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God put the whole universe together. Could the same powerfull God also not have preserved his word for us in a Book??! And keep a copy for himself?!! PS 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

Sorry this all happened to you... It is not easy to go truth all this with out ashoulder to cry or an ear to listen. I imagine that you can not talk to you mother because you want to be strong for her. But remember that God is closer to the broken heart. He is the God of all comfort. This life of ours here in this earth is like the grass that dies tomorrow or like a breath. It is very short maybe you get 80 years. A study came up with a estatistic that every human being in the face of the earth will have an avarage of very painfull situation in their life every 3 weeks. So be prepared for it. Get closer and closer to God and seek his friendship he will always be there for you because He promissed not to let us alone here. I don't know how anybody goes trough life without the help of the Holy Spirit. To answer your question about what you have done to deserve all this the answer will be that compared with people that life in Sudan or other poor countries in the world you should be asking what did I deserve to be born in america in such times like this. I was born in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro Brasil. Not only do people go through things there like you go now but they are also hungry and have no Hope of better days. Ten or twenty years from now you will look back and remember this times and find out it could have ben worse. And it will not hurt so much. You will be more forgiving and with maturity understand that God was only braking a vase to make a new one that he could use 10 or 20 years later and help other who are going to the same you are going today. They will be lucky to have you a survivor around to give good advice. I hope I did not take much of your time. My prayers are with you . Love Suzana

It does not appear that it is a crime today. Used to the appearance of a wrong doing was tabu. Not today, it is an anything goes society we live in. You are right Brother Times. Just as an example in my Job I wrote a letter to the company managers telling them that my managers were not effective in stoping fault language at the work place ( Really really bad incuding Jesus name and the "F" word). They talk with some people privatly in the office but never did put it on the bord were every body could see and respect. Yesterday there was on the board that if you go out to smoke and the restaurant is busy you get fire. Yes, but if an employee tells the key manager to "F" herself nothing gets done. The world has no conception of what is good or bad . They just pick and choose. There are many people watching our borders for free this days to stop imigrants to come in to this country. Where are the people when it comes for abortion. Where are the people to stand up against child pornography. It will not get better I can not wait "Maranatha come Lord Jesus "

sometimes... it seems like the "church" is almost gone now...sigh We are the church and we are not destined for the wrath of God to come on the sons of disobidience. Even those who are in the church but are not of the "True Church". We the temple of God. Those who are going to ask Lord when did I see you hungry and feed you... etc, etc... Don't confuse institutions with the man and women of God who serve him and spirit and truth. As the woman at the well of water who asked Jesus where should be the right place of worship. Till today God search for those who worship him and spirit and in true. I found some verses about my own question see if you agree with them! Love Suzana Col 5:6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience 1THESS 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come 1THESS 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, REV 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb DAN 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. In love Suzana

Love Suzana Hey little Joe, Here are some verses to back you up: Col 5:6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience 1THESS 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come 1THESS 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, REV 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb DAN 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. If you remember even one word of a verse a bible search engine could help you in finding the verses that are in your mind. This is one of them http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

It was not long ago that adultery was considered a crime in this country. Why did the law change? Because as time past people in the world become more and more confortable with sin. This shouldn't be the behavior of a true Christian. The word says that we should renew our minds. If somebody is a witness of adultery they should tell the other spouse of both parties. Love your neighbore as yourself. This comandment is above any other. Would you not like to know if your wife or husband have being unfaithfull to you? leviticus 5:1 'If a person sins in hearing the utterance of an oath, and is a witness, whether he has seen or known of the matter--if he does not tell it, he bears guilt You don't need a pastor or the Holy Spirit to reveal you certain things. You just need the word of God and some sanctified common sense. In Love , Suzana

Hi Times, this is my analogy: If God had a rule that good thing would only happen to good people than John 3:16 would have to be rewrited. 16 "For God so loved the( good people) world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever( the good people) believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Also when he created the Earth he said the it was good. This one also would have to be resolved by creating a Earth that was not good so the bad people could live there. But this analogy would never really work with good or bad people because of this verse: Isa64:6 But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away. Love. suzana

Title continuation... Does anyone know any verses that support that the church will be gone before the antichrist takes over? I belive in my heart and trough the scriptures I read that we are going to be rapture before the antichrist take over. But I don't have many Bible verses to DIRECTLY support it. Please write me and let me know what you have that support or not support this argument. Love, Suzana

