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    Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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  1. Post - Tribulation Purposelessness

    I removed some bickering. Please try to keep it clean.
  2. This one has pretty much ran its course I believe. Locking.
  3. An eternity in hell for being human?

    Enoch banned from the thread for this comment, which includes a personal attack.
  4. Recognizing Christmas

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  5. What exactly are the Seventh Day Adventists?

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  6. Celebrate Resistmas

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  7. It's an interesting thing to ponder. Mat 12:39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. The other is 16:4: Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah." And He left them and departed. Notice the context for both: Mat 16:1 Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. Mat 16:2 He answered and said to them, "When it is evening you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red'; Mat 16:3 and in the morning, 'It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." In both instances He was directly answering pharisees and scribes or sadducees. Luke also records an instance of Christ saying this: Luk 11:29 And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, "This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. Luke did not record whether this was in response to a question or not and it could either be a synoptic recording of one of the two mentions of it in Matthew or not. I think the big takeaway here is that the generation that saw all the signs is also the one that (mostly) rejected Christ. Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, Heb 2:3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him, Heb 2:4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will? This, to me, actually lines up quite well with Christ noting that a wicked and evil generation seeks a sign. Who were the seekers of the sign in Matthew? People who were trying to prove that Jesus was a liar, basically. They seemed to have been asking for a sign with the full expectation that He was incapable of providing one, it was probably more of a challenge than earnest seeking of truth. The writer of Hebrews here seems to be intimating, particularly if you go back to verse 3 and read forward, that the signs were for bearing witness to those who believe or (perhaps) would believe. The sign of Jonah, the only sign Christ said the wicked and adulterous generation would receive, seems to have been reserved for those who are rejecting what Christ was preaching, which was salvation (which is the main theological point made in verse 3, I believe).
  8. Ted and Enoch both banned from the topic.
  9. Banned from thread.
  10. Diaste banned from the thread for personal attacks and insults.
  11. When is the Sabbath?

    I did not come here to involve myself in the topic, only to explain to you why the thread is not being derailed. At this point you are derailing your own thread by discussing what other people are doing rather than discussing the topic itself. If you want to continue the thread, continue the thread, if not, we will lock it and everyone can move on.
  12. When is the Sabbath?

    They can carry on with the discussion as they see fit and, as I said earlier, I have seen nothing here that would qualify as derailing this thread. There is no reason for you to attempt to make people discuss exactly what you want them to discuss. That is not the intent of the forums here. If you see something that you believe to be derailing, then feel free to report it and we will look at it, however, if it is along the lines of what you have been concerned with thus far, it does not fit in with what we would typically act upon as derailing a thread. In fact, it is not even close.
  13. When is the Sabbath?

    We make decisions based on whether a thread is wildly being taken off course or not. For instance, if someone came in this thread and attempted to start a discussion about vladimir putin or perhaps the chicago bears, that would constitute derailing. Exploring different aspects that are related to the topic, even if indirectly, is totally allowed. If you do not wish to engage people doing that, then that is your prerogative as a member here. Simply put, if you don't like what people are discussing in the thread, then don't discuss it with them. Only engage on the specific parts that you wish to engage on.
  14. When is the Sabbath?

    Just to be clear. This is not your thread, this is a discussion thread on the forums. We do at times allow members who start threads to ask that they be closed, but that is not because they possess the "rights" to them or whatever. Ultimately we make those calls based on whether or not the thread has ran its course and the stated reason for closing it. Otherwise, people are indeed allowed to take topics in different directions. I have seen no evidence here of thread derailing or anything such as that. If you post a topic such as this, it is reasonable to expect people to discuss it and even debate it. We don't allow OPs to decide who or what can be discussed in any given thread.
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