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I love America BECAUSE we're allowed to say negative things about it. It's the greatest freedom we have. IMO PN

I think we agree Truth Seeker. Now that this war has officially begun, it's time for all of us to stand behind our President and especially our troops. I for one will be doing just that. Prime#

Truth Seeker: I wasn't attempting to debate the situation. I agree something needs to be done about Saddam, and I'm mostly in favor of this pending war. I was simply stating why I believe all the protests are happening, and that I believe the protests are justified, for the reasons I stated before. As for as your analogies of "hostages at gunpoint", or "my family" being held captive.........If I am to play the role of the U.S. as you suggest, I don't think I would need to hire someone to help me save them, as I 'out gun' them.....what....ten thousand to one. I also don't believe this war is about the people of Iraq. If it is, I assume we're going in to Saudi Arabia next, or maybe China, Egypt, Cuba, or maybe North Korea. Just my humble opinion. Prime#

Isn't our main missile defense system basically the threat of 'return fire'? If you bomb us, we'll bomb you, sort of thing? I thought that's why Reagan wanted 'Star Wars', because that 'threat of return fire' only works against other 'states' and not individuals or organizations. Maybe we're talking about two different things. Prime#

Hello everyone. I think that a vast majority of the 'anti-war' protests and posturing is due to the administrations handling of the situation. The Bush administration has thumbed its nose at the rest of the world since day one. They've backed out of long standing international treaties. They've backed out of diplomatic efforts in the Middle East, and with North Korea. Over-subsidizing steelworkers and textile owners hasn't helped either. Does anyone remember the last time Dick Cheney visited a foreign country? During the Enron thing? The situation with Iraq is no different if not worse. We bully or bribe other countries to go along with us, and make no effort to hide the fact that we're doing it. In Bush's September speech to the UN security council called for enforcement of UN resolutions in Iraq, and to try inspections one last time. The problem with these statements is that Cheney and Rumsfeld had called inspections a sham no more that a few days prior. Then the administration diplomatically announces it will watch these inspections in good faith, then within days begins a military build-up on Iraq's border. This is why all the anti-war protests are going on(IMO). The world questions our intentions, and with good reason. We've gone away from a posture of consultation and cooperation under Bush Senior and Clinton, to an aggressive, 'go it alone', "with us or against us" posture. Prime#

It depends on what you mean by false religion. If it's physically dangerous, she should immediately say something. If it's a mere difference of religion, I.E. JW, Catholic(some would say-not me), Muslim, Buddhist....whatever, I'd say it depends on the relationship. In this case, it's a former spouse so I guess it really depends on her feelings about him. If it was a bad split, and she wants to move on with her life, maybe not. If it's been resolved and they get along well, maybe. There's no clear answer because we are not her. She knows the circumstances, so if I were you, I would give her CWJ's advise. Prime#

Sorry for the delayed response. No, there's no specific reason. It's just the way you put it, I thought there was some meaningful reason CNN didn't broadcast it. I understand now, thanks. Prime#

What is the purpose for posting this link John? Prime#

Hey Munari, I think I was the one who said it? I meant no offense, so please don't take that way. I frequent many forums and I see the term a lot. It's never been used the way you suggest, to label Catholics, but I can see how it could be perceived that way. In my experience it's used to group ALL Bible believers together. Catholic, Protestant, JW, etc. After all, they all have common threads. As opposed to Quran believers, etc. It's more of a generalization than anything else. Prime

http://worthynews.com/apologetics/apol101part1.htm Think that's it. I can't say I agree with all of it, but it's still good stuff. Prime#

George posted a link that may help you. I'll see if I can find it. As for me, I probably should stay out of this debate. I have two going right now, and that's all I really have time for. Prime#

Yes I see the pattern. What does that have to do with the message John? Nothing. Thanks anyways. Prime#

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The Israel Defense Forces said Thursday it intends to investigate the death of a Palestinian teen-ager during Israel's military offensive in the West Bank. The announcement comes after B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights group, released a report blaming Israel for the death. The IDF chief military advocate reviewed the case and made the decision to investigate further. In a statement on its Web site, the IDF said it has undertaken about 20 investigations into the conduct of Israeli soldiers during the West Bank incursion. The allegations include acts of violence against Palestinian civilians, looting, theft of property and intentional damage to property and vehicles, the statement said. EXTRA INFORMATION Battle of Jenin In addition, five soldiers convicted by a military court of looting have been sentenced to up to five months in prison and have been demoted to private, the statement said. Israel launched Operation Defensive Shield in late March to root out what it called a "terrorist infrastructure" in the West Bank after a wave of Palestinian suicide bombings. The offensive lasted five weeks. Palestinians accused Israeli troops of looting and abusing the rights of citizens. They also alleged that Israeli forces massacred Palestinian civilians in the Jenin refugee camp. The Palestine Red Crescent Society later said the bodies of 53 Palestinians were recovered. Human Rights Watch said that about half of those were thought to be civilians, but that its investigation turned up no evidence of a massacre. Israel said 23 of its soldiers were killed during the Jenin operation. Rights group places blame for death 'squarely on Israel' The B'Tselem study, called Death in Custody, looks into the death of 17-year-old Murad Awaisa in Ramallah during Operation Defensive Shield. The group said that IDF soldiers detained Awaisa and some neighbors in an apartment on March 31, and the next morning, "his body was taken from the building with two bullets in it; one near his heart and one in the knee." B'Tselem said the investigation indicates that Awaisa had been moved from the room where he had been imprisoned with other men. "Some 20 minutes later, the other detainees hear intense gunfire emanating from outside and inside the building," the B'Tselem report said. "The soldiers later informed them Awaisa had died." B'Tselem gathered accounts that allege soldiers threatened and swore at the men and "beat them severely." Also, the men received no "water and food" for 12 hours until they were released. "The detainees did not see the shooting of Awaisa. Therefore, it is impossible to assert with certainty who shot him and what were the exact circumstances of his death," the report said. "However, the fact that he was killed while in IDF custody and under IDF supervision is sufficient grounds to place the responsibility for his death squarely on Israel. "The violence inflicted by IDF soldiers against Awaisa and other detainees during their detention, forcibly removing him from the room prior to his death and his hands being tied strengthen the IDF's obligation to conduct an investigation into the circumstances of his death." Posted by Prime#

Amen Prime#

True Jesus saves, but is Israel really a 'complete' nation? They are not totally in control of the occupied territories, and Israel's size doesn't even compare to the land size spoken of in the old testament. Perhaps Israel must gain all this land before becoming the 'last generation' Israel you're speaking of? Just a suggestion. Prime#