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  1. That confuses the beasts. The Beast in 17:8 is the rebuilt city of Babylon upon which the ecclesiastical harlot Babylon rides and which goes off into total destruction in fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophecies against Babylon (Jer. 50:3, 13, 39-40; 51:29; Rev. 18:2-10) by forces from her North (Jer. 50:41-42; 51:47-48) but ultimately it will be God's judgment against her (Rev. 17:16-17; 18:8; Isa. 13:19-22; Jer. 51:63-64; Rev. 18:21). The Beast in Rev. 11:7 is the Antichrist Beast Adonikam, he rises from the abyss to symbolize he is a hybrid altered DNA creation, whether by men under direction of Satan or the fallen angels themselves. The abyss links the symbolism to demons---he rises from them. 1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. (Rev 9:1-3 KJV)
  2. Audible when He wants to be: As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, "Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Act 13:2 NKJ) But they were apostles establishing the church before the New Testament was written. After this unique event we don't see this repeated, in fact Paul speaks of the Holy Spirit bearing him witness through his conscience, therefore it is NOT audible and NOT like what demons do telepathically speaking words or inciting fleshly lusts through their ability to manipulate magnetic fields generated by our brains or do manipulate electrical energy etc: (Which modern science can do also, by the way) I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, (Rom 9:1 NKJ) Demons cannot bear witness to your conscience, only incite the lusts of your flesh by somehow causing lusts by generating electro-chemical production somehow, likely via telepathic suggestion. Once the lustful thought is inserted, the average sinner does the rest himself. Because people don't study scripture, or know God....they sometimes believe they are being tempted by God: 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death. (Jam 1:13-15 NKJ) God can't tempt by evil because to do that would require He hold an evil thought in His mind and then communicate it. That is impossible for Holy God to do, just as its impossible darkness exist in unapproachable light: 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. (1Ti 6:16 NKJ) There isn't even a hint of a shadow in God, regardless which way perspective you have when looking at Him: 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning. (Jam 1:17 NKJ) You CANNOT compare anything God does, to what finite creatures do, especially what the Devil or demons do. There is no comparison: 5 "To whom will you liken Me, and make Me equal And compare Me, that we should be alike? (Isa 46:5 NKJ) 666 is a Biblical allusion to the man's name Adonikam, that will be the name of the Antichrist Beast. We have been told beforehand, in detail.
  3. Generally I agree. But specifically I think Paul nailed it: I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, (Rom. 9:1 NKJ) The Holy Spirit bore witness to Paul what was right or wrong through his conscience, hence Paul says elsewhere: 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel. (Rom. 2:14-16 NKJ) So the Holy Spirit also bears witness to the unsaved, enough so they are a "law to themselves". Its required this means God bore witness to them through their conscience, the Holy requirements of His law, because God will judge how they reacted to that "witness", "the secrets of men." That's not a verbal witness, its perception: 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth. (1 Jn. 2:20-21 NKJ) The Holy Spirit is the anointing, He bears witness to our spirit what is "true and not a lie", but its not verbal. Its "Perception", "we know" 1492 εἰδῶ eido all things claiming to be the inspired word of God, we "perceive" when its a lie. But that isn't verbal, its a perception.
  4. The implication of your reply is telepathic communication is something only God can do. That certainly is not the case (Lk. 8:12): https://www.ted.com/talks/tan_le_a_headset_that_reads_your_brainwaves
  5. I stopped reading when I read this "voice of God is heard speaking words in the mind of man". That's doesn't happen, if it does its not the Holy Spirit speaking. The Holy Spirit spoke to the apostles, but to all of them present, not in their minds. And it clearly was a unique situation as its never repeated again in the Bible. 2 As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, "Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." 3 Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away. (Acts 13:2-3 NKJ) The Holy Spirit bears witness through our conscience what is right or wrong, its perception, not verbal communication: I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, (Rom. 9:1 NKJ) To our spirit: 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, (Rom. 8:16 NKJ) Our spirit is not the organ of our brain, that is flesh and in our flesh dwells no good thing: 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. (Rom. 7:18 NKJ) Hence John said test the spirits, if they come speaking words in your mind, ask if they can confess Jesus is their LORD or that Jesus came in the flesh, otherwise its possible one might be deceived into becoming of their false prophets: 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. (1 Jn. 4:1-3 NKJ)
