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Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement? God speaks as He wishes to speak! And He speaks only the truth. Why does it matter so much to you? It's a curiosity - I think it's an interesting notion that the Tree of the Knowlege of Good and Evil "may not have" produced seeds. It has interesting ramifications given all the places that seed is mentioned in scripture. What would be the ramifications, might I ask? clb (Also, does anyone know whether there are edible seedless plants? My botany is appalling). Frankly I find the forum a bit too edgy to try to learn and share ideas. I'm not crying here, it's ok. In light of this I will not offer opinions, but just suggestions to look at. Think of places in scripture that mention seed. Like how we are born of incorruptable seed, like how the Israelites were not to mix seed types in a field, like how as long as the earth remains, the Lord told Noah that seed time and harvest would remain. What could these things mean. For example the Lord wasn't concerned with oxen when He told the Israelites that they were not to muzzle the ox while he threshed was He? (Deut 25:4, I Tim 5:18). We know the law is our tutor to lead us to Christ, right? So what is the Lord saying in these things regarding seed, and how the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil apparently was seedless (since man was allowed to eat from every tree that bore seed)?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you, I appreciate the info and link! This gives a plausible option as to how the notion of apple "crept" into the picture.

Agreed. The bible plainly tells us in Genesis 1:29 that Adam and Eve were given EVERY tree bearing seed for fruit - this would include ALL apple and pear trees correct?

Thanks for the offer to help Kwikphilly, I have received Jesus as my savior - I simply don't understand eating Jesus' flesh and drinking His blood well enough to have a "teaching opinion" of it. Regarding the fruit of the tree of Knowledge however, I am not infatuated with the fruit, nor do I desire it. To rephrase what I was trying to discover in my original question (which seems lost on some posters) is really - why do some Christians tell me that Adam and Eve disobeyed by eating an apple, when scripture plainly tells us that God Himself gave them every plant and tree bearing seed for food. What gives people the boldness to assert this? Where in the bible does it say they ate an apple?

Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement? St.John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. What is your understanding of this verse? Hello 2404, I really don't have much understanding of John 6:53. I could make guesses based off scripture, but I don't think they would help anyone.

Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement? God speaks as He wishes to speak! And He speaks only the truth. Why does it matter so much to you? It's a curiosity - I think it's an interesting notion that the Tree of the Knowlege of Good and Evil "may not have" produced seeds. It has interesting ramifications given all the places that seed is mentioned in scripture.

Thanks for the welcome Bopeep. The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either: God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it). or The Knowledge tree had no seeds If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement?

Ok, as an intro post I'll ask - where do people get the idea that the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was an apple? Genesis 1:29: Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the ]surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you. This verse tells us the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil produced no seeds (which is fitting for something that cannot produce life). Since apples have seeds we know they were not hanging from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil right?

satan cannot act wisely, since he has forsaken Wisdom (Jesus).

2 Corinthians 11:14 tells us that satan sometimes disguises himself as an angel of light. This suggests he actually appears to humans at times in order to deceive them.