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  1. I love science and in fact am a Clinical Trial assistant (got 90s in Biochem) and scientists to me (though exciting and interesting) is like being a tiny speck being inside a box only able to discern things in the box and only as able as their perceptual faculties and instrumentation allows. As for as even coming close to exploring or commenting on what happened outside the box, who made the box, or how the box came about they are inept at best. Science can only deal with the materiality and forces within the box (what we call nature) the super or supra natural is outside of their ability. Brother Paul
  2. Yes! These scriptures do not teach we inherit sin but that we all will sin (and thus be justified in condemnation without Christ), however I would like to point out the eisegesis (as opposed to exegesis) of Psalm 51:5, which Psalm grammatically only indicates David's parents iniquity and says nothing at all about his being born iniquitous himself. It is uses the incorrect way to only support a preconceived doctrine regarding one idea about the original sin but it is not good Biblical scholarship to twist or re-interpret a plain rendering to make a scripture appear to agree with our doctrine. The UPC does this with Acts 2:38 and the Christian Science people with Mark 11:23 and the Church of Christ with Mark 16:16 which does not actually say you must be Baptized to be saved (but I do believe any who are saved would want to be Baptized and that it is important just not specifically salvic). The Bible says (and other places) Job 10:8, “Your hands shaped me and made me.” In Psalm 139, he wrote, “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise you; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are your works; and that my soul knows right well.” Psalm 199:3, “Know ye that the Lord is God; it is He that has made us, and not we ourselves. Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Isaiah 42:5 Thus says God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which comes out of it; he that gives breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk in it. Isaiah 57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. Zech.12:1 This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him. So the scriptures establish that it is God who makes, creates, the spirit in a person when they are formed. Are we saying that God creates dead spirits in people? Condemned souls are what He forms in unborn infants? Evil, despicable people, guilty and judged who have not yet sinned? Then how is it that children are called the heritage of the Lord and how is the man blessed whose quiver is full??? He is blessed by pro-creating little devils? The living dead are the heritage of the Lord? Paul says that before the Law, there is no transgression and 1 John 3:4 tells us that “sin” is a transgression of the law. Now granted since Adam we are all born with a nature that will sin…and all have sinned…but we are not judged worthy of spiritual death until WE sin…the Bible is clear in the law and the prophets that God does not hold the sins of the fathers against the children (is not Adam one of our fathers?). No we do not inherit condemnation (pay for the guilt of Adam) we inherit physical death but spiritual death is not made sure until the judgment. If we die without our names being written in the book of life and we are thrown into the lake of fire…THIS is the SECOND death… The soul that sins IT must die and babies have not sinned…now perhaps we can conclude there is an age of accountability but the being born spiritually dead thing is not taking into account the whole council of God (it is a misnomer following on the heels of the modern belief of ”Total” depravity,which is interpreted as absolute incapability, which again must either eliminate, ignore, or re-interpret well over 50 Biblical passages…not a good idea IMO… In His love Brother Paul
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