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  1. we still have green leaves on some of the oaks here. the pear trees leaves are red. those winter pics look amazing.
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    faith healing

    be very careful about believing what you hear/see and see on TV concerning ministries. 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; In the book of Ecclesiastes it tells us there is nothing new under the sun and look what they said in the old testament: Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: and even more: Jer 5:30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof? and what did God say?... Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. this knowledge is knowledge of Him... Knowing God... having a personal relationship with God. we can only have this by turning from our sin and turning to Him, seeking Him with our whole heart and living for God. Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. many shepherds today have sold out God, Literally they use God as a product to be sold. they say what people want to hear and entertain the people instead of feeding them with Truth. And Jesus Christ is The Truth.
  3. we wrestle not against flesh and blood... a key strategy in war among men is to take out the leader. once we had Saddam Hussein the opposing forces broke down quickly, no one was commanding them, no one was leading them and there was much confusion. The Spirit of antichrist is working very hard these days. persecution is from the enemy. this has nothing to do with china. the reason this kind of thing isnt happening in america more than we see which is mild right now is because much of the church is fast asleep. the enemy does not need go after what is already his. I have heard stories about the saints in china... so close to God that The Holy Spirit would lead them to where they were going to worship on what days. they are that close to Him.
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    What does this verse mean?

    I dont know that there is an actual bottle, and also a warehouse of bottles, but God is with you and knows all you heartache, all you go thru and that he does care about whatever it is we go thru... he sees it all and knows our heart. there may just very well be a bottle though.
  5. no, but i will check it out when i can devote some time to it. thanks.
  6. i have a theory that before the flood the oceans were not as deep or big. there have been cities found under the ocean and the architecture is similar to what we know was pre flood. reading your post made me think of that.
  7. Are you telling me you dont believe the earth is flat? I dont see how anyone could believe the earth is round. just kidding. but in all seriousness, my approach is going to be skeptical even in this time line i spoke of ordering. My skepticism towards science right now is this trying to prove "climate change" so one point of interest i have is who is it thats doing the research, who are they getting paid by, what are they vested in and who are their allies, not just the data. other scientists have said if all the glaciers melted it wouldnt be enough water to flood the earth, since water expands when it freezes and most of glaciers are underwater and lots of ice melts every year already, and has been with seasons changing but they try to make it out to be global warming... when i was little i used to love animal shows. they always had them about lions. so a polar bear show was a real treat. they used to say back then how polar bears migrated because ice melted. today they are making this out to be a global catastrophe and that its something new happening. i saw videos of this as a little child. they are lying. besides all that with noahs flood, it rained. there is a lot of claims that i am not seeing line up with noahs flood.
  8. I have also read sources that claim warm atlantic current shifted north and caused the dryas event. I am going to go with the bible before i go with scientists. edit: I will also certainly believe the bible before i believe history from a people who worship rats, and the destroyer. we have examples thru history how people who worshiped false gods lied and said things like, they fell from the moon into the euphrates river in the form of an egg, and then later became impregnated by the rays of the sun and gave birth to baals son. we know the destroyer is a liar and is the father of all lies.
  9. they use scripture. it lists verses that tells how old people were or how old when they had a certain child or something happened. my plan is to go thru it forwards and backwards and look for anything that can be said to be inaccurate or potentially inaccurate.
  10. LOL. sorry about that... i had a dyslexic moment. I thought you said us Atheists... i re read it and you said us Theists without the A. well anyway, thats my 2 cents for Atheists, with the A, making that claim.
  11. I believe Love is an action If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? but i also believe love has emotion Lam 3:22 It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. 1Pe 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: if we look up the word for compassion in the greek we find: G4835 συμπαθής sumpathēs soom-path-ace' From G4841; having a fellow feeling (“sympathetic”), that is, (by implication) mutually commiserative: - having compassion one of another. Total KJV occurrences: 1 notice it says this is the only instance in the entire KJV where this word in the greek appears. sometimes we are even to rebuke someone in love and a good example would not just be in other adults but in our children. sometimes you got to be tough... to do whats good for them. sometimes we do not really want to do what God is telling us, but we do it because of our love for Him, we want to make Him happy. love encompasses a whole lot. I had a discussion with some other believers awhile back about Love, really about the fruit of The Spirit and a lot of good things came out about what all Love really is according to scripture. at the beginning of the convo i too said Love is an action, but i do not believe love to be confined only to boundries of action anymore. I think If @Giller happens by this thread He would have some good contributions to this topic.
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    Why isn’t the shroud of turin in the bible

