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In my opinion, the scriptures in Revelation 12, 13, 17, 18, etc.....are all about AMERICA; the place which John called "BABYLON THE GREAT".

I've studied Daniel thoroughly, and I came to the conclusion a long time ago that that end-time nation at the center of his prophecies is the same nation John described as BABYLON THE GREAT in Revelation. That nation, without a doubt, is AMERICA. Daniel described that nation as that of "a little horn that waxed exceeding great." And he described the people who founded and established it as, "the ten kings" out of the fourth kingdom upon the earth." He also referred to them as "the mighty and the holy people". Thus, without a doubt "the ten kings" represents the Christian European Americans. In Revelation 17 you'll find that the ten kings are in fact upon BABYLON THE GREAT. Notice verse 12 which says, And the ten horns (and the people) which thou sawest are "ten kings" which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (with the man of lawlessness). It is my firm belief that, instead of Israel, it is AMERICA which holds the key to the end-time prophecies of Daniel, and Revelation, and 2nd Thessalonians 2, etc.

There wasn't any need for him to mention Gog seeing how both he and Ezekiel rightly identified the man of lawlessness as being the people of African descent (Libyans and Ethiopians).

For starters, the "little horn that waxed exceeding great", in Daniel, and "BABYLON THE GREAT" in Revelation, represents AMERICA. The "ten kings out of the fourth kingdom" in Daniel 7:24, and in Revelation 17:12 represents European Americans.

(the King James) "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." (1 John 2:18) "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come, and even now already is it in the world." (John 4:3) "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2nd John 1:7)

The pronouns "he", "him", and "his", are most often used to depict one man, but they can also be used to depict a whole race of man. Wouldn't you agree? No, I'm NOT willing to change my mind! The writers of the newer versions of the Bible simply ADDED "the" in front of the term "antichrist" in 2 John :18. I don't need to remind you that there's a price to pay for adding to the scriptures. You're right, those actual terms are not found in the end-time prophecies, but there are countless metaphors and code words used in Daniel and Revelation to describe America and the European Americans.

NOWHERE in Daniel, or Revelation, or even 2nd Thessalonians 2, can you find the term "the Antichrist" in relation to the man of lawlessness. The reason being that the man of lawlessness is not one single individual man, but rather that race/nationality of man which descended from Cain. In 2nd Thess. 2 Paul foretold that in the last days that race would exalt himself above all that is of the house of Israel, ie above the European Caucasians. In Daniel and Revelation that race is symbolized as "the ten horns", meaning, a people. It is that lawless race upon AMERICA which Daniel and John the Revelator wrote about. Notice Daniel 7:24 "And the ten horns (and the people) out of this kingdom (out of the United Kingdom and out of Europe) are ten kings that shall arise (are European Americans that shall arise): and another (and another ten horns, another people) shall rise after them; and he (and this people) shall be diverse from the first....." And John wrote in Revelation 17:16,17 "And the ten horns (and the man of lawlessness) which thou sawest upon the beast (upon Babylon the great/AMERICA), these shall hate the whore , and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." "For God hath put in their hearts (in the hearts of the European Americans) to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast (unto the man of lawlessness), until the words of God shall be fulfilled."

2nd Thessalonians 2:4 says that the man of lawlessness will "oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that his is God." In my opinion I believe that scriptures is saying, the descendants of Cain will exalt themselves above the European white man, so much so that, one of them will sit as Pope in the Catholic Church representing God. Which, in your honest opinion, is more likely to occur in the coming years? A man called Antichrist sitting in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, claiming to be God?, or a Black man sitting as Pope in the Catholic Church representing God?

I have a question concerning the false prophets or false prophecy teachers which Jesus foretold would come in the last days in Matthew 24. In verse 24 Jesus said of them, "if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Which obviously means they deceive all BUT the elect. Is it just possible that Jesus was referring to the many preachers and prophecy teachers and Christians today who interprets the man of lawlessness as being that of a false messiah or "Antichrist"? It's a question we all should ponder seeing that we're obviously living the last days of which Jesus spoke. Peter foretold of those false teachers as well in 2nd Peter, chapter 2. "They shall bring in damnable heresies and many shall follow their pernicious ways", Peter wrote. "And with covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you", he said in verse 3.

