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  1. lets just take a moment here and acknowledge that apart of the belief being debated here is Calvinism. I didnt know so many here were Calvinists.
  2. the thing about sound reasoning is you take it all into account. if you do not... its not sound... its not based on all the facts. its a very illogical and foolish approach even to life here on earth to only say oh i like this... but i dont like that so i will ignore it. thats how you end up with a flat tire way down the road. you do realize what the word "if" means? Gods promises are often conditional. just because its only a two letter word dont mean its not important or we should just skim over it. God is specific with his words.
  3. God says: Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. The serpent said: Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Beware of those who tell you the same thing the serpent said. (Ye shall not surely die)
  4. Joh 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
  5. Luk 15:32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.
  6. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
  7. 2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
  8. Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
  9. 1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
  10. sure do. i also believe all the warnings that say it is possible. warnings you seem to ignore.
  11. no, it is not vital. it is pure ignorance of how to read scripture. The Book says graff them in again. that means the branch is broken off. not in Christ. you do not need to work for NASA to understand this. you do not read the bible for what you want it to say. and you do not build doctrine on what it dont say. you read it for what it says. seems like you dont want to read it for what it says. there is zero point in the bible dont say such and such. i have shown you what it does say. thats whats vital.
  12. Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. yes. it is correct interpretation.
  13. so because you didnt read the posts in a thread, for whatever reason, you want me to retype it? I do hope thats not the same approach used thruout the ministry here and/or reading or studying scripture. a whole lot could be missed.
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