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  1. Haven't been here in a while...

    Can I interject here and let's take the evolution vs creation as a seperate thread, as to not derail this current thread (correcting my mistake for getting a bit off subject).
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    We know that evolution is a man-made, Satan inspired idea that is not true. Every day the evidence keeps presenting itself. We know that evolution is false with the same amount of certainty that we know that the sun is a star created in a snap by GOD and that microorganisms can cause diseases or cure them as GOD sees fit to reveal to us in the form of knowledge. I realize that the acceptance of this knowledge is deeply ingrained in the mind of those who do not believe the Truth as it is contained in Scripture, such as those who belong to the "New Age" church, but the TRUTH has been defined as that which doesn't go away if you stop believing in the inerrency of the Bible. Evolution isn't an idea created by Satan, it explains how God created us. There is a mountain of evidence that supports evolution. Not trying to be mean, but I don't get why people won't explore the natural world with the brains that God gave us.
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    So you believe in God but you don't believe He created heaven and earth, or that He created man? I believe that He did, just not in the way the Bible says (I believe he created the Universe through the Big Bang, and us through evolution). I just want to inject into this discussion that the idea of guided evolution mentioned here is esoteric and not shared by anyone active in the field of evolutionary biology. I understand that it is tempting to create hybrid ideologies which on the one hand keep their roots in religious traditions while also embracing the knowledge that the scientific method has brought us, but at the very core of evolution by natural selection are random genetic mutations that may or may not prove adaptive to a group of organisms. The evolved ability to digest dairy past infancy illustrates this well. Most people of European descent share the mutation that makes this possible while most Asian people do not simply because they are descendants of a group of humans in which this mutation did not occur. Port There doesn't have to be a vs between science and religion. Evolution is change over time, and random mutations doew t make evolution false. I think that you may have misunderstood my comment. So, to clarify; you mentioned that you think God used evolution to create homo sapiens and, presumably, all the other creatures that populate this planet. This would include Yersinia Pestis, the plague bacillus that killed 500 million people in the 20th century alone, fire ants and the ichneumon wasp, which has a reproductive cycle so capricious and revolting that it can make an avid horror movie devotee lose his appetite. This idea, that of an evolutionary process guided by a deity whose chief aim is to produce the wonder that is us, is not subscribed to by any respectable scientist active in the field. The whole concept that these mutations are not random but are the (wholly) mysterious tinkering of an unseen hand goes against the very core of what is understood of the evolutionary process. We know that evolution is true. We have known this for over 150 years. Every year the evidence keeps piling on. Every single fossil that is discovered always shows up exactly in the correct strata. We know that evolution is true with the same amount of certainty that we know our sun is a star or that microorganisms can cause diseases. I realize that the acceptance of this knowledge is deeply upsetting to some people with religious enthusiasms, most notably devout Muslims and Christians. But truth has been defined as that which doesn't go away if you stop believing in it. Even though it is tempting to merge conflicting ideas, it has to be said that this is not intellectually honest. One can not haves his religious cake and eat it too. You are more than welcome to ignore an ever rising mountain of scientific evidence and pretend to be more knowledgeable than the people who actually study this matter and made it their lives' work, or you can accept the fact of evolution as all educated, un-biased people do, but you can not do both. Port You... Do realize that I accept evolution to be true right? I just basically said I am a theistic evolutionist, while misunderstanding your comment too, I guess. Also, I have also fully regained my faith in the Lord tonight, and had something similar to a salvation experience (still debating on if I'll be a Carholic, or move to a non-denominational church after I move out after college).
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    So you believe in God but you don't believe He created heaven and earth, or that He created man? I believe that He did, just not in the way the Bible says (I believe he created the Universe through the Big Bang, and us through evolution). I just want to inject into this discussion that the idea of guided evolution mentioned here is esoteric and not shared by anyone active in the field of evolutionary biology. I understand that it is tempting to create hybrid ideologies which on the one hand keep their roots in religious traditions while also embracing the knowledge that the scientific method has brought us, but at the very core of evolution by natural selection are random genetic mutations that may or may not prove adaptive to a group of organisms. The evolved ability to digest dairy past infancy illustrates this well. Most people of European descent share the mutation that makes this possible while most Asian people do not simply because they are descendants of a group of humans in which this mutation did not occur. Port There doesn't have to be a vs between science and religion. Evolution is change over time, and random mutations doew t make evolution false.
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    I'll try to do that! Thanks! The time that I think I could do that would most likely be in the mornings before I take off for school.
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    For me, it's that they're Christ's own words and teachings Are you going to answer my question, post # 22? Sorry about that, I've been busy with work/school. And I have answered yes to all of those questions in the past, and still say yes to them today, though I've had my doubts before.
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    For me, it's that they're Christ's own words and teachings
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    I'll be ready to take on the steps anytime that I can, maybe even setting aside time to study Scripture after I'm done with my homework, and in the morning before I drive to my classes. Faith is extremely complicated. If you have an mp3 player in your car, you might download the bible and listen to it while you are on the way to school.... I did this at my work and listened to the new testament a couple of hundred times over 20 years and the whole Bible a dozen. I do have an IPod, but not something that I can plug it into my car and listen to (that's a bit expensive at the store I work at, and I usually don't like to spend stuff over 20 bucks, unless it's gas, but that can't be helped lol)
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    I'll be ready to take on the steps anytime that I can, maybe even setting aside time to study Scripture after I'm done with my homework, and in the morning before I drive to my classes. Faith is extremely complicated.
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    It's all so very complicated. I haven't had much time to think about this over the past couple of weeks (work, and then I just started freshmen year of college last week). I still need to sort things out, and I'm constantly battling with myself over what I am spiritually. I mean, I have most of my core values and ethics already in place, it's just the spiritual and religious things I need to sort out.
  11. Haven't been here in a while...

    Consider what is essential. That came from Paul, not from Christ. I say John 3:16 is a better start.
  12. Militant atheists

    But you do not believe in the bible right? Believing in the Bible does not determine if one is a Christian. Believing in Christ is. Why do you ignore my comment, and take something else that I said elsewhere here, and add that to the discussion?
  13. Haven't been here in a while...

    So you believe in God but you don't believe He created heaven and earth, or that He created man? I believe that He did, just not in the way the Bible says (I believe he created the Universe through the Big Bang, and us through evolution).
  14. can you believe whatever you want?

    What proof do you have for your assertion, seeing that you do not believe in the bible? How can you believe in God if you do not believe in the bible? Uh.. I can. I believe in God through my life experiences, and don't believe the Bible because well, there's not a lot of evidence supporting the Bible is right and well, wholly good (I.e the Flood, creation account, the numerous genocides in the OT, Paul and Revolution are major factors). Though I do believe in the Gospels, which is why I too believe in Christ, and I believe the only requirement to be a Christian is believing in Christ as your personal savior.
  15. can you believe whatever you want?

    I am a theistic evolutionist, believing that God created us through evolution.
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