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  1. douggg

    My latest chart

    @Abdicate Regarding the general approach to end times bible prophecy. All of end times bible prophecy has been presented to man in segments. Each segment only contains partial information. The segments may cover the entire 7 years, or maybe only half of the 7 years, or maybe prior to the 7 years and end of the 7 years. Daniel 7:19-27 , for example, is a segment, covers the little horn, his beginning and his end. But it doesn't mention the abomination of desolation, for example. Matthew 24:14-31 is another segment. It doesn't say anything though about the vial judgements, for example. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Wouldn't it be amiss, if someone said, for example, that Daniel 7:19-27 must take place before Matthew 24:14-31? Similarly, that's what you have done with the seals and the two witnesses. The seals in Revelation 6 are a segment of prophecy. They span the entire 7 years. They don't all have to be complete before the death of the two witnesses and their coming back to life. Neither do the trumpets. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Separately Revelation 11:3-11:13 is also segment. About the two witnesses. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Revelation 12:6-17 is also a segment. Addressing specifically Israel and the Jews. Those are just some examples. All of the end time bible prophecies have been presented that way to man - in segments. Within each segments there appears to be chronologically driven order given. But then we have to figure out how that information fits in conjunction with the information in the other segments.
  2. Two destruction of armies events. Gog/Magog, feast on Gog's army, Ezekiel 39:4 then the 7 years of Daniel 9:27 then the Armageddon feast on the dead, Ezekiel 39:17-20, executed by Jesus in Revelation 19:17-21. Jesus Himself speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, having returned to earth.
  3. Hi Justin, Ezekiel 39:7 refers back to Ezekiel 36:20. When the Jews were exiled into the nations, it was in effect profaning God's name because it made it look like the God of Israel was incapable of stopping it from happening. Ezekiel 36:20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. In the end times, in Ezekiel 38/39 the defeat of the huge force of Gog's army that comes against tiny Israel, will show that God does have the power to keep nations no matter what the size from overcoming Israel. So God's name will no longer be profaned among the heathen, unlike in Ezekiel 36:20, as appearing to be incapable to the heathen to control events like when the Jews went into exile, that He is God the Holy One in Israel. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ In Ezekiel 39:23 it goes on to say why the house of Israel went into exile among the heathen. It is actually Jesus Himself speaking in retrospect after returning to earth in Ezekiel 39:21. Ezekiel 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
  4. You are not reading what is written. John wrote what he was told about the two witnesses prophesying for 1260 days. Same for the 42 months of the Gentiles in verse 2. John did not see it himself. John it is assumed that he measured the temple. But the 42 months and the 1260 days John was told. The angel was speaking on behalf of God. John was told about two things. It doesn't say one follows the other. 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Why are you making that comment, anyway? Who here is saying that Revelation is not fact and true? Everyone here believes Revelation is fact and true. What you are insinuating that others do not, if they disagree with you. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ What translation are you using? Does it say in the text of your translation that John himself witnesses the two witnesses testifying 1260 days or in the text does it say the angel told him?
  5. The church age is the first three chapters of Revelation. The four horsemen are end times, specifically the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27. There is the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 left. Day 1185 is one day on that 7 year timeline. And is in the middle part of the week. irrational, and we have gone over this issue before. That makes no sense. You should do a chart similar to mine, and put all of your ideas in a form that connects everything.
  6. Regarding the rapture, 1Thessalonians5 is saying that the rapture begins before the Day of the Lord begins. 1Thessalonais5 - saying peace and safety - is not referring to Christians. But them who will be call off-guard. The ToD is time of the end, in the text of Daniel 8. Not referring to Antiochus. It is his soul that is cast out of hell. He is cast out of the grave, it is figuratively speaking about his soul. He will not be buried then exhumed and thrown in a pit.
  7. lamad, those are words, not a picture. You might could call those a diagram.
  8. Ten "nations" in Daniel 7 ? No it is ten kings. ten leaders. Of the fourth kingdom.
  9. What makes you think that is the abomination of desolation "set up". Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. And why is the person entering the temple, sitting, not "the transgression of desolation" ? After all it is a transgression, an act, not something "set up".
  10. douggg

    Peace Plan

    I just got through a brief reading about Israel September elections and why it had to be done for a record second time in a year. I think the American system is far superior to the parliamentary system.
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