Dimension

I was attending a charismatic church for a short time, when the youth of the church took a trip to Toronto for what I believe is the movement described above. Upon their return the youth experienced violent shaking, uncontrolable laughter, giggling and other such nonsense during our church service. The pastor was preaching a rather good sermon of repentence and obedience to God, but at the most compelling parts of the sermon, the hysterical verbalizations and gyrations of the youth rose to levels that drowned out the pastor's words. It was clear to me that the spirit affecting these youth was not from God. I had, at the time, recently watched a National Geographic special on Voodoo rituals, and the behavior of the youth more closely matched the behavior of those demon-possessed/influenced participants in those pagan rituals than anything from the Holy Spirit.

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No, I believe I was addressing Ephraim777.

Do you really think this is a moral country? Do you really believe you are truly free? This country left democracy very early in its history, converting to a republic (central government domination). It is now well on its way towards a totalitarian regime. Facial recognition scanning, airport scanners, video surveillance, satellite surveillance, unchecked FBI and CIA ability to spy on civilians given by the patriot act (ironically named), the merger of over 100 governmental agencies into a single office of homeland security, a never-ending war on terror undeclared by congress but allowing the government wartime powers, a power hungry atourney general, the ability to hold accused foreigners indefinitely and try them in a military court, the ability to call citizens accused of crimes "enemy combatants" and hold them indefinitely in a military institution without legal council or trial. It will only get worse from here, and if you don't think so after reading Revelation....

great essay. :thumb:

whoops, I misread. I wrote all of this long before anything you posted to the list, if that is what you mean. I just thought it paralleled your views.

I wrote it. What do you mean by "form?"

Part I.

The Coming Kingdom of the Antichrist is NOT a revived Roman Empire Revelation 17:9-13

your opinion.

true commentary. I felt the same. It had begun. It was the beginning of chaos.

actually, the america itself (politically) is more like greece/roman/british society mixed together, and not much like mediopersia. However, the false religious system goes back to the ancient mysteries of babylon/egypt. This would fit mystery babylon riding the back of the beast.

the other thing that fits this is that when Daniel wrote the prophecy of the four beasts to come, he was living in the empire of Babylon. This would mean the four beasts to come would match with your "medes/persians, greece, rome, and british/neobritish". the fourth terrible beast would, like the america dominated society of today, combine characteristics of babylon, greece, rome, and britain (which american-type society has).

well, if he claims he is the christ, he is not the antichrist, for the antichrist will not be revealed (make the claim to be the messiah) until the middle of the 7 year period, after the 7th trumpet. (See Daniel and Revelations)

as it says in the end times men will call good evil, and evil good. But God places a special woe upon men such as these. Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Belgium, by the way, had tried to bring several leaders to trial in its own courts. Now with the ICC, I believe one of the first cases, if not the first case, will be brought by Belgium or lawyers from Belgium against Sharon. I cannot understand from a secular basis, the worlds unproportional focus on deaths in Israel (what is it now...1400 dead Palestinians, mostly armed combatants). In the same time period there have been millions killed in wars in Africa. Where is the focus there? That is a much bigger human tragedy. I understand the emphasis from a spiritual basis. The armies of God and Satan are gathering for war, and the battlefield of the war will be Israel and the Mountain of God.