The answer is on post 17

Please tell this person that the only unperdonable sin is the sin agains the Holy Spirit. WHich means because the He is the only one who can convence a person that he or she is a siner. If a person hear the message of Christ forgivines but think I don't need I am not that bad. Or I will sin a little more than when I am older I will fallow Christ so I can get to heaven. Things like that. Refusing to accept Christ, Because is the Holy Spirit who preach to us in our hearts. It does not have anything to do with an act done or a word spoke before you agreed that you are a sinner and only trough Christ you can get to heaven. I let this verse for your friends meditation. ROM 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? ROM 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Go ahead and read the whole chapter 8 of Romans than talk to that person (if there is one) Love Suzana

ROM 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? ROM 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. If I am saved and think that God has forgoten me and died angry at God. Am I going to hell? Some people will feel more confortable to quickly respond, no because being angry sounds more forgivable than ignorance. If a person is in avery painfull situation in their life and the devil lie to this person and the person belive that the only solution is suicide( being ignorant of the whole truth of who they are in Christ) is God gone let the devil win this soul by one more of his lies in a weak moment of a beliver. No, I don't think so. The only unperdonable sin is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Which means denying that we are siners and Christ died for our sins, so refusing his calling ( the Holy Spirit call) As the verses state above nothing else can separate us from the love of God. Can I get a amen? Love Suzana

Amen Elkie ROM 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) Love Suzana

Felix you wrote: The church has failed in this one below. JAS 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. There is no consequence for sining after becoming a member of the church at least I have not seen here in America( got saved in Brazil). UNSPOTTED this word mean take way the cause of the spot put them aside teach them repentance see fruits of repentance and invide them back into the body of Christ. But no nobody today want to go trough this. All the shame of being taken of the membership and confess his/her sin before the church. This is almost unthinkable in the church in America. But normal were I got saved. Very few churchs care for the orphans. My mother in law just became a widow and was sexually harrassed in her church by a diacono. The man apologyse but to this day still hold his position in the church. So it is not because of my preaching on grace that people live in sin. It is because the church has become week. I will still preach on grace and forgiviness. If anybody take advantage of this this is their problem. They have the word of God and the comamndments of God written in their hearts. They will recieve even worse punishment. If I stop talking about this unfailable plane of God and his forgivines it would be like a father that because he knows that some of his children vomit their food after dinner takes the food from all of them. Thus not waisting food no more. Love suzana

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Thanks for all your answers I posted on two other sites but I haven't recieved any answer yet. Hopefully they will respond also. I see you edited the site I placed in my question, sorry thought it would be a good idea to allow the people here to know what I was talking about. The way the uuc church works is they bring up an issue the church wishes to adress,then they form a group of people to talk about the issue, then it is taken to the church Council and if the Council takes it to the congreation to vote yes or no.This only the second week for us to discuss the issue.I know this will be a longer post than I usually place on these boards but it is neccesary because you don't know me so I have to tell youmore about this issue and hopefully you will learn about me. The first meeting was to discuss equal right marriages for all. That is how it was said from the leader of the forum. Unfornately I feel he has another agenda. Because the first answer to the question on the ONA we must deal withit first. Personally I didn't like the idea of going through the back door. I told the prresident of council that it needs to be announced that the subject was changed or I don't contiune in the forum. We will see they promised me they would. I felt verry lonely in that room, I was only one, so far that disagrees with the open and affirming question. Hopefully when the subject is anounced we will get others in that room, so we can have a better cross section of the church.I believe all people should be welcome in a church. I don't believe all should have the right to get married in the church, and I am speaking about GLB and Transgrender people. Although I not a congreational member and thereofre have no vote I am perrmitted to voice my beliefs thank God.I also attend worship services in the Lutheran Churchs. I believe that I can attend any church's worship service provided they Lift up The Lord Jesus. Should the Congretation vote in favor of the ONA policy I must leave. It will be hard,but necessary. Thanks again for all your help. Love in Christ littlejoe Hi,I read your explanation and feelt that the Bible has much more to say about sexual imorality at this church. If a person become a member of a church it is my understanding trough the scripture that the church should judge the ones inside. And this is for their own good so they may learn how to walk in this earth and give glory to God trough their living testimony. If a person can not commit to a Bible doctrined church the only alternative is for this person is to walk on their own. Only God can decided if this person is going to heaven or hell. My opinion is that if a person can not commit to Christ commandments and the church He has stabilish in this earth than is very unlikely that this person has been saved yet. 1 Corinthians 5:1-15 1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. Love Suzana

So if we feel guilt in our hearts for some action we have made does that mean it is just guilt and not conviction from the Holy Spirit that we have commited a sin against God?

