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  1. 2 Corinthians 5:1-3 1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. Yes there is no need to bring back a body when and if you make it to heaven you will get a new body and not be naked without a body. If my body don't exist anymore in the grave and I am in heaven then why wouldn't God not give me that new body anyway, if he going to give me a new one anyway ? So the dead in Christ must be those who died and rose up to heaven like Stephen when they stoned him to death, but he saw Jesus before it happened, so Jesus must have been waiting to receive him just right after he died, so the dead in Christ rose first, but he was alive in Christ never to die as far as the inner man.
  2. 1 Samuel 31:8-12 8 And it came to pass on the morrow, when the Philistines came to strip the slain, that they found Saul and his three sons fallen in mount Gilboa. 9 And they cut off his head, and stripped off his armour, and sent into the land of the Philistines round about, to publish it in the house of their idols, and among the people. 10 And they put his armour in the house of Ashtaroth: and they fastened his body to the wall of Bethshan. 11 And when the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead heard of that which the Philistines had done to Saul; 12 All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there. 13 And they took their bones, and buried them under a tree at Jabesh, and fasted seven days.
  3. Well does he come again at the end of the 7,000 years, to come down to earth to dwell among men. Rev. 21 ?
  4. You can check this website for defending the KJV Bible Its has things on King James. http://jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/1611_authorized_king_james.htm
  5. Will there only be adults left here or will all the children and babies be lost during the tribulation ?
  6. Trinity is not oneness and oneness is not trinity. Trinity believes in three is one and oneness believe the same. Oneness believe there is one God and so does the trinity, even tho they may think 3 Gods but their is only One God. They both believe in three parts of one God, but really there is only one God of all. Yea or Nay
  7. Yes, God can be in us both in different places, its not his body that is in us but his spirit is, so seeing that the spirit is him. We have a part of God in us, the gift of the Holy Ghost. The spirit has not a mind of its own, it come from the mind of God. When God gives different kinds of spiritual gifts unto men, he uses his spirit in a different way to make those operations to work, God is in control of those gifts by his spirit. I am just saying is that God and his spirit is not separate, its still one being operating.
  8. Then again I agree God was in heaven and his spirit from him moved upon the waters. This spirit is God but not a separate being from him or another entity.
  9. I agree, Jesus was the other one with God. also agree God has a body. So God can only be in one place and he used his spirit to make and to move things for him, but that spirit does not have a mind of its own because it is just a spirit from him. You can't separate God's spirit from him, those two are one being. Jesus was separate from God even tho he came from God. Just as man came from God.
  10. So God is spirit and then there is another spirit from the spirit, this is what's being said. Why make another spirit when God is the spirit ? If God is everywhere because he is spirit, then what's the purpose of him creating another spirit, to be where he is not ?
  11. First resurrection to me is the first fruits from the earth in Rev. 14, they are the first to follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth. They rule and reign with Christ during the next 1,000 years. Revelation 2:26-28 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star.
  12. The one trouble I have with trinity is the spirit. They say that God is spirit, so we know God his holy, so that make him a holy spirit. Then the trinity is saying that there is another holy spirit from God, so why another spirit when God is that spirit ? They say they are the same, yet they gotta make a trinity for some reason. I know this does not hold true to all trinity belief, I know of one group that believe that the father has a body.
  13. No problem, God did make it all, but through whom did he do it with ? His son. Rev.21 in 1Cor. 15 Jesus turns everything over to the father that he be all in all when he was finished doing his part and is when everything is as God wants it. Rev.21 and 22 is showing down at the end when those thing are accomplished. 1 Corinthians 15:25-28 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
  14. You got it backward -- Jesus - The Son of God - "emptied himself" to become a man. Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Jesus did leave his heavenly body to go into his as he said before he entered his earthly body, that God prepared for him. Here is the thoughts - God cannot die, but Jesus did, it was more than just the body that died. Jesus did not come to save our body, what is the part of man that goes to heaven when he is saved, its the same part of Jesus when he died.
  15. So do you believe Jesus was God's first creation ? and the holy spirit is just God's spirit. If Jesus is from God, why can you not believe Jesus is a lessor God. A mighty God but not the Almighty God. The Father is greater than the son. Hebrews 1:8-9 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Jesus has a God to pray to, here he wanted him to save him from death - did Jesus wanted to save the body or was something else going to die ? God can't die. So Jesus must not have been the God Almighty
  16. So what was it called before trinity was created in the NT ? If so, In the OT then there were just two ? - God and the Holy Ghost or was it oneness ?
  17. Confusing statements Luke 22:42 Jesus said "Not my will but thine be be done" = 2 wills John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Holy Ghost is not consider in the God Head bodily = 1Cor.11:3 So there is 2 minds and 2 wills. .
  18. Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. How is this verse used and when is this used ? all mystery or parts ?
  19. and 17 My understanding is, the Iron Kingdom has stretch itself through a long period of time and is to be revived again in power. The Iron Kingdom is the 4th and it does not mention a 5th, its still the Iron Kingdom when it became weak being mix with the clay. This is when the ten toe kingdom developed and they did not stay together forever with the HRCC. So Daniel 2 the Iron Kingdom and Dan.7 4th beast and Rev.13 1st beast are the same and is history - 1,260 years on the Iron and clay 538 - 1798 HRCC Rev. 13 2nd beasts is the same in Rev. 17 beast, this still has Iron in it because it has been healed -revived. Now some of those country that use to be the ten kingdoms during the dark ages may be Islam now, then they may join in with the iron for the purpose of controlling Israel with in mind to destroy them. So the Iron Kingdom existed from Caesars to the HRCC and going up to our time. That's over 2,000 years. It was strong and it got weaker and then it got wounded and is going to be healed when the Ten kings in our time give its power to it. Its to be the last Kingdom against Israel, showing in Dan.2 the stone sets Israel free. No other Gentiles Kingdom will rule over Israel again.
  20. We have OT history how God dealt with Israel. He caused the heathen to come against them, in hope they would turn to him. Mostly generally troubles brings a prayer for help, when it gets serious they will do anything to survive. God has and will again raise up and allow the adversary the Devil to stir the minds of the people. Its seems the love of God isn't enough. Just a thought.
  21. Interesting, does it read that the person that is sick is asking for prayer from the elder(minister). Seem like confession is to be made first, then the elder could by the oil showing a sign to others the person has made it right in their sins and then they can now pray for him. 1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. I also see it that the oil is not the healing power, its the prayer in this case. The one in Mark, I think the oil did represent the Holy Spirit blessing. Any thoughts on this ?
  22. I do think most all of Matt 24 is about Israel destruction in 70 AD The other stuff to me is all history during the dark ages. Rev. 13 first beast is history it ruled during the dark ages, but not the one hour eighth beast.
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