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  1. Music is so subjective. I think we all know we should avoid songs with raunchy themes, and full of cursing. I like old Gospel hymns and I do listen to some secular music that has truthful messages. I listened to “Family Reunion” by the Ojays the other day. Such an amazing song and then his dialogue about the family structure at the end was great. I don’t like Christian hip hop but I know many Christians do.
  2. Repentance is a good thing, but we as believers are told to confess. He is the one who is faithful and righteous to clean us and forgive. This is not for salvation, this is for fellowship. Practical righteousness as opposed to Credited righteousness or Justification.
  3. How does any of what you just posted show that one can lose Salvation? Especially in light of the Lord saying different. Joh 10:3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. Joh 10:4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. Joh 10:5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." Our Lord said those that are his, he leads them and they will NEVER follow a stranger. Those that Apostisize follow others besides Christ. Christ said his own will never do that. How about this Joh 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. Joh 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. Again, speaking of his own our Lord speaks in absolutes. His own sheep listens to him, he knows them(as opposed to those whom he never knew) and they follow him(not another). He goes on to say these will NEVER perish. No possibility, and no one(not even satan) can snatch them away. It’s perfectly clear. A true sheep knows Christ and will not desire to leave him. Those that are false or spurious can leave anytime they want cause they are not his. How about at the very moment of faith? You heard the Gospel, you believed the Gospel, and immediately you were sealed until Christ comes back. Eph 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, Eph 1:14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory. You see how absolute these truths are? On the other hand, those on the perpetual insecurity side have to do acrobatics to try and prove that a true born one can be lost. “Well, you have free will so you can always walk away”. Not one single verse in scripture ever says this. God has said the exact opposite. “Things present, things to come”, angels, demons, no created thing, poverty...you name it, can ever separate us from him.
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    Imputed Guilt

    Ehh, I don’t know about that. We know our Lord is sinless, he did not deserve the death he received. We did. Scripture says he was made sin for us. Though men were guilty of condemning the Lord Jesus, it was God the Father who crushed him, and poured out the consequences of our sin on him. This explains our Lord asking if this cup could pass. It was to be a horrible initial experience for him, and one he had never actually gone through. 2Co 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. Isa 53:9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Isa 53:10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. His righteous life for our hateful, godless life. As far as Adam, we are condemned in him because he is our grandfather. It’s like if Christ said “in order to see my kingdom you must be an apple”. We on the other hand are oranges. You may be a nice upstanding orange, but you will perish because you are not an apple. In Adam we all perish whether you sin like him or not. His tree has been corrupted. You must be born again. Rom 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come. 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
  5. 🤢 wow. Reminds me of the KFC chicken sandwich that used two chicken patties instead of bread. It’s one of the craziest sandwiches I have ever seen.
  6. I heard good things about them. In my area I guess Five Guys is the best. I myself get my Burgers from Bob and Edith’s diner. It’s a local diner in Virginia that serves great food. IHOP is really good too. Their burgers are great.
  7. Yeah if you get to see the process it can be brutal. I saw my mom do in a chicken. Killing it, de-feather it, and cook it. 🤢 I couldn’t eat it. God allows it though, so it’s definitely not wrong or cruel. At one point he allowed animals to be substitutionary sacrifices for his people. I’m definitely against animal cruelty, but animals being processed for our food is a blessing from our Father.
  8. Pickles and mustard? 🤢 That seems like sour taste overload.
  9. Like most religionist she claims to respect Christ, just not as the only way to God. Fervent prayer on her behalf is the only thing that will work at this point. She has so much money, and influence that it is going to take a miracle from God to reach her. He can do it though. This thread actually influenced me to pray for her as I have honestly not really thought about it before.
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    I like some meatless foods like black bean burgers or tofu. The baptist did eat locusts and honey, so grasshoppers can’t be so bad. Lol I would love to transition from meat to full on vegetarian but meat is just too delicious to give up all together. With the religion of veganism spreading so rampantly it’s only a matter of time before everything is going to be meat substitute.
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    Lol they say snake tastes like chicken
  12. Brother I get it. I can read just like you can read. If you just throw away the Gospel, if you throw away Salvation by faith apart from works, I can see how you would interpret those verses to mean a Christian can die(the second death). We know that is impossible because Christ has freely given us Eternal Life. There is no verse in the Bible that ever says that he will take Eternal Life back. You must define what living according to the flesh means to understand Romans 8. It is not a Christian who sins. We have scripture for that. 1Jn 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1Jn 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us. You cannot sin away salvation. To have the mindset of the flesh is much more horrible. Scripture defines it like this. Rom 8:7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. That is not a Christian. He is talking of two universal principles, much the same way he talked of “laws” in Romans 7. “When I do good evil is present” , “Law in my members warring against my mind”etc. We who are believers are not governed by the flesh. Scripture says Rom 8:14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. “Those”, anyone of you who are led by the Spirit show yourselves to be genuine children of God. There is no either or, lose it today and get it back tomorrow. It says those who are led ARE the Children. Those governed by the flesh are not.
  13. I’m trying to explain this in the simplest terms. Yes we as Christians must daily put the deeds of the body to death. The mistake you are making is reading in terms of a prerequisite for Salvation. A few truths that should be established is our condemnation is not established on our battle with the flesh. It is our faith in Christ. Rom 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Rom 4:7 "Blessed are those whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Rom 4:8 Blessed is the one whose sin the Lord will never count against them." Joh 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. Joh 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. These fundamental truths must be established when interpreting the passages you are promoting to suggest a born one can be unsaved due to performance. You must read Romans 7 to get the full truth out of Romans 8. The believer struggling to live right, but doesn’t know how. Rom 7:15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. Rom 7:18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. He understands that his flesh(old nature) is completely corrupt. His new nature is completely righteous but not strong enough to subdue his flesh. This is why the 8th of Romans opens with “There is no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus”. The struggling Saint then learns that he has the Holy Spirit which gives him the power over the old nature. The statement “if you live after the flesh you shall die” is a universal truth, or principle. He’s not saying “look Christian, if your sins outweigh your good, you are going to die.” He’s saying anyone, whether professing Christian or whoever, if they live after the flesh(a mindset dominated by sin with no thought for God) show themselves to be in the flesh and therefore at odds with God. Rom 8:5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. Rom 8:6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. Rom 8:7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Rom 8:8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. You still think he’s talking about Christians? Watch him make the distinction. Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. Those who are in Christ is no longer in the realm of the flesh(old nature) to die. We are in the realm of The Holy Spirit and belong to Christ. We now have the power to put our old nature to death daily. That has no bearing on our righteous standing before God. Rom 3:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. Rom 3:22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, The statement, “if you live after the flesh you shall die” is not applicable to the Saint because he or she is no longer in that realm. To live after the flesh is a total disregard for God and his Holy Law. A mindset dedicated to this present world with no regards for God. With the inability to please God. A true believer could never do that. Even at his worst he could not be that. Rom 7:22 For in my inner being I delight in God's law;
  14. I could probably eat a mayonnaise sandwich by itself. I have to watch it or I will really over do it. Mayo is good on nearly everything.
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