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I'm OBOH (one burger, one hotdog). I believe this is the more balanced view. If you read Meal Times 20:40 you will clearly see that's what the author intended to say. I can't believe anyone could dare have another view. If you look at the original German for hamburger you will note that it is always mentioned together with Wurst, which is German for sausage which implies hot dogs and hamburgers should be taken together

Begging your pardon, but Jesus was and is Christ Messiah, Son of God, Saviour. Not a radical as you surmise. Alright then, I'm out. Have a good one. God bless.

More than once in Communist prisons I have seen a pastor receive a beating to the blood in place of another prisoner. A name would be called and the pastor would simply say, “It is I.” In Auschwitz, Maximilian Kolbe, a priest, offered to take the place of a Pole sentenced to death by the Nazis. The Pole was the father of many children. The commandant of the camp accepted the substitution and the Pole was spared. Kolbe died by asphyxiation. Had you been that Pole, what would you have decided?---Pastor Richard Wurmbrand 1 John 3:16 (NIV) 16 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.

As I was lying in bed last night praying for the Worthy family, I thought about how much love is on these forums and what a privilege it is to be a member here. I am so looking forward to the eternal fellowship we will enjoy together in the Presence of our LORD. (Hope you'll forgive the encore if it's already been posted) When We All Get to Heaven Sing the wondrous love of Jesus, sing his mercy and his grace; in the mansions bright and blessed he'll prepare for us a place. Refrain: When we all get to heaven, what a day of rejoicing that will be! When we all see Jesus we'll sing and shout the victory. While we walk the pilgrim pathway clouds will overspread the sky, but when traveling days are over, not a shadow, not a sigh. [Refrain] Let us then be true and faithful, trusting, serving every day; just one glimpse of Him in glory will the toils of life repay. [Refrain]

In the eyes of the RCC, you cannot presume you can be saved period. If you do, that is the sin of presumption, and must be confessed to your priest.

@Neighbor Nice version of this much loved hymn. Interesting story behind it, too. Thanks for sharing it. As a child I thought it was about coming to Jesus in prayer in a peaceful garden and sensing His presence there. Your history of the hymn intrigued me. So I looked it up and added a bit more info I found. Also, the lyrics. God bless you. I Come to the Garden SONG & MUSIC WRITER: C.Austin Miles HYMN HISTORY: C. Austin Miles writes his own story on how the words were written to "In the Garden." "One day in March, 1912, I was seated in the darkroom where I kept my photographic equipment and organ. I drew my Bible toward me; it opened at my favorite chapter, John 20 . . . That meeting of Jesus and Mary had lost none of its power to charm. As I read it that day, I seemed to be part of the scene. I became a silent witness to that dramatic moment in Mary's life, when she knelt before her Lord, and cried, "Rabboni!" . . . Under the inspiration of this vision I wrote as quickly as the words could be formed the poem exactly as it has since appeared. That same evening I wrote the music." BIBLE VERSE: John 18:1 – “When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his disciples.” HYMN LYRICS: I come to the garden alone, While the dew is still on the roses; And the voice I hear, falling on my ear, The Son of God discloses. Refrain: And He walks with me, and He talks with me, And He tells me I am His own, And the joy we share as we tarry there, None other has ever known. He speaks, and the sound of His voice Is so sweet the birds hush their singing, And the melody that He gave to me, Within my heart is ringing. (Refrain) I'd stay in the garden with Him Though the night around me be falling, But He bids me go; through the voice of woe, His voice to me is calling. And He walks with me, and He talks with me, And He tells me I am His own, And the joy we share as we tarry there, None other has ever known.

Sorry Coliseum, I don't mean to distract from your point. It's an important one and I'm enjoying it...too much I'm in an unusually silly mood but have often wished there was more attention paid to what is said and what is assumed (and discerning the difference between the two )

All I know is Thank GOD for Alka-Seltzer !