ESV: (English Standard Version): "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is abomination." KJV: (King James Version): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". LB: (Living Bible): "Homosexuality is absolutely forbidden, for it is an enormous sin" Net Bible: "You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act." 1 NIV: (New International Version) "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." NLT: (New Living Translation): "Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin. RSV: (Revised Standard Version): "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination Leviticus 18:22 כב וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא. Leviticus 20:13 states: "If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they should surely be put to death....". Love Suzana.

This was how God answered my prayers about this question. If I could loose my salvation. I prayed for days and discussed with teachers in my church and christian friends and family members. Than God send a friend that spoke my own language ( Portuguese) so I would not misunderstand. She was a christian woman from my church here in Florida. She asked me this question: If you went to a orphanage and adopted a child and in the future this child did something that would really disapoint you terrible, would you than sent this child back to the orphanage and take back your name. My answer was no. Than my friend asked me if you as a human being which we know are capable of great evil and are corrupted can refuse to take back this child think about a the loving God we serve which His mercies renew every morning. From that day on I can not go back beliving that I could lose my salvation. The prodigal son was still a son while feeding the pigs, the word did not called him a pig but still a son. God is not a feeling, He is our father no matter if we feel his presence or not. The prodigal son did not feel his father near him but the love and the covenant between a son and a father was a fact. Salvation is fact. God will not left it up to you to finish it he will finish the good work he started in you not yourself. Love Suzana

From: Dictionary.com CULT A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. A system or community of religious worship and ritual. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. The object of such devotion. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest. Just to prove my point I picked, in my opinion, the most disturbing doctrine of the Watchtower Society: The Watchtower Society claims that only the 144,000 individuals (a figure arrived at from the pages of the Book of Revelation) can actually understand the Bible. It is an organizational book -- a book given to an organization and not to individuals. It can be interpreted and explained only by God's own designated organization, the Watchtower Society. The organization's interpretations and explanations are found on the pages of the Watchtower publications. If that is not a cult I don't know what it is anymore ! Love Suzana

There is a book in the Bible that does not contain the word God. Guess wich one it is and try to make me undestand it is beyond my comprehention Love Suzana

Hey I think we are going a little beyond from what this topic started. On this case scenario after 2 years of prayers the husband now agrees to pay thieths ( 10%). And does not include physical abuse neither is this husband a non beliver. I decided to write this jus to make it sure that everybody is on the same path. Love suzana

Jen Stewart If you know the word of God well enough you must agree with me in this, God is not double minded . But yes He has standarts to recive a person in heaven. And He alone can percieve the deep thought of man we can't. Also you must agree that there are people that will get baptised and never go to heaven. If you can agree with that why not agree also that the opose of could happen. Why denominations dear to put God into a box. Take His word and twist it to say that God can not do this or that. The only thing he can not do is lie . Here is an example of what I mean. I got baptized as soon as I could but if I had died in a car acident or a heart atack on the way to baptism would I go to hell because of it? Jesus said on Mark 16:16 "...he that beliveth not shal be damned..." I preached in Hospitals in Brasil to people that were close to die and some accepted Jesus and died days after without being able to get out of bed. Do you think that a loving and mercifull God would still take them to hell ?? This is not the God we serve . In other hand the same God says if you denie me in front of men I also will denie you in front of my father on that day. If a man is ashamed of fallowing Christ and avoid baptism at any cost, than I agree he deserves hell . LK 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. MK 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Well before he died he is accepting somebody in paradise but afterwards He just changed His mind. Could that be possible???? No! Maybe He was talking about the other baptism see in the verse below that all his disciples who heard Him saying this words were already baptized in water. MK 10:38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? MK 10:39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: Here Jesus talked with Nicodemus who just have asked Jesus how could an old man go back into his mother's womb and than come out again, correct! So Jesus uses that same type of language about a mother's womb and what it does when a person is born! The WATER is broken and the baby come out ( This is the first time a person is born). Than he said it must be born of the SPIRIT ( Which is when they are born in Christ), which is the second time a person can be born. I can say the same to you as you just quoted above. Please briefly let me know what you think about these verses and their context. Love Suzana