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  1. I agree that you will see a change. 1John makes that very clear.
  2. Being Born again is instantaneous just like your natural birth. It is always spoken of past tense. 1Pe 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 1Pe 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, Jas 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created. As a new born babe in Christ you are to grow and mature. 1Pe 2:2 Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,
  3. A person is saved once they believe the truth of the Gospel. It is clear that these people had a false belief because their faith had no root, no sustaining power like we have. The scriptures speak of devils with a spurious type of belief. It is not a saving belief. Jas 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. You ask a Mormon do they believe in Jesus and they will tell you “sure, and he’s also the brother of satan and one of many gods”. Right belief is important. The Gospel according to the scriptures. The Judaizers obviously claimed to believe in Jesus, just with a couple additions that ruined the Gospel message. I’m curious as to what you think he meant by they had no root? He did not say they had root and lost it, he said basically they just sat on top of the soil and was scorched.
  4. They were not saved because they had no root. It was a surface belief. The root is Jesus. Rom 15:12 And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; in him the Gentiles will hope." Rev 5:5 Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals." Rev 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." How many times in my own personal life have I seen men come and go who professed that they believe in the Lord yet they fall away just as quick as they came. It’s interesting when you ask some people what they believe about Christ, you will find a spurious belief and not one grounded in truth.
  5. Ok, all I can give is scripture. If you stubbornly reject that there is nothing else I can do my friend. You have been answered sufficiently. God bless
  6. Lol come on now. Blasphemy though? I guarantee not one Christian on this board in their most sinful position has ever even thought of doing such a thing.
  7. It doesn’t have to. If you know the nature and office of the Holy Spirit towards the believer you would understand. He dwells with us forever, we can grieve him but he remains our seal, he is a deposit guaranteeing our salvation. 2Co 1:22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 2Co 5:5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. Eph 1:14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory. What do you think sealed and guarantee mean? Literally the Spirit himself is a guarantee of our salvation. Where does blasphemy fit?
  8. Lol again @Tampered With how is Romans 6 even relevant here? I’ve been saved for 30+ yrs and know full well that we must keep under our old nature. The fact is we have the power to do so. That doesn’t change the fact that as new creations in Christ we cannot go that far in sin. To blaspheme? Pure fantasy. We are sealed by the Spirit which is our guarantee of salvation. Give me an example of one of the saints blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
  9. No they don’t. A believer, even when he sins has a new nature that delights in God’s law. He might run from God in his own self guilt, but he would never go so far as to blaspheme God. You are misapplying those scriptures. None of the Apostles ever addressed that to the saints. Lol I don’t even think you read what I originally posted. The born again cannot sin to that extent.
  10. I’m not understanding your reason for this post. I’m not denying that blasphemy against the Spirit exists, or existed, In saying it is impossible for a saint to backslide so bad that he would do such a thing. The closest thing today would be those unsaved who continuously harden their hearts against God’s word and the Spirit until they are given over to believe the lie so they can be damed. 2Th 2:10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 2Th 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 2Th 2:12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
  11. No I’m not, he addressed the actual blasphemers. The Pharisees were attributing the work powered by the Holy Spirit to a devil. Then our Lord went on to address them. Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demon Arr you ignoring the fact that no born one can continue in sin?Christ himself protects him from doing so 1Jn 5:18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them.
  12. First, your question is coming from a position that has not been proven to happen. The Holy Spirit dwells with the Christian forever. He is the seal guaranteeing salvation. You cannot even grieve him away. Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Eph 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, Eph 1:14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory. 2Co 5:5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. Christ said he will dwell with us forever. Joh 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— No born again believer will go so far as to blaspheme The Holy Spirit as the new nature will not allow him to go that far. 1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 1Jn 5:4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 1Jn 5:18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them. “Anyone, everyone, no one”.Strong words that clearly teach not one single born again believer could do such a thing. We are all guaranteed to overcome and we are all not able to go but so far in sin. If a man blaspheme the Holy Spirit(which has much controversy on what that exactly is) he shows himself not to be of God in the first place because we follow the Spirit. We are the sons and daughters of God. Rom 8:14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. Rom 8:8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
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