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  1. It's actually no where near as good. When you read the word, the Holy Spirit puts things into your sub conscious that will affect your whole life...... It is part of having a close relationship with the Lord. Going to church and being with others is a good add on, but you need everything out of the word to be well rounded for the spiritual fight going on around you. I didn't mean one or the other, I completely agree with what you are saying =)
  2. Yes I could read the bible more, but listening to what others have to say is almost as good too. If the bible was enough for us, then why would we go to church? Socialise with other Christians? Because we need other people's understandings of the bible too =) Even if I HAD read about Sodom and Gomorrah before posting this question, I still would have asked it!
  3. You sir, have posted the most insightful post on this thread so far.
  4. Please no-one start being judgemental on this thread =/ Try to understand why everyone posts what they post, instead of accusing them of thinking wrong =) Keep all things in mind - I'm not saying you can't have other opinions, share your opinions! But they are opinions, what we individually think and do not know. So bare that in mind before criticising someone for a post they've made =) Understanding each other is key! Or at least trying to!
  5. But that is the point of Jesus coming; we are not meant to be ready =) In fact, in a way, us being ready for his coming is us being sinful and ashamed of ourselves, as this is what he will come to fix.
  6. Now that, is a very interesting point! But from I've seen in the bible (especially the reference made earlier about the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah), committing acts of homosexuality is a sin. But we should keep our minds open to all possible reasons, so don't think I'm discarding your idea =)
  7. I half agree with you Kwik, but I believe that the natural attraction to the same sex is not the person's fault necessarily, so I don't think this is the sin. Instead, I believe that the actions of homosexuality is the sin, as this is not being willing to change and is giving in to the temptation. The acting upon it is the only part of the whole situation that IS the person's choice, not the natural and instinctive attraction. That theory just feels like the fairest way to me, what do you think about it? Also, is lusting after flesh (as you put it) really always a sin? I can understand that lusting obsessively is sinful, but having the occasional and almost uncontrollable "tug" towards someone you see shouldn't be a sin surely? Obviously with the exception of having a relationship with someone different to who you are lusting over, or lusting about someone who is already in a relationship. But as Butero said, at what point does attraction become a sin?
  8. Thanks Shiloh for that insightful view, just what I was looking for =) Bopeep I have indeed read the bible, I think it's a little unfair that you judge me on that; the bible has hundreds of events so you can't really expect me to know about them all. I do on the other hand openly admit that I do not read the bible as much as I should, which is probably true to us all, no matter how much we read the bible.
  9. Okay I read about it, and can use this in further debates about homosexuality with non-Christians - cheers man =)
  10. Excuse my ignorance, but who are Sodom and Gomorrah?
  11. I've been in multiple debates recently about God and homosexuality, I want to get more people thinking about it and want to know about other people's thoughts. Is the psychology of it (having the attraction towards the same sex) a sin in itself? Is just the acting upon the attraction the sin? Or is none of it a sin at all? Another point, is that some non-Christians accuse Christians of not liking homosexuals and thinking of them as bad people. This really annoys me, how people can so easily generalise us. I myself do not understand or agree with homosexuality...but that doesn't mean I think homosexuals are bad people! We are ALL bad in the eyes of God. What say you on these matters? =)
  12. I wonder if it will happen in our life time? It seems like humanity could not get any worse and so some people believe it will be soon. But maybe God foresees us being in greater need in the future and so is waiting for precisely the right time. But who (on earth) knows?
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