There is no correlation to the antichrists in 1st John, and the beast called "man of lawlessness" in Daniel, 2nd Thess. 2, and Revelation. None whatsoever. Antichrists are those people who do not believe that Jesus was God in the flesh, while the beast called man of lawlessness are the people who descended from Cain. In verse 18 John was not referring to one particular "Antichrist" coming in the last days, he was referring to the antichrist spirit which would come.

The Bible says nothing about a coming false messiah called "the Antichrist"..

I know it's talking about Daniel! But obviously the author of the article doesn't know that the people of the prince which Daniel spoke about in 9:26 and identified as Libyans and Ethiopians in 11:43, are the people whose chief prince is Gog, in Ezekiel.

I interpret "the people of the prince" as being the people of Gog, with Gog being their "chief prince". Ezekiel identified those people as being Persians, Ethiopians, and Libyans.

I'd love to respond but it takes the moderator too long to approve my posts, so I'll just move on.

>>>1. They are not coming out of the far north, like the passage says they will.<<< In Ezekiel 38:5 the writer CLEARLY identifies the people of Gog as being Persians, Ethiopians, and Libyans. In other words, Arabs and Africans. So, in order for the people of Gog to get to the European nations, they would need to come up out of the northern parts of their place, which is what the scripture actually says, for notice verse 15 of Ezekiel 38, "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee..." >>>2. They are not invading the land of Israel, like the passage says they will.<<< The scripture says they will invade "Sheba, and Dedan, and the mechants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof." In other words, the Europeans. (Ez. 38:13) >>>3. They are not riding on horses, like the passage says they will.<<< Get real!... "riding on horses" means, they will be transported to the European nations. >>>Daniel 11:43 has nothing at all to do with Gog and Magog.<<< Of course it does! Daniel 11:43 is a prophecy relating to America, and to the Africans, ie people of Gog that are upon America. For notice: "But he (America) shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver (ie over the monetary system), and over all the precious things of Egypt (ie over the Arab oil): and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps."

>>>The prophecy concerning the Abomination of Desolation is in Daniel, and relates to the Jews, Jerusalem, and the Temple in Jerusalem.<<< I don't believe so. In chapter 7, verses 24-26 Daniel explained via symbols whom the end-time scriptures are about, for notice: 23. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth..... 24. And the ten horns, (and the people) out of this kingdom are ten kings (are European Americans) that shall arise: (Notice that John spoke of these same ten kings upon Babylon the great in Revelation 17:12) and another (another ten horns, called "man of lawlessness") shall rise after the ten kings; and he shall be diverse from the ten kings, and shall subdue three generations of them, and shall speak great words against them, and shall wear out the saints among them, and shall think to change the times and laws of the ten kings, and the laws shall be given into his hand until a time, and times and the dividing of time. And they shall take away the dominion of the ten kings, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

Anybody got any thoughts at all on this subject?

Anyone know what "eat her flesh" means in the scripture above?

Thoughts anyone?

Thoughts anyone?

Actually there are 2 end-time "beasts" spoken of in Revelation; one being the scarlet-coloured beast called Babylon the great, AND, the man of lawlessness (symbolized as "the ten horns") upon Babylon the great.

The prophet Daniel spoke of an abomination that would be occurring on earth in the last days, and in Matthew 24:15 Jesus also spoke of that abomination, and He said in regards to His second coming, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)" Most if not all modern-day Christians believe that "the holy place" Jesus spoke of, is a reference to a rebuilt temple over in Jerusalem, but, considering that the Churches had not yet been established when Jesus made the statement, is it possible that He meant to say, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the Church?"

>>>the beast used to be clearly known. not here. not today. not anymore.<<< Who was he "clearly known" as?

How can we be sure that the African and Arab "migrants" that are invading the European nations today, are not the people of "Gog" spoken of in Ezekiel 38 and 39, and in Daniel 11:43??

In Revelation 17:3 Babylon the great is symbolized as that of "a scarlet coloured beast, having seven heads and ten horns." Notice that verse 16 says, "And the ten horn which thou sawest upon Babylon the great (upon the beast), these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." How does one interpret the scripture above? Which nation today represents "Babylon the great"? Whom do "the ten horns" represent? And whom does "the whore" represent? And what does "eat her flesh" mean?