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If by Torah you mean the Law, then no. The Law is righteous and good but it is not designed to make us righteous. Our practical righteousness comes from keeping in step with the Holy Spirit, not from a fleshly observance of the Law. Observing the Law is not of faith so it will never be accepted by God. Gal 3:12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them." It is an old covenant or way in which God dealt with man until our savior Jesus Christ came and met all it’s requirements on our behalf and ushered in this age or Covenant of grace in his own blood. We are now under the New Testament which is superior in every way imaginable.

While it is true that God had something similar to sadness at our fall, he knew we would fall and become wicked from the beginning. His plan of redemption was already to go before he ever created Adam. When talking about the almighty I don’t believe we ever need to have sympathy on him. Unlike us he actually did something about it and took part in our humanity. He experienced our weaknesses himself so now he can identify fully with us. Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

I don’t know if @Betha is using this distinction, but you are now a part of the new humanity in Christ. Jew and Gentiles merged in the Church. We are distinguished from Jew and Gentile. Eph 2:14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, Eph 2:15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 1Co 10:32 Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God— I’m always amazed and grateful to see a believing Jew. You are actually apart of a small remnant that believes today. The majority are blinded during this time of the Gentiles. Rom 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, You are apart of a small remnant that believes today. Before our Lord comes back and reestablish Israel.

We don’t know what God is doing behind the scenes. There was a time when I believed one way and my own mind was changed at a later date. Be prayerful.

So many great answers in this thread. I’m learning a lot. Praise God!

According to your interpretation there remains no more sacrifice for willful sin. (Which is wrong). Paul said Peter stood condemned because he previously ate with the Gentiles until a certain group came around. He clearly knew what he was doing.

Ok I will check your site out again. Brother I did get a good laugh when I saw it was all the same guys from here that hate OSAS. You guys feel like you are persecuted so bad that you needed a new site? Some of you even use words like this discussion grieves you. I don’t know brother. Lol

Paul called him out on it and said Peter knew better, but he was scared to offend a few Jewish big shots. Gal 2:11 When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. Gal 2:12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. Gal 2:13 The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

Oooh, I thought the Lord would not forgive willful sin, especially in light of your wrong interpretation of Hebrews 10:26. I do agree that they repented.

Lol I want to check that out. Maybe pm me a link. Our issues were mainly KJV onlyism. All the other issues are basically the same as you and I have.

Did David willfully have Bathsheba’s husband killed? Did Peter intentionally show racism against the Gentiles?

No, 1John 3 says we do not live in a lifestyle of sin. We do not perpetually sin as a lifestyle. You must know this if you rightly divide the word. In other words sin is not the norm for us, but we do sin.

Street preachers are so inspirational to me. I’ve seen them literally get punched and spit on, yet they stand tall for the Lord.

Context, the Children of the flesh represented by Ishmael are those who still seek to be under the Law. We who trust in Christ alone are the children of promise. It has absolutely nothing to do with antinomians abusing the grace of God. It’s also interesting that you see our disagreements as us persecuting you. That is very telling to me.

Then you are deceiving your own self . The Holy Spirit said this. 1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. You are not walking in God’s Holy light of fellowship if you claim you don’t sin. That light reveals our sinfulness which we then confess so he can take it away that our walk may be pure. If you deny this then you walk in darkness and are calling Christ a liar. walking in the light is not sinless perfection, it is walking in honesty before the Lord, confessing every sin whether willful or not. He promises to forgive and clean us whether that is daily, weekly, monthly, etc. The Holy Spirit made no such distinction.