Yes, I believe they were literally the first two people on earth - created by God. Guess who also believes that. Luke - In his genealogy of Jesus Christ, he goes all the way back to Adam. Jesus - In Christ's discussions of marriage, he refers to Adam and Eve "in the beginning" as how God instituted marriage. Since Jesus WAS the creator - I think he would know what he was talking about. Paul - He relates Christ and Adam. Adam - brought death. Jesus - brought life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ God made the tree of knowledge of good and evil available to Adam/Eve so that their loyalty to God would indeed be loyalty. One can't be faithful, true, or virtuous of their own free will if there is no free will. Otherwise, one is a robot who obeys out of cold duty and not love and devotion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Did the punishment fit the crime? No. They should have been destroyed on the spot. They receive GREAT mercy. God allowed them to live. He made coats of skins for them as their futile attempt to clothe themselves was a disaster. He maintained a relationship with them - albeit not face to face anymore, but the relationship was real. He provided them with a family - lots of children. Eve was blessed to give birth and was glad for it even though the pain was a punishment. Her words at her first child's birth show that. What they did was not just to "eat a piece of fruit". They chose to turn their back on God and create their own rules and become their own masters. Eve chose to listen to the devil and BELIEVE that God's words were false, lusted after the fruit for good, and wanted to be as wise as God, equal with him. She was deceived, and acted accordingly. Adam just flat out defied God. The Bible says he was with Eve when this happened. His blatant defiance - his eyes wide open - is what brought sin into the world. And what happened? They instantaneously knew what evil was because they became sinners and felt great shame and blamed anyone except themselves. Adam even blamed God. There first son was a murderer. You see, he had free will also. It was inherited from his parents. Everyone after Adam and Eve became a wretch of a human being who had to be saved from what Adam and Eve brought into the world. That's what Paul teaches in the New Testament. The whole world became cursed because of their deception and defiance. The New Testament gives much credibility to Adam and Eve being very, very literal.

Taco Bell? Tastes like hamburger helper to me. Everything there has the same taste.

if that person has given himself to Jesus and has the Holy Spirit the cult can not hurt them....

There is another consequence to being a Satanist, that is spending an eternity in hell.

Brings back good memories for me, too, turtletwo. Even as a youngster, I found hymns worshipful. Oh, how much your dad must be enjoying adding his voice to the praise of heaven! -(and my parents, too)!

A follower of Jesus without affiliation? How archaic. Right out of the 1st century.

@marvelloustime Praise the Lord! I'm glad that I could introduce you to one of my favorite hymns. It brings out a tenderness in our Lord to think that He cares for all of His creations...even the tiny sparrows. Cool. Where is that scripture found, dear sister? I'm happy you do. Thanks for letting me know. I always thought of sparrows as sweet. Btw, sorry it took me so long to react to your post. I just now found it. This shows how unorganized and willy-nilly I am. I see you posted it around the time of my daughter's wedding, so that might explain it. lol Please read what I wrote in my reply to Jubilea. I mentioned you in a comment there.

@Jubilea Me, too!! I'm eager to meet you, Becky, frienduff, sugarbear, Beaujangles, and soooo many more. Too many to list. The song you posted has such encouraging lyrics. Thanks! Brings back wonderful memories of growing up. This is one we would sing in our little church. My family would attend together. My dad (now in Heaven) really enjoyed the hymns. I loved how he belted them out.

Hi, to clarify yes! From my own perspective there is. There is Christian where there is neither Jew nor Gentile according to my understanding of what has been shared within the Bible and recorded as being stated by Paul. "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Both the Isaiah and the revelation passages are talking about God's promise of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. Isaiah was looking forward to the time when Jesus would redeem the whole world through his death on the cross and resurrection.

Every time I say pollo wife corrects me to poyo. ll = y I never did well in algebra. And flunked French 1 four times.

Amen.

Hi, This lyric is a representation of the very personal experience of one woman alone. That woman Mary Magdelene. It was written under commission in just a few minutes under the illumination given to C. Austin Miles. To me it is best sung by a woman and not a man unless the history and what the song represents is also given.

He 'IS' the sufficiency of all matters without end...

I do not support your "knowledge".

For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh ( Galatians 5:17). The sin nature had been crucified with Christ but it has not been eradicated. I have found that the simple way to put it to death is to STARVE it by feeding my spirit man continually with the presence of the Lord and the Word of God. Feed the flesh and you will reap corruption. Feed the Spirit and you will reap life

I voted for burger and I’m not OSAS.

I have it on good authority that those who like hamburgers are OSAS and those that like hot dogs are NSOAS.......Sorry......force of habit......lol

Again, no offense meant. I can be somewhat eccentric myself at times. But this makes absolutely no relevant sense whatsoever. It's all a bunch of philosophical jargon and lofty terminology. Just saying. Carry on, I guess.

I don't mean to intentionally pick apart the topic or comment here, but where in the world are you getting this stuff anyway? No offense meant, it's just a little odd and unconventional. Are you into existentialism or something like it?

There are those subconscious filters, and then there is what's referred to as "selective hearing" where the message is clearly understood but rejected and consciously altered into what the hearer wants to hear.

Amen!

