Barabbas

This of course is not the first time America tried to subjugate Canadians. http://www.canadahistory.com/sections/eras/revolution/Attack%20on%20Quebec.html So the claims by Americans that it was primarily Impression Issues for the second invasion (1812) sound very hollow.

as I stated in a different thread, I don't really have a good answer. I personally believe it falls between "don't touch my gun" side and the "all guns are evil" side. I do not think banning all guns are the answer nor do I think that more guns are the answer. As stated above, the problem is not the guns, it is the culture. How do we change the culture? Seems that Jesus is able to do that, perhaps the response to such things as this should include God as well as buying more guns...just a thought. So, the squishy undecided, middle it is. Carry on then. I'm done with this. I'll just stay armed, and a lot safer than the sheep who will be left defenseless from the liberal elites, and their armed guards.

Again, The American congress declared war against England with the Impression Issue as the reason given. Another reason was their need to totally expel England from the remaining land still under English domain in North America. They wanted to totally erase the remaining bastion of their mother country and attach these lands as new states of America. The impression issue was an excuse, nothing more. It was Upper, and Lower Canada at the time. Are you putting forth the idea it was only because we were English as an excuse for attacking my country? Curious. "Childish" comes to mind. Do we have to put up with these continuous troll tactics?

Well, would you look at that... http://www.cnbc.com/id/100325110 What was that about democracy being two wolves, and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty being a well armed sheep contesting the vote.

Yeah, like I said, I prefer a reading from a source not from the aggressor in this case. The American congress declared war against England with the Impression Issue as the reason given. Another reason was their need to totally expel England from the remaining land still under English domain in North America. They wanted to totally erase the remaining bastion of their mother country and attach these lands as new states of America. The impression issue was an excuse, nothing more.

RunningGator- Once again....What exactly is your "common sense" approach?

I didn't realize the American psyche was that fragile that pointing out historical events would make you so upset. I'm sorry your people killed my people. We'll try not to let it happen again. You have real enemies out there, not me, although judging from the guilt/paranoia (perceived of course) they're probably under your bed...RIGHT NOW No, your attitude is coming across like an 8-year old making mockery faces and saying, "Nany-nany boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo." If this is the way you choose to converse, then I have no more desire to speak with you. And if you respond to this with even more mockery and taunting, you will only confirm my opinion of your maturity. So go ahead and make yourself feel exalted by belittling me. I pray one day you will learn how to love. Why can't you respond to my questions without playing the victim card? First I'm too "aggressive", then I'm too "mocking". My descriptions of actual events troubles you to much, I try to lighten it up, and I get "nany-boo-boo"????? WhatThe.....???? If you don't have an argument, fine. Just stop the drama queen play.

It is part of their culture. They have a much higher sense of honor and duty than we have in this country. Sadly many of them take this too far and instead of being what they view as a burden or a hardship on others they choose another route. what does this have to do with the topic? why are you trying to change the subject? So, gun violence is a cultural problem because we don't have a sense of duty and honor any more? Thanks for making my point. Guns aren't the problem, our culture is. Perfect.

so, does gun control work in Japan or not? a simple yes or no will suffice No it does not, as there are so many other factors involved that you ignore, which we have already stated. People are still killed with guns in Japan aren't they? Once again....What exactly is your "common sense" approach?

With your coming economy crash you'll be lucky to have a place to live, forget about vacations.

@RunningGator Nice cherry picking of the evidence. 2 states, c'mon. Include the top ten for homicides, then lets talk. again, I was not comparing the two, I was giving an example of a gun control system that works, something that was said not to Wrong, you cherry pick, and completely ignore what was said about Japan's culture. Fail. What exactly is your "common sense" approach?

@nebula The American congress declared war against England with the Impression Issue as the reason given. Another reason was their need to totally expel England from the remaining land still under English domain in North America. They wanted to totally erase the remaining bastion of their mother country and attach these lands as new states of America. Your American summery make work for you, but I prefer one not written by the aggressor in this war. Hoo-boy. First of all, Barabbas, the War of 1812 is not relevant to the American Revolution, thus a red herring to this debate. Secondly, is that what you were taught about the war? Yikes. Thirdly, you say this as if you are holding a grudge against us. Why does it bother you so? First, it is very relevant to this discussion pertaining the American revolution for the very reasons I have ready stated. Explain, please, because I fail to grasp your train of thought. Read it again. those on this thread who claim God's hand directed America's forming how this violent expansionist policy of subjugation is reconciled. Considering you broke away from England due to perceived wrongs, turn around and immediately begin to force your will upon us. I didn't realize the American psyche was that fragile that pointing out historical events would make you so upset. I'm sorry your people killed my people. We'll try not to let it happen again. You have real enemies out there, not me, although judging from the guilt/paranoia (perceived of course) they're probably under your bed...RIGHT NOW

@GoldenEagle At no time did I ever claim any living American did any of these things. I was merely pointing out historical facts from my countries perspective. If it seemed "aggressive" it was only to highlight the actions of American soldiers invading my country. I described the killing of our citizens, and the burning of our towns by American soldiers in an expansionist foreign policy. Sorry, if merely describing a historical event is so troubling to the Americans here. Think about that next time someone mentions "American exceptionalism". Keeping this in context, the Revolution thread contains various support for the killing of British soldiers acting on the lawful orders of the king. As one who is of British heritage, this could be perceived as "aggressive" considering it was my ancestors they were killing. Look, I was smiling when I typed that.

A specious argument. You ignore the fact that Japan is an Island, with a xenophobic population, and a very different culture than America's. There is no comparison to be made here. America has guns. you're not going to stop that. Answer me this- does prohibition work? Consider that for your position. This case is about metal illness, not guns. The evil, and the lunatics care not one whit for your laws, they will only serve to disarm innocent people who will be victims of those who will ignore your illogical approach to this problem, of evil, not guns. Why do all the states with severe gun control laws have such horrific gun violence? What do you propose is the solution then?

Read the threads, if you have a counter argument for anything I've said, please present it. I'm not holding your hand on this one.