly tough situation. I really don't know any substitute for really digging in with Him and finding out what His will is in all this. I think it might be appropriate to attempt to establish in their minds and in reality, the divine order of a father in charge of his own house....and responsible before God for how it is structured and run. I think understanding that you have certain expectations for the conduct under your roof could be delivered gently, but firmly. Infractions are something you can then begin to (gently) point out, and let them know fall outside the boundaries you approve of for conduct in a place under your authority ...and for which you will give an account. Perhaps let them know (again, gently) of the infractions you disapprove, and let it go....while informing them you will be appealing to the HIGHEST authority for a remedy. Father is a GOOD Father, as you are trying to model. And if you take violations of your authority (delegated to you by Him) to Him in prayer, and leave resolution of those violations in His hands....I suspect that HE will establish you in the authority He has delegated to any father. And He can do it in such a way, that He reveals Himself to them in the process of establishing your authority for you. If you try to establish your own authority in their eyes, by your own efforts and power, rebellion is likely to be the result. If HE does it, it will result in respect for both you and Him. I will be praying for you Not a situation I envy you for, but He is good I will also ask Him to speak clearly at every step in ways you can clearly hear and to give you peace with acting on whatever you hear.

this has been a really hard subject for me as well with the issue of masturbation, I've been struggleing with that issue myself, but I know that through Jesus I can overcome this I feel like I have betrayed my future b/f & husband by not saving myself for him & only him I feel that I need to pray harder