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  1. Last 4 digits of my old phone number lol.
  2. Of course you know one purpose of our Chistian journey is to build character and how is that going to happen if we don't have battles? Everyone has an inroad where God allows Satan to buffet us. Sounds like you just shared yours. I think an upside is to see this as an opportunity rather than a problem.
  3. First off they are virgins (christian). The five wise were sealed in into the day of their 'redemption' the five foolish are saved through the judgement. The Bride does not go to the judgement, as Paul says 'dont you know we will judge men and angels' you can't be a judge and be judged at the same time... The oil is of course the Holy Spirit, there is a difference between the anointing of the spirit and to be sealed. Scripture also says 'then let those that are righteous be righteous still and those that are filthy be filthy still'. Once the Bride is gone and the Holy Spirit ceases to dwell on earth to convict man - then that is the time the foolish virgins will stay where they are and will rise in the second resurrection for the judgement. This is a good topic but a big one, more than can be done at this time. Scripture is perfect and everything fits.
  4. A lot of good responses here. I agree that all religions are man made and the only real one is the one in Him. I believe the problem is that when God delivers a truth people hold up the gift instead of the Giver and since they are the ones 'holding' it they assume the position of judge (denominational 'I'm in you're out' spirit). By natural birth, being in a finite fallen condition, we look 'unto' which implies discernment and we tend to gravitate in the direction of our sense experience/intellect. It is only the Lord that can keep us on the straight and narrow.
  5. Hello Shane Sounds like a worthy pursuit. So you have grown up in a Christian family and heard it all but you want some laboratory proof. I agree that one religion may be as good as another. Some may be more adept at stimulating the senses others find their strength in binding their members by one means or another but then of course you are looking for some proof that transcends all of that - but still touches the senses? Perhaps the proof you are looking for cannot be taken but must be given and if it is given then it must come by the chosen way of the Giver. I believe if we can really yield our self (that being the catch) then the Word says He is more willing to give than we are to receive. You also say you would like to know how exactly the Holy Spirit is instrumental to intellectual belief outside of faith. I would rather have faith then things will happen, my intellect will stay in the ground. (There is an intelligence on the other side but not one that is tied to our biological makeup.) His Word requires believing more than explaining. I would also like to say that God isn't hidden we just have to have eyes to see. You know the story of the Syrophenician woman - she seen the Pharisees did not.
  6. Let me ask you this. Is the love for your father, mother and children going to save you? I believe love is an attribute of God. I believe the love that Jesus is referring to here is of a higher order, being part of Him. A possession rather than a response. Surely we don't want to put the gift before the giver If we have God in us we do His bidding and we even reap the fringe benfits such as long life.
  7. I believe there is a lot of trueth in what you say because we were created to worship - thereby the many religions. If we say we are not religious we are only fooling ourselves because we all worship something be it material goods our intellect, popularity etc. As for our churchs and their rules they may be just fine but we know that these things will all fail and stay in the ground - only God is the giver of life. We can be religious and spiritual but that 'spiritual' has to line up with the Word or it isn't God's Spirit. Scripture says that if we seek Him with all our heart He will reveal Himself to us.
  8. The short answer: I think it is only proper for the groom to propose to the bride. I believe the natural types the spiritual and God has an order. He is the groom and we are the bride - He chose us. Living according to the Spirit's leading is a higher calling and not goverened by cultural or current trends. God does not change with the times. I have seen it and experienced it that the Spirit always acts the same. When a person has a conversion experience irregardless of race and color the result is always the same. We are only fooling ourselves if we claim to be Christians and then go our own way - 'the broad way'.
  9. 2404

    Help required.

