Bible_Gazer

Thanks Marilyn, your reasoning about this mighty angel Just may be the Lord. The little book that John eats, he was told to prophesy it. I always leaned toward it just being the book of revelation. sweet and bitter news.

Revelation 10 = I have not read a discussion on this chapter, so what are the thoughts ? 1. who is the mighty angel, his feet on the sea and the earth ? 2. what is the little book ? 3. what is the seven thunders message ? yes it is sealed, but will it ever be opened, if so when ? 4. the mystery of God when is it to be finished ? is this just parts or all of Revelation ? 5. Time no longer ? what is this about ? 6. How does Revelation 10 fit in between the sixth and seventh trumpet time frame, even before the 2 witnesses Rev.11 ? You may have some questions, go ahead and add to this.

If Jesus is not the head of the body church, then it is some other head is ruling. The thing about a body group of people you look at the head and see who it is. Who is in authority of that group ? man's order or bible order

Here is something to consider about a last day, one of the last day was in Acts 2 event. Those scriptures used in John 6, could it really be referring to this ? Acts 2:16-18 (KJV) signs of the HG baptism 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: Ephesians 2:1 (KJV) 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Romans 6:4 (KJV) 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Colossians 2:12 (KJV) 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Romans 8:11 (KJV) 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Could this be what Jesus was referring to raising up people in their baptism to give them life Jesus did come with the holy spirit to dwell in them. Last days can be for different events. Satan will have his last day which is in Rev. 20

1 Corinthians 15:3-8 (KJV) 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. "the above five hundred brethren" you might think it was a special selection of people who got to see Jesus after the resurrection. It doesn't mention the women who saw him after his resurrection. So there could have been women with the above five hundred brethren. They weren't with the special 120 in the upper room. But most likely in the 3,000 that received the holy spirit. Sooo could the above five hundred be the Matthew 27 OT worthies resurrection group ? The OT saints did look for a resurrection, they lacked in coming short of the promise.Heb.11 Everybody has to have Jesus to make to heaven including the OT saints, so they would have to hear and except him, so when would that be ? Just a thought

Try another view #3

What will be the purpose of that 1,000 years ? You have all these righteous and unrighteous dying and people keep being born into the world. Those that die will they get a resurrection ?...…….. well there is a 2nd resurrection at the end, so that could be a yes ? Humm Then one day God says enough is enough, I got what I want.

Millennium eternity ???? but at the other end of the 1,000 years there is another system Gog and Magog nations that are Bad people and a another battle, some will not have eternity, some will die. These people existed inside the 1,000 year period. They are not righteous people, then how can there be peace on Earth at this time ? If some thinks this way. So what is the answer to this ? Isn't Armageddon suppose to take care of the problem, plus all the other calamities put together ?

So in chart #2 The so called Armageddon does not wipe out all the bad nations of the world. That will come at the end time of the world 1John 2:15-17 - at the end of the 1,000 year(millennium) Rev.20 1 John 2:15-17 (KJV) 15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Let us try a different view #2

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth So we have the Rev.13 beast ruling for 42 months - or 3 1/2 years. The earth Image beast rules for maybe the last 3 1/2 years which makes it 7 years ?? The other Beast in Rev. 17 rules for 1 hour = …………... The Red Dragon goes after the woman she is hid 3 1/2 years, war is at the end with the remnant. maybe the first part of the 7 year ??? The Four Horsemen = doesn't say when they start, as far as anything to do with the so call 7 years. ???

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth. The sixth seal - wrath is coming on the enemies of God Rev. 6 Rev.7:1 - the 4 winds to hurt the earth Rev.8 and 9 and 11 - the seven trumpets Rev.16 The seven vials Rev.14 The Angel with the sharp sickle gather the vine of the earth for the wrath of God's winepress Rev.17 Ten kings turn against the Harlot system, destroys her Rev.18:8 Babylon plagues come in one day and shall be burned with fire Rev.19 Jesus and his Armies war against the Beast , Kings, and false prophet cast into the lake of fire Rev.2:26-27 Overcomers rule with a rod of iron breaking down the nations Tinkering with the thinkers Can you figure all this out, when all this will happen the one after the others, to some it seem to be all in a short time span. There is a lot of individuals doing a lot of things - God, Angels, Satan, Overcomers, Jesus's armies, Beast, Kings, false prophet, The Horsemen

because I want what I want and they give it to their kids and they pass it on to their kids so now we have a bunch of fallen people. well there was some help from Satan This is what happen when given freedom to do what you want. So the righteous want to do the will of God, which requires discipline, but they love it because it is good. different kinds of people = wayside, stony, thorny, good ground.

1 Peter 4:18 (KJV) 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Well to be considered, Christian in this world is out numbered by the ungodly. Has been for along time. The sinners out number the righteous.

Ever consider that if there is a place called hell for the eternity living dead that they are going to be here with the righteous on the same planet earth. Wow, we will never be to far from them, just on a different level. That is if people holds to that hell is beneath scripturally. Prov.15:21 Rev.21:2-3 does say heaven is coming down to earth and Matt.5:5 says the meek shall inherit the earth. Hum ! There will be shouting of glory above and shouting of pain below. Just can't see it being that way.

well there seem to be many views Here is one I seem to have heard of. Matthew 23:15 (KJV) 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. This hell here would be the false religions. The proselyte went from one hell to another. One place it says and it seem to be related is "the gates of hell". This may be talking about those false religious gates.

4 different color horses 4 different kinds of riders Most likely the works of them are in different time frame. Most likely the riders are represented by the colors. But could it be by any chance that it could be of a certain group, that it has changed thru time. example - the church

Who is everyone ? There seem to be an elect that rules with Jesus during the Millennium Rev.20 to do a job. Rev.2:26-28 say an overcomer rules with a rod of iron breaking down the false nations. Rev.19 those in white linen(his bride or elect) riding with Jesus on white horses going against the Beast and Kings Seem to be an assignment to do something, when it is done there may be no need of a priest or ministry of that type to help save people . King has authority in governing Priest has authority in preaching salvation, handling God's words To me its a special calling or an elect group to do a special work, but does not need everyone to do it. Just a consideration

Well its just a thought that if God was restoring something thru the reformation, then something has fallen from the original . if the church has been progressing from the time the reformation started, then it must has fallen from the truth it once had. Paul said in 2Thess. that iniquity was already working in the church and he said in Acts 20 wolves would come in , he said in Galatians that someone preaching another gospel and Jesus The everlasting gospel angel is suppose to be taking place, so it does not seem to go away ever again until everyone is converted, which is another about 1,000 years away when everything is done.

Do you believe that the reformation was of God or of man ?

I don't think Angel can procreate, they were just created. never read about a woman angel I thought the evil angels lost the bodies and became evil spirits. Actually I only know of one who seem to still have his body, Satan himself.

Next verse they got baptized again and the next verse they got another different one.

Hebrews 11:13 (KJV) The OT worthies died 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Including Abraham v8 he was of the faithful John 3:13 (KJV) 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 11:25-26 (KJV) 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? Romans 14:8-9 (KJV) For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. Matthew 8:21-22 (KJV) interesting saying Jesus said 21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. God is the God to the living believers, not to those that are alive and dead to him.

spiritual birth liken unto natural birth Water and the blood fire to try the heart , endure the soul, purify the heart to complete a person in Christ.