    i am curious as to why i keep hearing this shroud being referred to as a miracle. a miracle is someone like say a leper being cleansed or healed or like say Lazarus being raised from the dead or someone who is blind receiving sight. how is a piece of cloth a miracle... even if it is legit? which i do not care to debate because even if Jesus did actually wear it i do not see how it changes my faith. i will not believe anything more or new because of it. its an object. and we should not give anything so much importance that it becomes an idol. the cloth can do nothing for me but be something to look at. it holds no power. and lets say it is legit, what does it prove? someone already believes Jesus is risen or not. I just cant see that it has any relevancy to anything. especially miracles.
  13. when you have done wrong and you get that dread feeling in your gut, when you feel the warmth of love in your chest, do you notice that these feelings encompass an area larger than any one physical organ? and what is this feeling? when you walk into a room and you can feel tension, or a warm welcoming... is this physical? is this explained by dna or cells? certainly not. this is your very own spirit. can this topic be explained by science? i do not think so. there is apart of your very being that speaks to there is more to life, and existence than what the eye can see. the fact that the only know place life exists, and its covered in life. the fact trees breath in what we breathe out, and vica versa, this speaks to intelligent design, the ecosystem, things working together. the fact there is male and female. intelligent design is all around you and you will see it if you look. just read Matthew 24. read what it says are the signs of the times. look at the world around you. all of the things it says in there are happening. the New testament was originally written in greek. in Matthew 24 it says these things happening are the beginning of sorrows and when we look that up it literally means labor pains. in todays terminology its contractions which grow in intensity and frequency until delivery. are natural disasters not becoming more destructive and more prevalent? did you see how many hurricanes we had globally this past hurricane season? they just kept popping up, and they didnt list all of them on tv. earth quakes? tsunamis. volcanos. diseases. people claiming to be Jesus. wars and rumors of wars. all of this is increasing. the labor pains are getting worse and more frequent. california (and much more of the west) was on fire and the east was flooding, even in Texas. it was not this way 25 years ago. people are not the same either and you dont even need to do anything to see this any more than just go driving. no respect or love. just like it says in the bible, peoples love will grow cold. everything is escalating. there is so much proof in the bible if you are not seeing it you are not trying to see it. and even more, if you pray to God and ask for Him to help your unbelief... He will. the truth is you are not really seeking God. and if you are your heart is not right. when I first called out to God i said ok God, if you are out there and care anything about me show me something... I picked up that bible and He showed me the purpose of life is to respect and obey God. He showed me my sin was cursing my own life. I chose to do it His way... I said ok God, i will try it your way... I wont do this anymore, and in only 2 weeks my life was changing for the better. The thing you need to understand is God is Faithful even when we are not. God wants to give you life in Christ. God wants you to come to Him, The Bible tells us its His good pleasure to give us the Kingdom... But it also tells us Jesus is The way. that Jesus is the door. we must do things Gods way. and our minds and heart must be humble before Him to live how He says, and live How He wants... or you dont get anything From God. He does not deviate, he does not compromise His ways or His Word. Jesus Christ was beaten and whipped with a cat-o-nine, he endured being mocked, a crown of thorns mashed down on His head, and having nails driven thru his hands and feet and hanging on a cross for hours in the hot sun to pay for our sin... so we could be able to come to God. do you know when you are crucified you have to pull up and push up on the nails just to draw a breath because the weight of your body is pushing down on your diaphragm? and even then The Book says his bones were out of place, and its not uncommon your joints slip out of joint when crucified? would even a crazy person endure this and have thousands following him for now more than two millennia for nothing? Once adam and eve sinned they made it so Jesus had to die. The law in the bible says blood shed must occur for atonement of sin. it says anyone who is hung on a tree is accursed of God. it was written thousands of years prior to Jesus being born... and some crazy guy thought, this is my chance to die horribly just to get people to worship me even though i will be dead? Jesus loves you very much, enough to go thru all that so we can once again have fellowship with God. if you are looking for proof to believe, you are looking in the wrong place. but if you seek God with all your heart, and you are willing to do it His way... He will reveal Himself to you... If you ask Him to come into your heart, he will... and then He will give you all the knowledge and wisdom you need if you just ask.
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    God's sovereign choice

    I think what you are saying is that all creatures are outside of God and have free will, and each creature chooses to stay In God OR rebel and have no part in God because they chose to sin?