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  1. What i know is darkness will get darker and those in Christ will continue to shine brighter and brighter. I have heard nothing from The Almighty about revival or judgment. its quite a lengthy video but the harbinger has some interesting things to say. you can find various videos on youtube. I have not had confirmation on this video. I have had a couple dreams but can not say if its judgment or God just shaking things. I also know what ever comes is going to be to better the church. even those in lamentations showed hope thru prayer close to the end of that book. the main thing is not to be afraid of whats coming. God is for us. He will help us. He will give us the words to speak if needed. its our place to stay faithful to Him and not turn our backs to Him or go our own way. we must not let our love grow cold. we must remain unspotted from the world. In Christ is where we will find every thing, every tool, every ability to do this. we must draw near to Him now. live ready. Never will i leave you, Never will I forsake you, He said. what a friend we have in Jesus. we must wait patiently for our hope.
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    Why Pretrib Logic Fails

    i am not even going to attempt discussing millennial kingdom, at least not in this thread. i will discuss what The Holy Spirit has shown me concerning when we get caught up to be with Him. the MK is not what this thread is about.
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    Why Pretrib Logic Fails

    the bible does indeed clarify the trnity. Father, The Word, And The Holy Ghost... or The Father, The Son, and Holy Spirit. this thread is not the place for that really. it would be nice if pre tribbers could stay on topic, which is why pre trib logic fails. which i have shown over and over in this thread... and here we have whats called misdirection. if you cant prove it you bring up a whole other topic to try and validate it. but it still dont hold water. once the groom comes... the door is shut. no more prayers or intercessory pleas will be heard... do you not understand the model from the OT temple? no one is allowed to enter... the mercy seat is in the holy of holys.
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    Why Pretrib Logic Fails

    very true. however tribulation saints is not one of them. once the groom comes the door is shut... there is a concept that comes thru. tribulation saints is a teaching of man. there are also concepts that are teachings of man and not found in scripture. like say how the word witness is used. per scripture a witness is a martyr. not someone going to tel someone the good news. so we must be careful with these teachings of man. lets not muddy the waters.
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    Why Pretrib Logic Fails

    saints is the term used in the epistles to address believers. saints means sanctified ones... those who have been sanctified. we are sanctified by Jesus. once the groom comes, the door is shut. no more mercy seat will be available. tribulation saints is not found in the bible, it is a teaching of man. show me one scripture in the bible that says tribulation saints and i will recant. let me save you some time though... its not in there. there is more to consider... and study concerning what you say about matt 16:18 and rev 13:7. the words used for over come are not the same. and also the heart of whats being said are not the same either. If what you say is true concerning matt 16:18 then there would never have been even one martyr. not a one. Paul, Steven, etc. etc. and lets not forget about Jesus Himself, and that the servant is not greater than the master. the verse you quote is speaking to that Jesus will build His church and nothing the enemy does will stifle Jesus' efforts and that His arm is not shortened that it cannot save. even more... if what you claim matt 16:18 says is indeed what it says then we also have a contradiction in scripture. when we find a contradiction in scripture the misunderstanding is not in the bible but rather, it is found within the bounds of our own understanding... in this case your own. Go and look up the words in these two verses and see for yourself the words are not the same. but there is even more Goodness found of God in scripture concerning this.... Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. You see, for a christian to die is gain. for a christian death is not the end. it is not defeat. Christ is risen... and that same power, same authority over death, over the grave lives in us. The scripture does not say in vain... Luk 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. He will raise us up when??? Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. if there be more days beyond when Jesus takes us... then Gods word is not truthful. this is why pretrib logic fails.
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    Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. Isa 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: Php 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. Php 4:5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Php 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. Php 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Php 4:9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. .....Col 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. God is good all the time. even when we are in the midst of a storm, even when we morn or are sad... we can have peace. He Is there and does comfort us. Even when we are troubled we can say ... it is well with my soul. It is Him that all praise and adoration and worship and thanks belongs to.
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    Principles of Fasting

    would you be so kind as to elaborate? i do not know an ed zach lee and i just felt something whoomf... right over my head. edit: nevermind. i get it. lol. i had to say it more than threee times tho. thats funny.
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    Principles of Fasting

    glory glory hallelujah... sing it now... since i layed my burdens down...
  9. also, recognize this is hard. do not become discouraged if you fail. multiple times. keep going.... it was easier for me to quit doing cocaine than nicotine. so dont beat yourself up or be to hard on yourself... just say ok... let me try again.
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    please pray...