  6. I will prove the following two propositions: 1) 666 meaning a biblical allusion to Adonikam in the Old Testament. 2) The Holy Spirit inspired this Riddle to strengthen the faith of the generation alive in the End Time fighting against unprecedented apostasy (2 Th. 2:3-4; 1 Tim. 4:1; 2 Tim. 4:2). and mockery of God’s Word the Bible (Jude 1:18; 1 Tim. 3:1-5; 2 Pet. 3:3). Adonikam’s name will be the actual name of the Beast that rises and the solution indicates both Providential Preservation and Inerrancy of Scripture are true, as both 666 and 667 are correct and God prevented copiests from reconciling the number as modern textual critics are wont to do. We solve riddles by heeding its details, spotting double entendre hinting at a solution. For example, Samson’s riddle (Judges 14:14) was solvable by the double entendre on “lion” and “honey” (Judges 14:8-9, 18): Lets Solve what 666 meant to John: The Genitive (“OF”) is the double entendre. 1) 666 is the number OF a man; 2) 666 is the number OF a name (Rev. 13:17); 3) 666 is the number OF the Beast. The solution: 1a) 666 is OF the man because he has 666 children (Ezr. 2:13). 2a) 666 is OF the name because it generates the equation that results in 666. In Nehemiah 7:18 Adonikam is said to have 667 children, therefore its deducible the list began with Adonikam’s father who must also be named Adonikam. So the “count” or “calculation” which is “OF” this name is 667-1=666, pointing to the same man Adonikam his son (Neh. 7:18). 3a) 666 is OF the Beast because John said so (Rev. 13:18). Having these two verses point to the same name is like having “two witnesses” establishing the matter (Deut. 19:15). http://endtimenews.net/666-meaning/
  7. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Rev 13:3-4 KJV) A riddle: Only one of the "heads of it" (κεφαλῶν feminine αὐτοῦ neuter) "looked like" (ὡς) it was wounded to death, but "it" (αὐτοῦ neuter referring to the Beast θηρίου neuter) was healed. Later the "Beast" is wounded and healed or "did live" (Rev. 13:12, 14). However, its logically impossible the "part of the whole" is "the whole" simultaneously. Moreover, the wound is in appearance only, so how can the healing be real? Just as the true picture emerges if Jigsaw pieces aren't forced to fit, so also the truth resolves apparent contradictions without violence to the details. As the wound is apparent, it cannot refer to an actual wound as in the much later Nero redivinus myth. As the wounded head is not healed this cannot depict a phony resurrection of the Antichrist Beast. Moreover, the angel interpreted the Head/king as alive in John's day (Rev. 17:10), but the Beast is healed when its Mouth speaks in the final 42 months of the end time week. The details imply the answer to the riddle as these exist harmoniously in the truth being revealed: In the Greek, the word for “wound” is plēgē, which everywhere in Revelation means “plague,” in fact, a divinely inflicted judgment (9:18, 20; 11:6; 15:1ff.; 16:9, 21; 18:4, 8; 21:9; 22:18)... In 13:14 we find that the beast has the plague of the “sword” (machaira)... Elsewhere in Revelation the “sword” (machaira, or rhomphaia) (1) symbolically refers to the divine judgment of the Messiah (1:16; 2:12, 16; 19:15, 21); (2) is the sword of the rider on the red horse and equals divine judgment (6:4, 8); and (3) is a sword used as a weapon against the saints of God (13:10). We are, then, nearer to John’s mind if we see the sword, not as referring to an emperor’s death, but as the symbol of God’s wrath that in some event had struck a death blow to the authority of the beast (and the dragon), yet which had been deceptively covered up or restored (for a probable antecedent, see Isa 27:1).-Johnson, A. F. (1981). Revelation. In F. E. Gaebelein (Ed.), The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Hebrews through Revelation (Vol. 12, p. 526). Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House. The Roman Empire of John's day was plagued by the divine gospel of Christ, Christianity apparently slew the Beast when it accepted the Word of God, thus the head was slain by the divine Sword of the Lord" (Eph 6:17; Heb 4:12 cp. Rev. 11:5). However, the conversion was in appearance only for the Head returns in the modern version of ancient Rome. As this Beast is empowered by the Dragon and given his authority, the satanic healing is real, not in appearance only. As casting Christianity down is a victory over God, the Dragon takes his place as the object of worship, so also the Beast Kingdom. (Rev. 13:4). As neither the return of Israel nor the resurrection of Christ created such wonder in the whole world, the cause of the world's wonder must lie in the manifestation of the Dragon's power in the Beast: "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (2 Thess. 2:9 KJV) This Beast rises up at mid-week, for 42 months its blasphemous "mouth" will rage against God. Just before this time, the restraint of the mystery of lawlessness is taken out of the way---the divine decree Satan's angels couldn't interact physically with humans on earth as they did in Genesis 6. In Rev. 9:1 a star free falls from heaven symbolizing the heavenly restraint being taken out of the way, allowing spiritual wickedness above and demon locusts from beneath invade the earth. For five months demon locust spirits infest the air humans breathe, tormenting and terrorizing reluctant followers of the Antichrist as he transforms into the Beast (Rev. 9:1-10). The rest of mankind are astonished by the appearance of the Nephilim disguised as a friendly extra-terrestrial race. All under the command of the Dragon, who appears physically and stands with his Son of Destruction the Beast and the False prophet (Rev. 16:13-14)---that is the meaning of the flying frogs, miracle working spiritism coupled with a ufo deception deceiving the entire world they can fight against God and win: "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Rev. 13:4 KJV) The great falling away against all called God or worshiped has begun (2 Thess. 2:4), times and Law (Dan. 7:25) have apparently changed; all former religions are now obsolete. In their place, the Beast offers worship to the Dragon, the God of fortresses (Dan. 11:38) whose flying wings of abomination (Dan. 9:27 NKJ) rain down fire (Rev. 13:13) upon all who oppose the Beast.
  8. Perhaps you'll educate me, what is to be gained by not following Daniel's lead interpreting a two horned Beast as a dual world power? While I agree the confederation of these world powers, unties to support the Antichrist, what is to be gained by denying the US is mentioned in prophecy? To me, that works against the premise the Bible is inspired prophecy, IF THESE are the last days. Now if the last days are a few centuries from now, then its explicable how this nation, so trashed by crooked politicians and a disinterested public evidently craving socialism, won't be a factor in the end time.
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