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Believer.Evermore

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  1. My apologies and thank you for the information. I'll be more careful in the future. My point is that both men and women dressed more or less the same in biblical times except for the adornment of their garments. A man's clothing was readily distinguishable from that of a woman. My opinion, as given, stands, as it is not derived from whatever that site may have to say on the subject (which I have not seen). The descriptions of men's and women's apparel given there match others, from different sites. I used them as a source only because they seemed to present those descriptions in a more precise and brief manner. Again, thanks for the tip. I'll steer clear of them.
  2. In my humble opinion God created each gender to fulfill very specific roles. Though our roles are different they are both of equal value and importance to His plan. He does not condone even the appearance of these roles being switched or shared to a great extent. In His wisdom He knows that once the appearance of role switching, or any deviance from His plan, becomes acceptable, to us, it won't take much for the actual act to do likewise.
  3. The word "subtil" is the english translation of the hebrew word " `aruwm " which comes from the root word " `aram " which means to to be cunning (usually in a bad sense):--X very, beware, take crafty (counsel), be prudent, deal subtilly. Interestingly, the word "naked" is the english translation of the hebrew word " `eyrom " which also comes from the root word " `aram ". Nakedness is evil, for the sight of it leads to carnal desire and carnal desire to sexual activity for its own sake. God created the sexes, male and female, primarily for the pupose of procreation (Gen 1:28 "...Be fruitful, and multiply....." The pleasures of sexual activity are intended as a bonus, an added incentive only. Once their eyes were opened, by the eating of the fruit, they realized that they had been sinning, for they had been having sex with each other only to satisfy their own sefish desires, only for the pleasure of it, and not for the pupose for which God had designed. They were ashamed of their sin and clothed themselves, albeit clumsily, to conceal what they now knew to be the ultimate source of that sin: carnal desire. On top of all that, they knew that they had sinned even further by disobeying the one and only commandment God had given them. No longer innocent, they became crafty, cunning, prudent, and subtle; like the serpent.
  4. While the points made by all thus far are very well taken and true and can be illustrated in more than one book or verse, I think that John 6:20 has a much simpler explanation when taken in context with verses 18-21 and supplemented by John 10:4-5. John 6:18-21 18 And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew. 19 So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid. 20 But he saith unto them, It is I; be not afraid. 21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went. John 10:4-5 4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. The sea had risen and a great wind blew. A storm was brewing. This alone would have set the apostles on edge. Then, in the distance, they see something that they have never seen before. Through the darkness of the night and the wind swept spray of the sea they see a figure of a man approaching them on the water; walking on the water, still too far away to recognize by sight. I can imagine them thinking, "Who is this? Is this the Lord? Or, perhaps one of His angels come to save us from the storm? Or is this perhaps a demon or the devil himself come to destroy us?" Their angst at not knowing would quickly turn to fear, for their faith in God was not yet perfect and they knew it. To allay their fears Jesus calls out to them, "It is I. Be not afraid." Notice that He doesn't say, "It is I 'Jesus," but just "It is I," for they are His sheep and they know His voice. Yes, the Good Shepherd watches over His sheep. He comforts and protects us.  
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