    I read a post by Naominash today on another forum we both go to. she is ok. thank yall for the prayers.
  11. cold turkey is the only way. you can cut down so when you do finally quit it will not be as hard... but cold turkey is the only thing that works. you cant get away from the devil if you are holding his tail. quitting nicotine is actually going to war with your brain. your brain does not manufacture anything even similar to nicotine. your brain becomes accustomed to the level of nicotine you administer and when nicotine levels drop... your brain sends signals to your body to get this nicotine to "level out" and so its actually your brain making you have a "nic-fit" certain things will cause this craving to be worse... such as eating. coffee will do it too. acknowledge these things and stop them for awhile. eating, well, just dont eat large meals if fasting for three days is not good for you... it takes three days to get nicotine out of your system... the cravings may come for weeks after but the first three days are the hardest. just fight it for five minutes and the craving will subside. after the first three days the cravings wont be as strong. also... pray, pray, pray. God speed.
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    Principles of Fasting

    there are key principles to fasting, many of which are outlined in this thread. but i want to point out one thing... food is allowed. now what does The Book say concerning food and drink?.,. 1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. now this verse is really speaking to what is sacrificed to idols.. but that really just emphasizes my point exponentially. the heart of fasting is to honor God or its like a piano thats out of tune. the melody maybe right but it just aint quite right. something is a little bit off. two ways i fast. no food only water, and i do this for more than a day. and the other is a fast for a day. some folks like this one lady i know she says she fasts from eating chocolates. she loves that chocolate. for me thats not a fast, but to her she is denying herself something that is allowed. and she does it in a way thats honoring God. so to her she honors God just as i do when i go three days with only water. how she fasts is between her and God. only water for days at a time is not for every one, and in fact could kill some people. so wisdom must be used in fasting. but when i have fasted water only i experienced an extreme closeness to God. the fellowship was very rich. does this mean everyone will experience this or that even i will experience this every time i fast?... nope. as missmuffet said its not commanded, but there can be benefits and not just spiritual. some times fasting will boost your immune system. your body will clean out toxins stored up. there are physical health benefits as well. i have heard and read many saying this passage below disproves fastings importance but i will highlight a few things to meditate on. Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. Isa 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God. Isa 58:3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours. Isa 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high. Isa 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD? Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward. Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; Isa 58:10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday: Isa 58:11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. Isa 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. what people look at mostly in this passage starts in verse 6 where it begins talking about loose the bands of wickedness... but what about the previous verses? the verses where the prophet is to expose their transgression? because most who read this are unaware of what these transgressions are they read over it and pay no mind. however, it says in verse 3 they found pleasure in their day of fasting. they did what they wanted. they served self.... not God... they did not honor God in this. next it says they exact all your labors... what on Gods green earth does this mean?... it means exacted the labors of their servants or the money of their debtors. this is in a non graceful, non-merciful way... they did not shew mercy as God had once shown them. and the parable comes to mind where someone was given time in mercy to pay... he said give me time and i will pay you all i owe. and mercy was given... but then he went to those who owed them and didnt show mercy. demanding whole and immediate payments. you see, if our fast isnt honoring God he wont take notice... our voice will not be heard on High... but what is implied here is that God does indeed honor our fasts when our actions to our neighbors is righteousness in Gods eyes.... and then our health shall spring forth speedily... our light shall break forth as the morning, our righteousness shall go before us, and the glory of The LORD shall be our reward. so as it says in 1cor 10:31... let ALL we do be to the glory of God. the passage from Isaiah even starts out talking about how the people honored God with their lips but their hearts were not right. fasting is for big boys and girls... not those still on milk. there is a principle to it. Honoring God. if in your heart that isnt there you may as well just eat. and I am not saying this to condemn anyone... maybe fasting isnt your thing. but to those who it is their thing and its done right... its purely to Honor God. basically if we aint living right our fasting is pointless because God wont hear or notice. He wont honor us if we do not honor Him. A relationship is not a one way street. God speed.
  13. recognize certain thoughts dealing with this, even sexual thoughts that is "straight" is from a spirit. the spirit of lust. its an unclean spirit. anytime those thoughts pop up stop them. deny them. renounce them and begin praying and seeking Gods face right then. Ask Him to change you and to renew your mind. also read the bible and find verses to help counter these thoughts and when they come into your brain begin reciting those scriptures. speak them out loud. do not give these thoughts place in your life or your mind. let The Word transform your mind.
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    i wont read it all in one sitting if its 500 pages... but would you post it already, pretty please with sugar on top?
  15. if we could use only one word to summarize the bible that word would be... Life. When God first began moving in my life He showed me my own sin was cursing my life. but when i began to trust and obey i began to see the curse of my sin lift off me and no longer had a grip on me. ....then Gods blessings began to flow. When i backslid later the curse of my sin was messing me up again. God wants us to trust and obey because He wants us to have LIFE and life more abundantly. when i repented then my life was blessed again. Trust and Obey indeed.