Hi Nadjeschda, I noticed you are in Germany while most of us are in the USA, what I mean is people's attitudes are probably quite different where you are. In fact I'm sure they're different. I've never been big on trying to evangelize other people because no one could ever convince me. God had to convince me. That was a very long time ago. When I look back on it now, I'm glad for all the people who tried to evangelize me, but I wish they hadn't argued with me. What was helpful was just hearing from people that they believed in Jesus. Back then we were known as "Jesus freaks" and I didn't want to become a Jesus freak. But I did and I'm glad I am. I also want to say that around here if someone said he believes he is god my first thought would be he's into the New Age, not that he's a narcissist. But that could be a cultural difference. Let the Holy Spirit be your guide in terms of who to tell about your faith. That's the best advice I have.

! Blessed be The Holy One

I love that! I’ve not heard of that hymn, but the lyrics are wonderful. I read a verse yesterday that said “We can’t see Him, but He sees us.” The lyrics to your hymn reminded me of it. And I love the picture of that cute sparrow! God bless, Becky. X

That's exactly what they said, and of course they knew better. It's blasphemy, and you betcha it's against the Holy Ghost. Pure and simple, well said bro.

Some say that in order to commit the unpardonable sin, you have to do what those in the crowd did that day.They told Jesus to His face — “ You have a demon in you!” It is impossible to commit this identicle sin unless you have a time machine, in their opinion. There are many more theories out there.That’s all they are- theories.

Praise God!! @JustPassingThru How awesome our God is!! Nothing even comes close to the presence of the Lord. Thank you for sharing your experience so beautifully.

I believe it is very literal. I also believe Christ is the ultimate answer to all your questions. Sin against God is deserving of death. He is our creator, and he didn’t make us puppets or robots. He gave clear warnings of what not to do and what to do. As a Holy and righteous God who cannot overlook sin he did show mercy. He made them coats of skin, and gave them a temporary way to continue fellowship with him (as was shown by Abel)until he would eventually crush his own Son for us all. God Loves man, and desires us to be with him. In Adam we would not be heirs of God, seated at his right hand. In Christ, man is at a level where Adam could have never taken us. Our fall was really a blessing. Christ Jesus is now enjoying the glory he had before, but as a man bringing all of us who believe with him. Heb 2:9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Heb 2:10 In bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through what he suffered. We have his divine nature in Christ, where as Adam was simply innocent and made from dust. 2Pe 1:3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 2Pe 1:4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

If you accept the previous post I made on this topic, then it is easier to answer this question. In Romans Paul says that the Law was added so that sin might increase. He explains that in detail and it is a very important part of his logic presented in Romans. Why did God do that? Read Romans over and over until you understand it. It is not a devotional with separate pieces for each day. If you go to outside sources for help, be gaurded against their biases. You ask why God did not keep Adam and Eve from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. A very important question. I ask it a different way, why did he put it there at all? He even put it right next to the Tree of Life, which they were not prevented from eating until after they ate the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Understanding Romans helps this journey. Understanding the Sermon on the Mount helps this journey. Understanding the Gospel is crucial. Jesus died for the sins of who? The scripture says in plain words: the whole world. Salvation is not the forgiveness of sins, it is believing that Jesus (who died for the sins) is supreme (Lord) and has risen from the dead. The antithesis of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Suddenly, for me, the Garden story became crystal clear. God had predestined that the Christ would come and carefully built his plans so that people, whom he Loves, would not be deceived into thinking they could do anything other than trust his mercy. I have come to believe that being born into this world gave me the opportunity to face massive difficulty, which I HATE. Being born into the spiritual world, has undone the death at foot of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Now I have the opportunity to do something 1/3 of the "angels" couldn't do. Trust God.

I think here is an important issue: Who decides what is fair? If you look at any country in the world, you will find numerous laws that can be easily shown to be unfair when compared against other standards. Yet these laws are used to destroy peoples lives. (this paragraph is intended to show that standards of what is fair change in geographic regions and yet are enforced with violence. This paragraph does not pertain to the actions of God, but only to the actions of men.) If you look at social opinion, you see dramatic changes over time and in geographic regions. I started to write several examples of this here but I realized that many social issues are highly charged and would distract the conversation from a focus on the changing nature of fair. ... I thought of another example and wrote it all out. Then realized that the new example would excite a negative response as well, again distracting from the goal of writing this. So deleted it. I can't find an example of changing social beliefs without being a afraid to post it. Perhaps that fact is enough to illustrate the point. Do your own research to examine what things change and how violently strong people feel about each set of changes. This paragraph does not pertain to the actions of God, but only to the actions of men. Human sense of fair is incredibly fickle. So as humans it is difficult to determine if God is fair because we have a changing view of fair. So I keep that in mind for myself, my feelings about right and wrong are easily swayed by group opinions. But as I wrote in other posts, there are difficulties that need addressing. Your basic issue, if I am understanding you, is reconciling the God of Mercy with the God of Judgement, since we know this is only one God. I for one, desparately need to see the Mercy side of God a lot, being a bride that needs the "I love you" every day. When I see the judgement side it can be very threatening. Yet I have an overpowering need for truth. It would be so nice to just lean back into the Mercy side of God and ignore the hard questions. Some people do that and I admire them. I have long since left the stage of growth where everyone must be like me. Their salvation is not dependent on their study of anything. Faith in Jesus saves. I think you share this need to understand. How can God be Merciful and Loving if sin was so bad that eating from the wrong tree sent the whole human race to damnation (as the doctrine of original sin asserts). There are lots of models people construct (ideas they present as alternative ways of viewing the problem). Many models try to lessen the severity of the event - the eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. But even so there are many other such difficulties to encounter in the scriptures. So I decided it was best to pursue it rather than avoid it. For me. I found a way of looking at it that brings many difficulties in scripture into alignment. Go the other way and embrace it for what it says. It helps to say it in other words, as the original words are tied in our minds to the way we were originally taught. When Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, the sin was so great that God himself had to die, because he loves us.