    Good Morning to you 83 that is amazing. You are an inspiration... The Word never gets old. Fresh every day because it is our bread. God bless you my friend.
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    Hello Edwin How does this sound? Adam came by the Spoken Word and was therefore perfect. He knowingly entered into the transgression for the love of his wife but was not able to redeem her as Christ did His bride. What Adam did is a type of Jesus Christ's descension. Eve's transgression has to do with the ushering in of life, from the perfect to the permissive, therefore if she is faithfull in her assigned position (living by the Word) in the fallen condition she shall be saved.
  11. Yes, I expect we are at odds. I enjoyed the reading and I suppose I should have let it go at that.
  12. Does The rain falls on the just and unjust. & Many are called but few are choosen. Have room in the mix?
  13. There is something as God's permissive will and due to our human nature we might strive for it but 'God grant me grace to be settled on His perfect will'. I think if we find our self begging we are a little off base. God's mind doesn't need changing, I am the one that needs to be adjusting. If I can walk in His Word then there is no question - I already have it - though it may not yet be realized. I think begging, as Other One noted, is usually associated with self perceived shortfalls.
  14. 2404

    Twister

    Alright Of course if you have infinitely large than you also have to have infinitely small.
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    Twister

    Why does God's creation have to be finite? another one of those maddening questions...... you see where this can lead to.... OK What ever has a beginning also has to have an end, at some point. The only thing that is eternal is God. If God's dwells in us then we have eternal life.
  16. 2404

    Twister

    Thought maybe I could take somebody with me. :-)
  17. If space (dimension) is a creation then it is finite. What is there outside of space?
  18. Hello Roy Sounds to me like your heart is right but that you are getting hung up on reformation. Reformation is alright but I think what you are really after is sanctification. The scriptural process is Justification, Sanctification and then the Sealing. As I understand it the only real sin is unbelief for if we are believers everything else will follow. My suggestion is to stop beating yourself up, commit your ways whole heartedly to the Lord and find a good bible believing fellowship and stay there and let the Lord look after things. What you can do is feed on the Word faithfully come rain or shine.
  19. I appreciate our law and order, though it is flawed it is still better than most. I think the key point here is the acknowledgement that church and state do not mix. We know that this world is not redeemable - so let the dead bury the dead. Jesus said to put away the sword because this is not His kingdom. We can pose a lot of 'what - ifs' but this makes the scripture of non effect because God is omniscient and omnipotent and He cares for His children.
  20. In the OT it is under the law. It was a looking unto. The atonement had not yet been applied. Therefore eye for eye was just. Once the atonment has been applied 'by grace we receive' so no one is justified in pointing fingers and certainly as Christian we do not have a right to take someones life.
  21. I am with you on that. I suppose in our condition it is juvenile to ask why. Looking back it seems a few simple turns could have put a person on easy street, but then that doesn't build character and of course Christ likeness is what it is all about. Scripture says that our trials are more precious than gold - but it is not so easily realized on this side.
  22. Faith is an interesting thing. It is not an intellectual conception, you can not work your self into it, it has to be given. The classic example; All Israel knew that God could deliver them but only David had the revelation that God would. We know that faith cometh by hearing the Word of God so the best that I know it to stay right there until. As it has been said, 'take the adopted baby until the real one comes'. Same applies for healing 'by His stripes we are healed' - we need to confess that no matter what, for God can not lie. He said 'do you believe? He did not say 'did you feel it'?
  23. Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement? St.John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. What is your understanding of this verse? that would be a good thread to ponder over but I fail to see how it fits into this thread.... what am I missing? From the perspective of the Word being the tree of life and the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil being the eating from another source.
  24. Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement? St.John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. What is your understanding of this verse?
  25. Hello Jerry. I would like to state my opinion in response to your post. Just as you are your earthly father's son, you may be a good son or a not so good son but you are a son none the less. If we are born of God He will straighten all things out and we will hear His voice when He calls. You referred to 'a righteous person' of course we have no righteousness within our self but if we are a Christian we are clothed with His righteousness and with Him being omniscient He does things with purpose knowing we will respond accordingly to His mercies. So depending on where we are in our walk, 'justification / sanctification / or sealed and put into service' it will be demonstrated in our behavior. For the short answer: We don't do to become a Christian but because we are a Christian we do.
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