Annie52

That is so scary... I have thought many things of the catholic church over the past years.... Sorry to any and all catholics that might read this !!.. But, this just goes to show that what I thought is on the right path.... and they DO fit into prophecy, but NOT the way they think they do..... *sigh*..... sad, so very sad......

If I were ask to make *a call* on the *who* is ? I would have to say the Holy Spirit... Is that not the part of God that now lives with in each of His children? The one who guides, teaches and proclaims to us ? So, yes, in a sense it could be said it is *The Bride*, because if you notice , after the Bride is taken, all heck breaks loose on earth..... God lifts His love and puts down His wrath.... Full force and with no exceptions or favor....

A lot of people make the same claim about *Christianity*, they forget that *religon* is a whole other concept, thought and action.... Sorry, I see where some get the notions they have about *Christianity*.... History itself speaks LOUDLY .. To loudly for some to ignore... But, like I said, people forget to separate the issues when pointing the finger.... It is the *by force* concept certain *denominations* used that has caused MANY problems.... Just the way it is.... And the wishy washiness, if that is a word ?, of those of us who proclaim God's Word.... Are you really surprised at the out burst of a the many ??

I have been trying for some time to get people to see the meaning of the verse.... Discernment !!! We are to discern all things, rather of God or NOT of God.... It does not mean we sit behind the judges desk and bang the gaval, and say *guilty as charged*.... People have taken words and made new meanings to fit their own agenda.... I am blasted by un-believers as well as believers, young and old alike, for saying that.... I can't believe how many are so decieved.... People of all walks of life must make daily judgments, choices and discernments, I can't believe they put us in some kind of vortex of hate for doing the same thing.... *sigh*..... The verse of * judge least ye be judged* is the MOST abused one in Bible......

I too have *ran from places*, the problem is we run out of places to *run to*.... At some point in our life, walk, we have to stop..... Put on the breaks and say, *hey, where am I going ? and just who am I running from? * .... I found out, when I was running, I was running from my worst enemy, ME !!! I am just gong to say that..... I am *stopping* and let you decide if you want to hear more......

thanks for welcome, not sure what I am doing... NOT the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to this *chat* stuff.... Anyway, I sitll just don't get it ... I know what is to come, the how, the why and all that, but I am still NOT convinced that what people are thinking about America is the way it is or is going to be... I don't stick my head in the sand about the *end times* I just don't see them the same way I guess... and I sure am NOT going to give up or lose HOPE.... I posted before, my faith will NOT let me be any other way that I don't limit God and what He can do.... I know we are in Trouble, huge trouble, but I still KNOW there is hope..... One person on their knees in ernest and heart felt prayer can change the world, at least for a time.... *Shrug*, just the way my faith works...... *sigh*....

I am new to all this, this is my first reply so Hello all...... Though I agree with MOST of what you say, I must confess I don't think we are the hopeless case you make us out to be.... I don't limit God , I TRUST Him in every way possible, and when it comes to rather the USA will fall, get cut off at the knees or stand a little longer, I have HOPE that we will *stand a little longer*...... Long enough at least for those of us who do place our FULL trust in God, to change what we can through prayer.... I read a reply that says *prophecy says* this or that about America, I have studied the Bible from one end to the other, done many different studies over the years, and have NOT found one word about America .... Not one..... I would love to know where they get that from ???? My faith says, we stand a fighting chance through prayer...... My faith says , I am a Child of God and as such I do have the power of the Throne, as Jesus does, to stand firm against satan and fight this..... I am not nor have ever been, *into politics*, I pay little attention, maybe I should, but I don't, I simply PRAY for God's hand and guidiance in ALL matters of country, state, etc..... i think you and others are *dooms daying* America a tad early..... Yes, we are failing as a nation to keep God first, but as individuals with the Power of the Throne, we have the duty to stand firm and pray ..... Lot and his daughters are symbols of the *grace* God can and does show.... I refuse to give in or give up.......