I believe that the story was literal. The reason is because of the fulfilled prophecies. If God is able to predict the future, which is a very difficult thing to do, it gives me confidence that His account of the past is also accurate. If you are interested, I shared a few of my thoughts on this topic in a recent YouTube vlog entitled "Is the Bible Reliable?". Adam and Eve ate fruit, but the real issue was that they chose their own way over God's way. This action opened a way of life that resulted in untold evil. I suppose in this sense, all the evil could be attributed back to that first act. But I think it is more accurate to view the way of life, continued through the years, as the real culprit. As far as mercy in the Garden of Eden, God told Adam and Eve that in the day they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they would surely die. Yet they did not die. However, something did die, because God clothed them with skins, and then they were allowed to live on, at least for a time. This experience was a symbol of Jesus. Paul wrote, "All of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ" (Gal. 3:27, NASB). When we are baptized, we are united with Christ, just as Adam and Eve were clothed with the animals in Eden which were sacrificed. And then He grants us eternal life, which is even better than Adam and Eve being allowed to live on for a time. And one might even say that Adam and Eve were symbolically united with the animals in Eden. After all, they sure looked like them after being clothed with their skins. Thus, in a symbolic sense, Adam and Eve did die on the day they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Likewise, when we are united with Christ, His death counts for us because He considers us part of Himself. This union is so close that He considers our sins as His own, thus His death can justly pay for our guilt. As mentioned already, this union happens because of baptism. Baptism is a symbol of death and resurrection. In other words, believers respond to their sinful desires as a dead person would, and they respond to Christ's desires as very much alive. This way of life undoes the problematic lifestyle introduced by Adam and Eve, and restores people to a path that will result in eternal happiness.

Good day ReneeIW. All churches don't teach much of anything in common. If you are asking if Churches that could be considered to be doctrinally in agreement about "One God, Jesus, Cross, Resurrection", then still, no, they do not all teach the same thing about the historical accuracy of anything. It appears from your statement that you are looking for a vote of churches to determine truth. I firmly believe that you are completely capable of determining that by looking at the issues and seeking the Spirit of God to guide you. Counting the vote from churches does not indicate truth, but you already knew that. Your topic here indicates that you are setting out on exactly that journey. Bravo!

There was a post not too long ago on how one enjoyed their hamburgers, and what sort of toppings were preferred. It was pretty interesting to see how each person 'relished' them. Then sides came up like fries and so on. It made me hungry! Anyway, given the choice I'll go with burgers. Always. Hotdogs are much easier of course to make at home or elsewhere for that matter. Both are good though.

I have tried to like a hot dog with Ketchup and even mayonnaise on it but...... no thanks.

Pfftttt......what kind of thread is this? How can anybody turn this into an argument about OSAS vs NOSAS ?G’wan , get outta here with this stuff.....lol Just for the record,The Simpson’s showed what the ingredients of a hot dog are.......rat tails , raccoon feet, the tongue of a boot and floor dropping’s .....haha hamburgers rule if the have Heinz Ketchup on them—- it MUST be Heinz.

If it’s done right a hotdog is hard to beat.

I would usually get one each in that situation... if I only had one choice I'd take the burger if it had all the fixin's...

I like both but a cheeseburger wins out for me. I can no longer have yellow mustard because I am allergic to turmeric. I used to like my hot dogs loaded with mustard. All yellow mustard has turmeric in it. So I don't like hot dogs as much any longer.

Comfort. The Holy Spirit comforts my weary heart when I am afraid.

Amen....it's the Spirit which gives life to the letters. The Pharisees studied the letters but failed to combine it with faith/spirit, so to them it was a dead letter. To see and receive the word by faith, one must come to God in Christ to receive it....because faith is not of our own....it is of His Spirit.